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VelvetChairGirl · 01/03/2022 11:30

so tube strikes today, went out half an hour earlier to get to school, roads leading towards central london packed, going out from central london not so bad, buses going out looked ok not full, rather a lot of them.

buses heading into central packed, absolutely packed, 4 buses went past packed, walked all the way to school in the end (1 and a half hours) and bare in mind the buses are meant to be every 10 mins and we saw a total of 4 in the packed traffic.

and when I say heading to central, I dont mean we were going in to central I mean all the buses heading that way, this is still outer london, none of the buses actually go into zone 1 (I.e further then hammersmith) but it was everything heading that way screwed.

now it wasnt this bad at the last tube strike, I think it goes to show how many people were working from home, today was absolute chaos.

why does everything have to be in, towards central london, why does everyone in the morning have to commute in, why isnt there a equal amount of businesses and schools etc in the other direction so you get a equilibrium of vehicles in and out.

one thing not working (the tube) and everything is fucked.

might as well do the vote

YABU its a good idea to have work and schools etc in the centre and homes outside so rush hour is everyone trying to head in the same direction twice a day.

YANBU homes, schools and work places should be evenly spaced out around the city so people go in all directions at rush hour thus equilibrium across the roads and public transport network at all times (pretty much).

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VelvetChairGirl · 01/03/2022 14:43

@fiftiesmum

And tfl have the cheek to put the fares up today. What is the strike over? Is it a pay increase for those drivers on £50000 plus or the ex-ticket sellers/collectors who stand around at the top of the escalator doing nothing (supposed to be assisting travellers but will run away when a passenger goes near because they need to social distance still)
I have no idea I only learned about it yesterday there was boards up in the station and it was in the Metro.
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VelvetChairGirl · 01/03/2022 14:45

@INeedNewShoes

When there's a big tube strike like this, the traffic on the roads in London grinds to a halt. It's not really a surprise. At least it was well advertised so you could make alternative plans. When I lived in Paris I sometimes wouldn't find out there were no buses due to a strike until I'd been standing at the bus stop for half an hour!

I'm surprised that you tried to get the bus when it is a walkable distance (yes, you might not want your DC to have to do it every day but it's a manageable distance every so often).

I agree with your point though, that it's not ideal having the majority of transport heading in the same direction at rush hour.

In terms of Central London being the business hub, I'd think even bigger and, rather than moving more businesses to Zones 3/4/5/6 it would be good if businesses could think outside the box and set up offices in or around other cities.

Businesses feel the need to have a head office in London as though they'll be less credible if they don't.

bloody school bag wieght tho, he already moans every day his back and knees hurt, bloody thing hurts my back too.
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VelvetChairGirl · 01/03/2022 14:47

he's got detention for being late so might manage to get a bus home today as he will be later then standard going home time.

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Daenerys77 · 01/03/2022 14:48

.......a huge number of staff sat on furlow at home while the service was reduced to a minimum during the pandemic.

Furlough is completely irrelevant. The decision whether to put an employee on furlough was always the employer's.

TicTacHoh · 01/03/2022 14:48

I have no idea I only learned about it yesterday there was boards up in the station and it was in the Metro.

If you live anywhere near London and use it's public transport, you need to be signed up
To TFL travel alerts.

VelvetChairGirl · 01/03/2022 14:49

@TicTacHoh

I have no idea I only learned about it yesterday there was boards up in the station and it was in the Metro.

If you live anywhere near London and use it's public transport, you need to be signed up
To TFL travel alerts.

I dont carry a phone around
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TicTacHoh · 01/03/2022 14:50

Velvetchair - it's an email service, you would have been notified last week

VelvetChairGirl · 01/03/2022 14:52

@TicTacHoh

Velvetchair - it's an email service, you would have been notified last week
meh wouldnt have made any difference I still would have tried it at 7.30.
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Westfacing · 01/03/2022 15:02

Most cities and large towns are surely the same as London regarding commercial centres and suburbs etc?

The blame today lies with the RMT.

Comefromaway · 01/03/2022 15:08

@VelvetChairGirl

he's got detention for being late so might manage to get a bus home today as he will be later then standard going home time.
Sorry, am I reading this correctly. He got detention for being late on the day of the tube strike?????

If so that is totally unacceptable. The school needs to understand that everyone is trying their best and I would raise hell.

ivykaty44 · 01/03/2022 15:08

It would be much better if there wasn't such a massive over concentration of everything in London. It really is ridiculous.

three quarter of the population live in the south east

what do you propose?

BobLemon · 01/03/2022 15:10

You’ve got a bright town planning career ahead of you, OP

merrymouse · 01/03/2022 15:15

@Beefcurtains79

Your school is really a 90 minute walk? I can walk from East to West London in that time.
What are you counting as East and West London? I’m fairly sure London is more than 7 miles across.
Newnamefor2022 · 02/03/2022 15:07

@OneTC

Attempts to decentralise London resulted in Croydon

Be careful what you wish for

Grin
Finallylostit · 02/03/2022 16:19

Hate them - if they actually stood on the platforms and helped people fine but standing at the top of the stairs - giving out crap information.

So selfish - shutting the doors on the connecting trains are on the platform and just opened their doors.

Don't get me started walked 25 kms to work and back yesterday - good for my step counter but not for my bloody pressure or temper.

Selfish sellfish selfish - it is not about safety, it is about them not the customers who the service is there to serve.

Don't get me started

Cablefable · 02/03/2022 16:20

Ah the great combination of raising fares and a strike, nice one.

BasiliskStare · 02/03/2022 18:47

Am I right that many of the large companies who relocated to Croydon have since moved. I may not be. Just asking

SoupDragon · 02/03/2022 19:05

@BasiliskStare

Am I right that many of the large companies who relocated to Croydon have since moved. I may not be. Just asking
Which big companies? Nestle moved even further out from what I can see. I don't know what others there were. Commercial Union went through several mergers, ending up as Aviva, and moved to York.
BasiliskStare · 02/03/2022 19:14

Many moons ago I had a job in Croydon so am thinking AIG - big green building near E Croydon station , Commercial Union - also the ones in the little egg box tower by the station . I think IBM had an office there

But I am very old @ Soup Dragon - it was just out of interest . Thank you .

BasiliskStare · 02/03/2022 20:15

Sorry , meant @SoupDragon

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