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Another payrise....

65 replies

DamnUserName21 · 01/03/2022 18:20

I can appreciate it's independently set and in line with other public sector workers (apparently!) but what the heck?!

news.sky.com/story/mps-to-get-2-200-pay-rise-from-april-after-boris-johnson-urged-restraint-12554941

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DamnUserName21 · 01/03/2022 19:26

@Rosebell75

Social housing and 4% rise here.

The increase isn’t set by MPs, it’s an independent body and Boris Johnson has said he disagrees (as did Keir Starmer). The only pay they potentially influence is ministers pay and that’s been frozen.

Yes, it's in the article. MP's pay hasn't been frozen though and not likely to be.
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Arsewangry · 01/03/2022 19:27

I work for a government department - one of the largest, and our pay was frozen. So I hope they choke on their pay rises.

Crankley · 01/03/2022 19:28

MP's salary increases are decided by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) not MPs themselves. It is an entirely separate body.

TempName01 · 01/03/2022 19:30

Percentage increases are so unfair on lower earners as well, virtually nothing whereas the high earners it will be a few K.

Rosebell75 · 01/03/2022 19:32

Damnuser. You missed my point. Posters are directing their anger at MPs over a pay rise that’s not set by them and has been criticised by both leaders.

Bells3032 · 01/03/2022 19:33

In line with other public sector. Haha 12 years in the civil service....no pay rise this year. We've had one year of 2%, about 4 years of 1% rises and the others have all been pay freezes whilst mps have got pay rises of 8% plus.

In this time they should be getting 0% pay rises in line with the civil service

DamnUserName21 · 01/03/2022 19:34

@Crankley

MP's salary increases are decided by the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority (IPSA) not MPs themselves. It is an entirely separate body.
No shit! Doesn't mean its morally right or appropriate given stagnant salaries elsewhere and other frozen public pay (as stated above). Folks are having their fuel bills double but MPs get an extra 2,200 per year salary plus expenses covered.
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Rosebell75 · 01/03/2022 19:36

Agree that %s can be unfair…however you could argue that also applies to % tax rates too.

Having said that there are things organizations can do to improve pay equality. Flat rate bonus, pegging highest pay to lowest with a fixed multiple etc etc.

DamnUserName21 · 01/03/2022 19:37

@Rosebell75

Damnuser. You missed my point. Posters are directing their anger at MPs over a pay rise that’s not set by them and has been criticised by both leaders.
I got your point. I, like others, can read who sets the pay for MPs. MPs pay can be frozen but hasn't been (this year) unlike other sectors. Posters are entitled to the pissed off with MPs en mass or the system.
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Rosebell75 · 01/03/2022 19:38

Damnuser. Absolutely entitled to be pissed off but it’s a pointless exercise when it’s directed at the wrong people.

Lancrelady80 · 01/03/2022 19:39

No pay rise here. Again. Teachers have been screwed over with pay for basically the last 13 years, give or take one or two small (less than inflation) rises.

Source: IFS
"In summary, there have been large real-terms falls in teacher pay over the last decade and more, particularly for more experienced teachers. In 2021, teacher pay levels remain about 8% lower in real terms than in 2007, just before the financial crisis. And they are still about 4-5% lower for less experienced teachers"

ThisIsGroundControl · 01/03/2022 19:41

Who decided that an independent panel decided the rise? Who is paying this independent panel? What payrise has the independent panel got this year? Who makes up this independent panel?

Pedallleur · 01/03/2022 19:41

Don't forget everything else they are entitled to. Privileged parking, subsidised meals in the Hoff, heating allowance of £3.5k, ability to swap their homes to get them decorated, etc.

Pedallleur · 01/03/2022 19:41

Should read H of C

DamnUserName21 · 01/03/2022 19:42

Rosebell, pointless to you. Not to others.

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SpecialSexBlanket · 01/03/2022 19:46

As someone who's self employed and one of the 3 million excluded from financial help, I think they're just mugging off the general public. Amazing how they can always find the money for their pay rises.

Happypootler · 01/03/2022 19:50

Hadn't had a payrise in 10 years until this year when I got 1%. Work in education.

Hospedia · 01/03/2022 19:58

Pay rise, expenses (my MP even claimed 50p for a Wilko glue stick), second homes, payments towards their energy bills, backhanders from businesses and Russian donators , plus second jobs. They get enough.

Didn't the Bank of England tell people not to ask for payrises as a response to the rise in cost of living?

It's going to feel like a kick in the teeth for so many households and it smacks of noses firmly in the trough while the rest of us have to make do with no payrise and increased costs.

MajorCarolDanvers · 01/03/2022 20:00

Below inflation and way below average pay rises.

Bigoldhag · 01/03/2022 20:01

Hilarious given the civil service pay freeze last year and I am sure we will not see even close to this percentage this year!

MsTSwift · 01/03/2022 22:46

Nothing stopping you all being MPs knock yourself out. Long hours lots of abuse and two mps killed on the job - there are easier ways of earning £82k!

RewildingAmbridge · 01/03/2022 22:53

I work in the justice sector, our practitioners are starting on £400 a year more than they were 14 years ago, and we've been on pay freeze for most of the last ten years. The only way to get a raise is to get a promotion. We can't recruit admin because they get paid more in retail and deal with a hell of a lot less responsibility

IJoinedJustForThisThread · 02/03/2022 00:39

I’m public sector and can’t even remember when we last had a pay rise. We’re so lucky, we get to work as much unpaid overtime as we like, don’t have to worry about what to spend bonuses on, as we don’t get them and parking at work is a bargain at only £800 a year.

floss1 · 02/03/2022 00:50

Public sector - haven’t had a pay rise for years and they won’t tell us what we may get this year; I would bet my mortgage on the fact that it won’t be 2.7% Disgraceful!!

OldNeo · 02/03/2022 00:56

@Neolara

I'm public sector. I found out today our pay rise is 1.75%. So, given inflation, a pay fall.
Yes it’s rather galling considering we asked for 7%, it makes me wonder what I’m paying my hefty union fees for. The stand off from Nov-Feb that merely delayed us receiving the award was also a waste of time. Very disappointing @waitingpatientlyforspring
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