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AIBU to be hacked off that a colleague inadvertently shared my salary with whole team

123 replies

YorkshireTrailRunner · 20/03/2022 14:38

A Return on Investment report regarding my role and impact, a request to every member of the Core Team by an external stakeholder colleague, has been shared throughout the whole team (22 people) as an example of good practise. However, in doing so, my salary has also been shared. Am I being unreasonable to be a bit hacked off, or am I being precious?

OP posts:
donquixotedelamancha · 20/03/2022 18:53

If your username is an accurate description then we come from similar backgrounds and if you carry this unfounded, preconceived, mis-informed judgementalism into your job then you are a disgrace to your profession and I fear for the establishments you enter. Moreover, Margaret Atwood's dystopian portrayal would welcome such a high-handed view as yours, 'Offred'

Were you originally a Drama teacher, OP?

YorkshireTrailRunner · 20/03/2022 18:57
Grin
OP posts:
OfstedOffred · 20/03/2022 19:00

If your username is an accurate description then we come from similar backgrounds and if you carry this unfounded, preconceived, mis-informed judgementalism into your job then you are a disgrace to your profession and I fear for the establishments you enter. Moreover, Margaret Atwood's dystopian portrayal would welcome such a high-handed view as yours, 'Offred'

Hit a nerve, did I?

Salary secrecy is one of the biggest drivers of gender and ethnicity pay gaps. It's a problem that needs to be challenged.

Ginandtonicbiatch · 20/03/2022 19:04

Well, I'm a public servant of x amount of years and anyone can just look mine up online but I'm not bothered.

LittleWins · 20/03/2022 19:08

I’d be hacked off too. My salary is no one else’s business apart from the higher ups.

Pawtriarchal · 20/03/2022 19:31

@tinierclanger

I guess you’ve got a right to complain under the circumstances but it’s really bad practice for salaries to be confidential.
In that case they can rectify it by revealing everyone else’s then. If not, then why not?
Pawtriarchal · 20/03/2022 19:32

@OfstedOffred

If your username is an accurate description then we come from similar backgrounds and if you carry this unfounded, preconceived, mis-informed judgementalism into your job then you are a disgrace to your profession and I fear for the establishments you enter. Moreover, Margaret Atwood's dystopian portrayal would welcome such a high-handed view as yours, 'Offred'

Hit a nerve, did I?

Salary secrecy is one of the biggest drivers of gender and ethnicity pay gaps. It's a problem that needs to be challenged.

Yes. But not just one women’s salary when everyone else’s is confidential. Clearly.
Pawtriarchal · 20/03/2022 19:33

@Ginandtonicbiatch

Well, I'm a public servant of x amount of years and anyone can just look mine up online but I'm not bothered.
That’s great but entirely unrelated to the OP’s situation. If your salary only was sent to everybody’s email address proactively, but no one else’s salary details were, then it would be relevant.
OfstedOffred · 20/03/2022 19:39

Yes. But not just one women’s salary when everyone else’s is confidential. Clearly.

Fair enough, they should publish all of them.

Honestly though - I will happily share mine even if a colleague doesnt want to share back. I'm highly paid, and I've seen over the years that organisations use our ingrained salary secrecy culture to underpay many, many staff but predominantly women, ethnic minorities and those from less privileged backgrounds. As a higher paid member of my team I feel strongly that I have a duty to share that with others to ensure they have a fair balance of information when negotiating their own pay with our employer.

YorkshireTrailRunner · 20/03/2022 20:00

My nerves and your effect on them are fine, thanks. You are continuing to glibly post without registering that you haven't absorbed one of the fundamental points of my original posts - that ALL members were asked to submit this by the external stakeholder and mine was so transparent and exemplary that it was shared as an example of good practise. Everyone else on this thread had an opinion that I respect but you made it personal without having the courtesy of reading the whole post, yet have the affrontery to align yourself with a school's inspectorate. With the greatest respect for whatever drove you here - grow up.

OP posts:
OfstedOffred · 20/03/2022 20:35

You are on AIBU.

I read the OP. I made a speculatory response that wasnt terribly personal in nature. I understand that your file was good practise but do not understand your rationale in wanting to conceal your salary from colleagues, unless you know its noticeably higher and you don't feel able to justify that, or feel your colleagues might disagree with such justification. I'm inviting you to consider putting yourself in their shoes.

My mn name is an old joke. I have nothing to do with Ofsted, much as many people on here have usernames relating to celebrities, brands, all sorts.

OfstedOffred · 20/03/2022 20:37

I mean surely you do acknowledge that salary secrecy drives unfair wage gaps? Or do you deny that?

opensun · 20/03/2022 20:38

Wouldn't bother me because everyone where I work is on a salary system where we're all paid the same based on our roles and grades so you can work out what everyone earns.

mrsmolks · 20/03/2022 20:38

Wouldn't bother me but thenI have never understood why people are so secretive about salaries

OfstedOffred · 20/03/2022 20:49

I really don't get why people make this excuse that knowing some colleagues earn more will "drive resentment" etc. Of course it doesnt. Many people in my organisation earn more than me. The pay differential is usually easily and objectively justified by reference to their experience, qualifications, skills, responsibility, market levels for those, or simply the outcomes they deliver. Some years ago pay was more secretive and through the nature of my role I came across several instances where pay differentials were not justifiable. It was very damaging to the teams those people worked in - in some instances because their colleagues were very clearly being exploited on low pay, in one instance where a guy was extremely overpaid. That one was quite dodgy, not only on the pay front, and his employment at the organisation didnt last due to how it came about.

aylis · 20/03/2022 21:00

It doesn’t really matter what anyone thinks ~should~ be the case about salaries, this affects the OP and only the OP. She’s right to be annoyed.

PegasusReturns · 20/03/2022 21:08

I mean surely you do acknowledge that salary secrecy drives unfair wage gaps? Or do you deny that?

It’s possible to acknowledge that whilst being I apply that your wage was the only one shared.

PegasusReturns · 20/03/2022 21:09

Whilst being annoyed

YorkshireTrailRunner · 20/03/2022 21:13

@OfstedOffred

You are on AIBU.

I read the OP. I made a speculatory response that wasnt terribly personal in nature. I understand that your file was good practise but do not understand your rationale in wanting to conceal your salary from colleagues, unless you know its noticeably higher and you don't feel able to justify that, or feel your colleagues might disagree with such justification. I'm inviting you to consider putting yourself in their shoes.

My mn name is an old joke. I have nothing to do with Ofsted, much as many people on here have usernames relating to celebrities, brands, all sorts.

sigh I'm sorry that you fail to grasp the fundamental basics of the post, but that you admit your username is a 'joke' about safeguarding children's education and women's rights speaks volumes. We're clearly at odds and I thank you for a stimulating exchange and wish you a pleasant rest of the evening.
OP posts:
OfstedOffred · 20/03/2022 21:18

Oh my goodness OP are you new? You had better not look at some of the usernames on here if mine bothers you this much. Goodnight.

OfstedOffred · 20/03/2022 21:20

Oh and I fully understood your post. However I disagreed with your position, something which is very much allowed on

Am I Being Unreasonable

In my opinion (I'm allowed one on here, you see, and encouraged to voice it) I think yes, YABU.

lljkk · 20/03/2022 21:23

Does the report say that OP was good value for money?

If you're bothered than negotiate a rise, so then the info in the report will be out of date anyway. Problem Solved ?

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 20/03/2022 22:30

@camdenish

If earnings are kept secret, how can people know they are paid fairly?
My thoughts exactly!
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