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Child maintenance

9 replies

Kelsam1 · 14/03/2022 10:48

Am I being unreasonable asking for a review, the paying parent earns £14000.00 per month and is only eligible to pay £101 in child support as he gets his wages paid from an non EU country therefore isn’t declared to HMRC. The CSA are saying his wages are low and the payment is actually £0

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millymolls · 14/03/2022 11:53

Earns £1400 pr month or £14,000 per month ??

Quitelikeit · 14/03/2022 11:55

If he’s not in the U.K. then I’m not sure the CM can enforce anything

However if he earns 14k per month I’d move to his jurisdiction just to annoy him and get the maintenance or at least threaten to!!

Kelsam1 · 14/03/2022 12:14

£14,000 per month, he works in Offshore but lives in the UK

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TyrannysaurusXXrightshoarder · 14/03/2022 12:21

So he only lives in the uk for 182 days a year? Because if it’s more, how is he not paying income tax to hmrc?

Iwonder08 · 14/03/2022 12:51

OP, how do you know exactly how much he earns? If he lives in UK (over 182 days) then he should pay income tax. Something doesn't add up in your post

Kelsam1 · 14/03/2022 13:47

Yes you’re right!! Something doesn’t add up

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Freehugs · 14/03/2022 14:19

What facts do you have?

Such as do you know how frequently he’s in the UK?

Do you know where the company he works for is based? (Also worth a look on LinkedIn)

Is he maybe self employed?

Does he have a lot of assets here such as property/cars? Does he rent any property?

My dh works offshore, he’s out the country more than 190 days. He pays someone to sort it all out though. He always ensures he has evidence such as boarding passes, seaman’s book etc.

Have you spoken directly to him to discuss a better private arrangement and your concerns around something not “adding up”. Perhaps a subtle mention of the implications of you asking csa for a variation based on suspicion of undeclared income and hmrc conducting an investigation may encourage him to pay for his child.

It’s definitely common offshore workers thinking they can ignore the tax rules - but there’s huge consequences when caught.

So he’s either lying and is unemployed, he is in fact working abroad but less than the 183 days and not declaring it, or he is in fact working abroad over the threshold and therefore not liable for income tax.

If he is classed as working abroad maybe this might be worth while looking into -

www.gov.uk/government/publications/countries-where-you-can-enforce-child-maintenance-decisions

TyrannysaurusXXrightshoarder · 14/03/2022 14:35

@Kelsam1

Yes you’re right!! Something doesn’t add up
And it’s not just 182 days - it’s more complicated than that. Average days over two tax years, days spent working, family ties etc etc.

So where does he work? Where does he live? How long does he spend in each place?

TyrannysaurusXXrightshoarder · 14/03/2022 14:36

And which country is paid in and from? And does he pay tax there?

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