£760 per month for energy!

[Veuvelily]

Dear God
It was £323.
There are 2 people living in this house

PV is presumably photo voltaic (solar) panels. With battery storage. I got a quote a year or so ago, it was £7k. Even with loads of batteries it was only estimated to provide 70% of my power in summer, less in winter. Must have masses of batteries and panels to only use 47p per week (still pay daily standing charge though).

Are your neighbours connecting to your power somehow ? 😂

Sorry PV = solar photovoltaic. Not affordable for everyone though it can be financed through a loan.

I twinned PV with a battery storage facility.

This works best with S/SW facing roof line.

Hope this helps.

@mumoftinyterrors wtf? Is there any comeback with the previous owners?

@ITSupport

For those questioning 680

22000 litre koi pond
10 man hot tub
Tumble drier on most day
And we never turn anything off

There is only two of us

But we also have a 4.4 litre Range Rover and a 3.0 litre merc so hey ho

So more money than sense then?

Jumping to the end of the thread because I'm about to get the kids up. There's a group on Facebook called Energy Support and Advice UK. It's very good with great advice.

Key things probably already been mentioned I expect. If you're on a fix now then the new variable rate will be more than 54% increase because its 54% on current variable rate. There really aren't any good fixes at present. Make sure you submit readings and they're not estimates.

Unless you're already very frugal with energy you can cut usage. I've joined the above group and cut my usage by 1/3 in a month by making a few simple changes. Hardly noticeable. I never thought I could cut my energy consumption.

Don't know how some people are meant survive, especially with next increase due October :(

Mine has just gone up to £100 pcm for a 3 bed semi with 1adult and 2 kids, how on earth do you use so much???

We've just received a letter predicting our combined gas and electricity bill will increase to £5600 a year from £3400 currently.
We are careful with useage but have recently moved into this house which has an aga running permanently on mains gas and an old gas fire. We currently have no other cooking facilities and we're planning on saving up to do the kitchen but we will have to rip the aga out now despite the kitchen having no heating.

[quote EdgeOfSeventeenAndThreeQuarter]@mumoftinyterrors wtf? Is there any comeback with the previous owners?[/quote]
Unfortunately not. There were obviously problems with the heat pump and the electric costs but he just failed to mention them 😡

Wibu to suggest an open fire and tossing the tosser in?

No, the bit you looked at was last year's bill I included as a comparison. It "literally" says now £466pm

And you have no idea what tariff you are on with the company you are with?

Surely that should be on any bill you are getting or on your online account?

Do you know what they think your predicted usage is?

Our bills are ridiculous but there's not much I can do as it's due to the age of the house (1910 2 bed terrace).

We have no wall insulation as there's no cavity. Loft is fully insulated but as I have read that you lose something like 30% of your heat through the walls that's a big drain.
Heating set to 18 for an hour in the morning and 2 hours at night, set to off the rest of the time. Nobody home most days.
There are 3 of us and I do 4 or 5 loads of washing a week (darks, colours, whites, towels, bedding)
We have a smart meter and use about £140 a month (combined) in winter and about £90 in summer. So paid £120 per month to average it over the year. This is set to double in April as we are now on the price cap.

Can't really cut back on any more energy usage aside from sitting in the dark and forcing my 9 year old to be freezing cold

Don't assume people with high bills for small houses are energy wasters, I do everything I can but I cannot change the fact there's no insulation in my walls! I have looked into internal and external cladding but internal wouldn't work as the rooms are already too small and external cost is too much at the moment.

@Bluebellbike

Martin Lewis has said that nobody should have their Direct Debit doubled as the price cap is only rising by 54%. He said that some energy companies may be increasing customer's direct debits by more than necessary to help their cash flow. So if anyone believes that their new quote is much too high for their usage they should not agree to such a high increase.

Is it possible to change to paying on receipt of a bill rather than paying monthly?

Martin Lewis did not say that because he understands how the pricing works

54% is a figure calculated for an imaginary typical household, unless you use exactly the same as that imagnary household your increase will reflect your own usage

If you come off a very good fix on 31 March and go straight onto the new variable cap it's perfectly possible that your costs could double

This whole energy crisis has highlighted how poor the general understanding of the cost works is

I pay by direct debit - and I pay on receipt of my bill.
So the rate is the same (it's the price cap) but when I get my bill, it's automatically paid out.

So I have to ensure that I have money put aside for the expensive months (channelling my inner Joseph)

If you come off a very good fix on 31 March and go straight onto the new variable cap it's perfectly possible that your costs could double

And if you come off a good fix on 31st September, then you could see more than doubling as the October price cap looks like it's going to be much higher than April

Sorry how is this real😭

We should all just cancel our direct debits and see what happens. They can't get us all at once!

@babywalker56

Sorry how is this real😭

We should all just cancel our direct debits and see what happens. They can't get us all at once!

They can

If you come off a very good fix on 31 March and go straight onto the new variable cap it's perfectly possible that your costs could double

Exactly. We were paying £94 pm, which was about right for our usage and based on a fix we took out in February 2021. Build in all the increases and by April I expect it to be around £200 pm for the same usage.

This whole energy crisis has highlighted how poor the general understanding of the cost works is

I know. I've seen endless threads on here where people seemed completely oblivious that the £60 pm they agreed to a year ago wasn't 'all you can eat' and now they're facing increases in April 2021, October 21 and April 22 so a more than 100% doubling in the unit cost, a standing charge that's also gone up a lot plus a three figure debt that they've built up so are surprised and upset that their energy company now want £300 pm off them because they've just signed up to a fix at 50% above the new price cap as they've missed months of Martin Lewis telling people not to fix without comparing unit rates because cheap fixes no longer exist and the least worst option now is to usually just roll over onto the price cap.

Plus it's also highlighted how many people have never thought about how much they use before and have been quite indulgent with their energy use and are now complaining that their bills will be hundreds of pounds a month.

@BarbaraofSeville

Plus it's also highlighted how many people have never thought about how much they use before and have been quite indulgent with their energy use and are now complaining that their bills will be hundreds of pounds a month.

Exactly, they are generally easy to spot by their shorts and T shirt inside in the depths of winter

@LabelMaker bollocks!

Demand a read out of your energy expenditure and then open an ofgen complaint if they don't. You're not using that much energy. I personally believe that the energy companies are going into cowboy mode right now trying to extract everything they can so everyone should watch their real usage like hawks and kick up a fuss the moment they see something isn't right. If you are only using one floor of heating OP then what they're changing you seems like genuine daylight robbery.

@cakeorwine

No, the bit you looked at was last year's bill I included as a comparison. It "literally" says now £466pm

And you have no idea what tariff you are on with the company you are with?

Surely that should be on any bill you are getting or on your online account?

Do you know what they think your predicted usage is?

Where did I say I have no idea what tariff I'm on? I know exactly what tariff I'm on. I've taken readings and submitted them. On my calculations (using the current tariff and meter readings) it should be c£200pm for both, the ombudsman also did a calculation and electric only came to just over £600pa on my old tariff (they don't have details of the new one but it's c50% more which the ombudsman said would add £28pm to my bill - they only looked at electric).

My point is that, despite all this Eon still set the DD at £466 pm, they refuse to reduce it saying they have a duty to stop me getting into debt (so patronising, I've never been in debt in my life!) and that my calculations (and presumably the ombudsman) are wrong and theirs are right.

The "predicted usage" on the bill is a £ figure, not a kw figure, so that's useless, plus I've not had a bill since Dec and they changed to this DD at the end of Feb.

And no, there is no way to switch suppliers currently. I looked at four a couple of days ago, three refuse to quote and BG tariffs were higher than my current ones.

I'm not sure what point YOU'RE trying to make?

Mine has gone up from £140 a month to £287. One bedroom flat - just me. Octopus.