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Vet practice and masks - aibu?

118 replies

WeirdlyKind · 11/03/2022 12:10

Just driven my mum to the vets with her dog for a routine injection.

She has copd and lung damage from Covid which means only one lung works. This means she gets breathless very easily and masks make it worse. She does regular LF tests and we both had a negative one this morning.

The receptionist in the vets was very snotty with her, refused to accept she had a genuine medical exemption and told her she either had to wear a mask or stay outside. They also insisted it is still a legal requirement.

Mum decided to go outside which meant I had to take the dog in for the appointment and couldn't answer a couple of questions because I didn't know.

It just felt like a horrible, stressful experience for no reason.

Aibu?

OP posts:
Spud1130 · 12/03/2022 08:34

@Whyisitsodifficult

Vets, dentists, doctors all the same, still insisting on mask wearing. Why should they be able to insist on it when hairdressers, shops, cafes etc don’t? It’s nonsense now and needs to stop!
I know which of those two groups I'd rather trust with health care advice and infection control measures....
Wizzbangfizz · 12/03/2022 09:37

When I'm paying handsomely for a service I do expect a level of customer service above being told that I can't be with my pet without having a full biohazard suit on and being prevented from entering the building. I have switched vets during the pandemic after an incident with our pets medication which I'm pretty sure was down to the ridiculous policies they were obsessed with enforcing!

PrivateHall · 12/03/2022 10:58

@Whyisitsodifficult

Vets, dentists, doctors all the same, still insisting on mask wearing. Why should they be able to insist on it when hairdressers, shops, cafes etc don’t? It’s nonsense now and needs to stop!
Maybe for the same reason that vets, doctors and dentists worked throughout the pandemic whereas everything else shut down? Maybe these essential service providers want to keep on running with as little interruption as possible from sickness absence?

I am a HCP and care for people with covid everyday, do you really want me to come to your home with no mask on to care for you and your new baby? After I have just been in a house full of covid, with no mask on?

What a stupid post.

Vets: Sorry you are getting such abuse on here, I for one am very grateful to you all because my gorgeous wee pets need you!

OnTheBoardwalk · 12/03/2022 11:10

Twice in the last 2 years I’ve had to take my cat to the animal hospital (it’s part of my larger vet practice)

1st time was pick up and drop off in car park and telephone consultation, 2nd I was allowed in wearing a mask. The vet collected the cat from inside, did initial consultation but still did the main consultation over the phone even though we were in the same building.

When I asked why she said that being an animal hospital with 24 hour care they simply couldn’t cope with key members of staff being off and would have to shut the doors which obviously they didn’t want to do

ilovesooty · 12/03/2022 16:31

@Wizzbangfizz

When I'm paying handsomely for a service I do expect a level of customer service above being told that I can't be with my pet without having a full biohazard suit on and being prevented from entering the building. I have switched vets during the pandemic after an incident with our pets medication which I'm pretty sure was down to the ridiculous policies they were obsessed with enforcing!
I'm sure no vets have ever insisted on a full biohazard suit. Typically ridiculous hyperbole.
Walserwasstrange · 12/03/2022 17:16

The pandemic isn’t over just because you want it to be over, vulnerable people are still vulnerable, and vets like opticians, dentists etc are people they sometimes need to see, so I think it’s great that so many practices are still operating with a degree of sense in terms of public health measures. Cases are now rising rapidly again, and recent studies have linked this rise to the government’s abandonment of measures to cut down infection rates i.e., masks, distancing etc My parents are vulnerable but have a dog with arthritis who has regular injections. Their vet comes outside in a mask takes their dog inside and then comes outside to discuss any issues or talks over the phone while checking the dog. They are very reassured by this.

In addition, as others have mentioned, there’s a national shortage of vets and veterinary nurses, made worse by Brexit and many European vets and nurses leaving. And stretched even further because of the recent massive increase of people with domestic pets, particularly dogs. So strict infection control measures also ensure that practices are not forced to stop offering services because of high sickness levels. In my vet practice there’s also a vet, and at least one nurse, in the early stages of pregnancy. They are vulnerable and at risk of complications if infected, so these measures make it safer for them to continue working. I’m hugely appreciative that vets like other medical professionals are continuing to be sensible rather than base their policies on wishful thinking or the need to get people through the door. And as other posters have said who’s more likely to be aware of how to operate in a health-centred environment doctors, dentists, vets etc Or, a hairdresser!

I appreciate my vet and my parents’ vets’ continuing care and professionalism. They’ve been amazing during this whole pandemic, including dealing with a major health issue for my parents’ dog, who had to be hospitalised during one of the worst periods of the pandemic, and making sure that my parents could visit and spend time with him safely.

As for your mother OP, someone who’s been left with major health issues after Covid should be trying to limit the spread of Covid to other people and to work out a way to communicate with their vet that doesn’t mean exposing them, their colleagues or other clients to infection. Not to mention the animals who are in danger of contracting the virus too. In addition, your mother is at risk of reinfection, there are documented cases of people catching current strains repeatedly, so she should be limiting her exposure, with her lung issues she’s at extremely high risk of future major problems.

And what you could have done in the consult was put your phone on speaker phone so your mother could hear and then she could have answered the questions. But it seems you’d rather risk her health and others than use a bit of common sense!

WeirdlyKind · 12/03/2022 17:34

I'll be honest and say I haven't read all of the replies yet but want to clear up a few things.

  • she wore a mask right through the pandemic until Oct when she caught Covid and spent right until Christmas in hospital. She'd like to keep wearing one but it physically isn't possible for her. No, she can't manage "five minutes" and her medical team have told her not to try.

-I couldn't ring her because I was dealing with a dog who dislikes the vets and inections and had my hands full.

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WeirdlyKind · 12/03/2022 17:36

Also, the vets don't offer any services outside - the animal has to be taken into one of the consulting rooms.

And how are we risking anyone, when we both have recurrent negative LF tests?

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purpleme12 · 12/03/2022 18:24

The vet could ring her though
That's what vets normally do when they don't let the owner into the practice

shabbalabba · 12/03/2022 18:31

My workplace still has us wearing masks (not a vets!) businesses can make their own rules!

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 12/03/2022 18:33

The whole mask and phone situation has been a pain. While I understand the reasons (although I will never agree that putting an animal to sleep in the boot of a car or without their owner present it acceptable) it doesn't help people like DH who are partially deaf. Every time our cat has been to the vet during the pandemic, 8 or 10 times, I've had to take time off work to go as DH can't hear the vet through a mask. He used to take him with no problems but now there's no point as there doesn't seem to be any provisions for people who struggle to hear.

WeirdlyKind · 12/03/2022 18:35

@purpleme12

The vet could ring her though That's what vets normally do when they don't let the owner into the practice
They don't phone owners. No zoom, no calls. Just one person taking the animal into the room.
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Yants · 12/03/2022 18:40

Our vets still won't let anyone in even WITH a mask, pets are handed over to them outside.

purpleme12 · 12/03/2022 18:40

Well if you've actually asked the vet to phone the owner as she knows the answers or do a zoom call while they're there, then I would actually complain if they truly don't do that.
I'm not sure if this has been asked for and refused outright or not, from the post.

Ownedbymycats · 12/03/2022 19:30

Presumably it was safer for you to go in with the dog rather than your mother anyway. Covid rates are really high at present so this wouldn't concern me.

Whyisitsodifficult · 12/03/2022 22:11

@PrivateHall well I’m fairly certain shops were open during the pandemic otherwise we would have been screwed! I’m sure the rest of aforementioned businesses would have liked to remain open if allowed! Essential service providers are a wide sector and they are not all insisting on mask wearing.
In case you hadn’t noticed all COVID restrictions have stopped. I for one don’t think that a vets or a dentist is at any further risk than a hairdresser or teacher. If an individual chooses to continue mask wearing then so be it but to insist on others to do so is nonsensical!

Floralnomad · 14/03/2022 10:09

Surely the point is we are now at the ‘living with it ‘ stage for Covid , in the same way that we live with flu so if they are not letting you in / making you wear masks now when is that ever going to stop as there are no more rules to change - this is it .

ifonly4 · 14/03/2022 10:41

Businesses can make their own rules. A small vets practice can't afford the risk of covid spreading amongst their staff.

I do feel for your Mum though, but up until recently we've had to drop our cats off at the door. There is a message on the door now saying masks are required on entry and only one person with pet. Sadly, this is going to continue.

On the other hand, your Mum sounds like she's vulnerable, so probably better she doesn't put herself at risk.

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