To not understand why people correct spelling

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Just reading a thread on here and someone felt the need to correct the spelling of another then put sorry in brackets. They aren't sorry or they just wouldn't have done it. I'm super dyslexic and spell stuff wrong all the time but why do people need to correct it. If you are a spelling corrector would you tell me why you do it?? Thanks

@BluebellsGreenbells

Would anyone on this thread ask someone using crutches to "speed up" because they are slowing the able person down? Or tell a blind person "you just need to try harder at seeing" dyslexia IS a disability under the equality act. It's is real

I agree, however a lot of people claim ‘dyslexia’ when in fact it maybe something else. Not all dyslexics are bad at spelling, nor are they unable to read. Some people just can’t be bothered.

Who are these people who "claim" dyslexia though? Is that not true of any medical condition or disability?

I'm not going to tattoo "I have dyslexia" on my forehead. Nor am I going to show my diagnostic reports to anyone who asks. I'm not ashamed of my dyslexia and happy to talk about it in real life but not everyone is.

So how do YOU know if an individual is "claiming to be dyslexic" or genuinely dyslexic?

You are right, dyslexia is a disability that has been diagnosed, by a professional.

But how many people claim depression and can not work? I know a few with this line and get sick notes to avoid being in work and sit at home fully paid. Full recovery and then back on the sick - it spoils it for the genuinely I’ll people who need medical intervention and rest.

Same with dyslexia, having dyslexia and claiming to be dyslexic and totally different things.

It’s also a very misunderstood conditions. Reading a writing aren’t the only signs of dyslexia.

I don't feel superior, I don't enjoy putting people down but yes people do judge your intellect if you can't spell properly. It DOES matter and I like to be corrected myself.

What I struggle with is the sheer laziness to NOT BOTHER to find out what the correct spelling is, and for threads like this that sneer at those of us that do correct people instead of saying thanks for letting me know.

I want to be told, I want to look like I am intelligent and appreciate being corrected. I would hope other people would want to improve themselves too.

The classic Lose/Loose - sheer and utter laziness. The amount of people I have "corrected" who say "oh yes I always struggle with that word" and I think well bloody well look it up then, it takes literally less than a second to google....

@BluebellsGreenbells but unless the individual says "I'm claiming to be this when I'm not" you don't know.

Again no one with a mental health illness is going to come into work and tell everyone what's going on in their life - however they will tell a GP who will make the decision to sign them off.

I have no problem with spelling errors here, but shelf fronts in supermarkets or promotional flyers really wind me up if there are errors. Does no one proof read these things. I am that person who would go round taking shelf fronts off if there were spelling errors. Not now, shop on line

but yes people do judge your intellect if you can't spell properly

Well they are very ignorant then, aren't they? It is possible to be very intelligent but poor at spelling.

What I struggle with is the sheer laziness to NOT BOTHER to find out what the correct spelling is

So a person with really poor spelling and grammar (perhaps due to poor schooling, lower than average intelligence or other disadvantages), should check every word they post on a bloody chat forum so as not to be thought lazy? Ffs.

Lots of people find it hard to retain spellings, even when they have been pointed out numerous times. And they want to be able to enjoy participating in online chat without constantly looking things up or worrying about judgmental arses sneering at them. I find it hard to believe that anyone who thinks themselves worthy to judge others for their intelligence would find that difficult to grasp.

@BluebellsGreenbells

You are right, dyslexia is a disability that has been diagnosed, by a professional.

But how many people claim depression and can not work? I know a few with this line and get sick notes to avoid being in work and sit at home fully paid. Full recovery and then back on the sick - it spoils it for the genuinely I’ll people who need medical intervention and rest.

Same with dyslexia, having dyslexia and claiming to be dyslexic and totally different things.

It’s also a very misunderstood conditions. Reading a writing aren’t the only signs of dyslexia.

I have dyslexia I went to a special needs school. There was no gcses taken or anything like that. I know I have another learning disability. I don't know what it's called though. All I know is when I was 8 ish I was told i was going to a special school and a bus would pick me up from home and drop me home again after school. All the words I use are quite basic. I don't use or understand hard to pronounce words. There are words on this thread that I don't use some of them I could look up. But then it won't stay in my mind . Things don't sink in. Its very hard to explain as I don't fully understand myself .

@Loubilou09

I don't feel superior, I don't enjoy putting people down but yes people do judge your intellect if you can't spell properly. It DOES matter and I like to be corrected myself.

What I struggle with is the sheer laziness to NOT BOTHER to find out what the correct spelling is, and for threads like this that sneer at those of us that do correct people instead of saying thanks for letting me know.

I want to be told, I want to look like I am intelligent and appreciate being corrected. I would hope other people would want to improve themselves too.

The classic Lose/Loose - sheer and utter laziness. The amount of people I have "corrected" who say "oh yes I always struggle with that word" and I think well bloody well look it up then, it takes literally less than a second to google....

It doesn't take a second though to completely change muscle memory and for the brain to replace previous information and associations. Took me ages to get the correct spelling of exercise without thinking about it first.

The classic Lose/Loose - sheer and utter laziness. The amount of people I have "corrected" who say "oh yes I always struggle with that word" and I think well bloody well look it up then, it takes literally less than a second to google....

Those kinds of errors are easy to understand and why bothering to Google for a daft chat forum.
Who really cares if it's wrong?

@Dinoteeth

The classic Lose/Loose - sheer and utter laziness. The amount of people I have "corrected" who say "oh yes I always struggle with that word" and I think well bloody well look it up then, it takes literally less than a second to google....

Those kinds of errors are easy to understand and why bothering to Google for a daft chat forum.
Who really cares if it's wrong?

I care, lot's of people care. It's incorrect, it looks wrong and it makes you look less intelligent.

I care, lot's of people care. It's incorrect, it looks wrong and it makes you look less intelligent.

Some people are less intelligent. Others have other reasons why they aren't great at spelling. Why is that your problem? How does it impact you if a stranger 'makes themselves look less intelligent'? Less intelligent than what/whom, anyway? You?

@Loubilou09 that's the second time you mentioned LOOKING intelligent. So this is just basic snobbery,all about optics and image?

Just because you(and others) assume someone is less intelligent because of their spelling, that's your failure not theirs.

Just because you(and others) find your worth and value in what others think, while other people don't, that's your failure not theirs.

@WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll

Are we assuming that all bad spelling is the result of dyslexia, though? None of the many spelling errors we see all the time are made by anybody without dyslexia? Obviously, there will be typos and stupid autocorrects, but IF it wasn't done by mistake/because of dyslexia and comes from a point of ignorance, would you not want to learn? How is it particularly different from any other error, really?

Just supposing I were to go off on a rant about the USA's reaction to Russia's actions and demand that Trump should put his foot down and start acting like a real leader, I would want people to point out that one particular area of my knowledge that's clearly not correct - better to be embarrassed briefly than allowed to continue indefinitely, IF it were something that I could easily learn and remember.

It's great to be kind and nobody likes a bully, but if we get to a point where people never feel able to gently point something out, everybody else sees the incorrect version and many will subconsciously absorb it as if it must/might be correct. The end result is all of the 'should ofs' and the like becoming de facto accepted as 'correct'.

Whatever the reasons behind it, if a post is full of spelling errors - maybe grammar and punctuation errors too, as well as one massive unseparated paragraph, I will often find it just too incoherent to understand and have to give up. I'm not claiming that the odd error/typo will render it thus, but would people really not want to know that, having posted something and earnestly awaiting responses and engagement, they aren't likely to get anything - not because nobody likes them or is interested in the subject, but because they've just communicated in such a way that they effectively haven't really posted at all?

Again, this.

care, lot's of people care. It's incorrect, it looks wrong and it makes you look less intelligent.

I mean if anyones looking less intelligent right now it's almost certainly not the people making spelling mistakes...

I agree @KittyWithStripes .

It's great to be kind and nobody likes a bully, but if we get to a point where people never feel able to gently point something out, everybody else sees the incorrect version and many will subconsciously absorb it as if it must/might be correct. The end result is all of the 'should ofs' and the like becoming de facto accepted as 'correct'.

Sorry but that's just silly. Keyboard pedants picking on random, isolated errors in the tiny corner of the internet which they happen to frequent will not do anything to reduce this. Imagine the numbers of spelling and grammar mistakes made every day online all over the English-speaking web. Pointing out errors (whether 'gently' - i.e. patronisingly - or snarkily) will do nothing to stop people constantly seeing the wrong version.

You cannot make people's English better. You cannot correct the internet. You are not helping, you're just pissing people off for no purpose.

I care, lot's of people care. It's incorrect, it looks wrong and it makes you look less intelligent.

If you care so much @Loubilou09, then you will be positively ecstatic when I point out your unnecessary (and COMPLETELY WRONG) apostrophe in lot's. You're welcome

Bold fail on the quote. But you get my drift.

My knowledge of spelling and grammar is pretty good. Somewhere between thinking and typing I often make a bit of a mess, though, and though I do proof-read my posts I usually can't see the mistakes in something I've just written, even if I re-read it six times.

I have strategies to deal with this at work. Life's to short to use those on random posts on an internet forum, though - I'd never post at all.

@BluebellsGreenbells

But how many people claim depression and can not work? I know a few with this line and get sick notes to avoid being in work and sit at home fully paid

Those sick notes are signed by GPs. If you know that this is happening - have you reported this to the police?

If you care so much@Loubilou09, then you will be positively ecstatic when I point out your unnecessary (and COMPLETELY WRONG) apostrophe inlot's. You're welcome.

Dammit - how on earth did I miss that?! The one time it's ok to correct a poster's language is when they are the one playing the pedant!

Drives me nuts. There is also a colleague at work who likes to flag everyone's mistakes it's so rude and unnecessary. She goes straight to the manager and in team meetings highlights it.

Thing is her work is not always perfect but none of us start on her!

Because they're narrow minded people who like having a way to put others down - which is pathetic

There's a time and a place. I'm a lit grad I'm pretty good at spag but my typing these days needs work and my eyesight is worsening

I also have friends who are dyslexic, dyscalculic, English isn't their 1st or even 2nd or 3rd language!

On here and other sm especially it's a dick move cos people are often typing "on the hop" and not necessarily checking it all.

There's a pedants corner on here for discussing such things which can be fun but otherwise - yea dick move!

With the exception of where it's really hard to understand what the poster is trying to say but it's possible to ask for clarification on a post or just "scroll on by"

As I said my spag is good when I can express it my maths is shit and I can't draw or paint to save my life!

Everyone has different skills and abilities

@Loubilou09

I don't feel superior, I don't enjoy putting people down but yes people do judge your intellect if you can't spell properly. It DOES matter and I like to be corrected myself.

What I struggle with is the sheer laziness to NOT BOTHER to find out what the correct spelling is, and for threads like this that sneer at those of us that do correct people instead of saying thanks for letting me know.

I want to be told, I want to look like I am intelligent and appreciate being corrected. I would hope other people would want to improve themselves too.

The classic Lose/Loose - sheer and utter laziness. The amount of people I have "corrected" who say "oh yes I always struggle with that word" and I think well bloody well look it up then, it takes literally less than a second to google....

What's that random "for" doing? We usually say "number" of people, not "amount". That's generally used for uncountable nouns though lazy People have started using it with countables.

You also appear to have lost your comma key.

@Fairislefandango

If you care so much*@Loubilou09, then you will be positively ecstatic when I point out your unnecessary (and COMPLETELY WRONG) apostrophe inlot's. You're welcome.*

Dammit - how on earth did I miss that?! The one time it's ok to correct a poster's language is when they are the one playing the pedant!

It's too funny, isn't it. @Loubilou09, while you're looking up some basic grammar and SPaG rules (because you need them more than anyone on this thread so far) - do a quick search for Dunning-Kruger at the same time. Educate yourself. Because, I'm sure you'd agree, to not do so would be lazy.