To think sentences for child abuse and indecent images are too lenient? (TW)

[WorldGoneWrong]

I saw this article (link below) today and it isn't the first sentence I really can't get my head around of this kind. Seems it's a mere slap on the wrist kind of sentence and you're out before you know it to do it again.

Why does this keep happening in society? What can we do to get these kinds of sentences increased?

www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/crime/ipswich-paedophile-edmund-hall-jailed-8764828

Sometimes it feels like that's the way it is, normalising this behaviour.

It seems the criminal system doesn't care about women and children at all.

To be honest the sentences for most crimes are too short. A "life sentence" is about 15 years

@DockOTheBay

To be honest the sentences for most crimes are too short. A "life sentence" is about 15 years

Not necessarily. A life sentence really means life licence, so once you have served the set time in jail and have convinced the Parole Board you are safe to be released, you can be recalled to prison at any time and for any reason, for the rest of your life.

The prison element can be anything from 6 years (honestly) to 40 years. The starting point for murder is 25 years.

Thank goodness at least some sentences aren't so lenient.

Any idea why these types are?

Because if they locked up everyone who got arrested for it we’d have to build more and more prisons. NCA reckons anywhere between 550,000 and 850,000 people in the UK pose varying forms of sexual risk to children. People need to start getting their heads around these numbers and start working to prevent it before it happens rather than waiting for the police to arrest. Police are on the very very top of the iceberg.

What can we as citizens do to prevent it? I mean, I can try to keep my daughter away from known paedophiles, but surely that's the extent.

To be honest, this is one of the more serious sentences I've seen for indecent images. Through my job I work with a lot of newly convicted paedophiles - mainly convicted for downloading images. People with thousands of images often usually get off with just a community sentence. I've seen many many complete their community 'sentence' and they are just as risky as they were before and haven't changed a bit.

I really don't know why carrying a knife can get you 10years or more in prison, but downloading images of thousands of children being abused just gets a community sentence.

Crazy.

Def need more but sentences have increased.
I Have personal experience with this. He got 9 months served 6 if that. On register. Remarried had further 3 kids ss aware and playing happy families works for self and earns plenty and doesn’t pay for the children who’s lives re ruined by wrecking a family and going to jail etc really massive scumbag. The police described it as victimless because they are looking not doing, however the kids who were being abused to take these pics are the victims but the thinking has changed in the last few years. Just disgusts me that it’s been swept under the carpet and his family paid his bills & it’s like he’s done nothing wrong.

www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/possession-of-indecent-photograph-of-child/

Here are the sentencing guidelines for possession of child abuse images. Remember that judges can only follow the guidelines, they don't have free reign to do as they wish.

@WorldGoneWrong

Sometimes it feels like that's the way it is, normalising this behaviour.

It seems the criminal system doesn't care about women and children at all.

That's because it doesn't care.

@LizDoingTheCanCan

www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/possession-of-indecent-photograph-of-child/

Here are the sentencing guidelines for possession of child abuse images. Remember that judges can only follow the guidelines, they don't have free reign to do as they wish.

Really sickened to read that actually. 5 years cannot be an acceptable maximum amount of time for these crimes? They have victims being impacted directly by their actions. If no one looked at or distributed them, then surely there would be way less victims.

The fact that this disgusting excuse for a human distributed images and has had the worst category of images, plus tried to teach others how to hide it, then I'm glad it was the maximum punishment. When you read what the images contain and the age it related to, I feel sick

NCA reckons anywhere between 550,000 and 850,000 people in the UK pose varying forms of sexual risk to children.

MaderiaCycle - I'm not sure what the fuck is wrong with people in the UK if that's accurate. How do you prevent it if people are hiding in plain sight?

I think we need different ways to deal with sexual offenders.

So many people involved with working with sex offenders seem to think rehabilitation just doesn’t work. This isn’t this guy’s first offence and he’s already on an indefinite sexual harm prevention order (maybe how they caught him this time) so 51/2 years doesn’t seem like it can protect the public enough.

But there are tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of sex offenders. Locking them up for life to prevent harm is totally unsustainable.

I not sure what the answer is, though.

Can they even be rehabilitated and do they even want to be?