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To say no to inlaws request?

52 replies

Whatsmename · 28/02/2022 20:19

I've had a difficult relationship with MIL since my relationship with DH began. In the beginning, she was very pushy, kept going on about us getting married and specifying what decisions she would want to be in charge of making in return for financial help. In the end it got so much that we postponed the wedding and then unexpectedly got pregnant a few months later so we had a very small, simple wedding a few years later. Mainly to stop MILs meddling. Then it was comments about money and her asking extremely nosey questions about my (v poor) family's wealth and comparing it to her own wealthy gains over the years. It was very uncomfortable.

When our children came along, she thought she was going to be a second mother to them and she criticised many of my parenting choices, lots of snide, sarcastic comments. Lots of rude comments about my own family. She began to compete with me. If DH told her what gift I was planning to buy them for Christmas or a birthday, she would buy it first and present it to them. FIL was equally as possessive of my children and they expected so many visits a week- I became nothing more than a vessel for producing their grandchildren. Completely ignored but expected to release my children into their care regularly. They would then ignore their routines, feed them foods you wouldn't feed a baby and became offended by any instructions I gave them. She was obsessed with giving them water despite all advice not to prior to 6 months. It was draining and caused me a great deal of mental distress.

She then started meddling in our finances, turned up at our meeting with the building society having not been invited... I then fell out with her.

It's been a long road over a period of 10 years, some NC, arguments with DH. He used to defend her "clumsiness" a lot, as he used to perceive it. But I've got to a point where I can tolerate her in my life through me grey rocking her. Both her and FIL know very little about me now. I am not myself in their company at all and it takes a lot of energy making myself watch what I'm saying during each visit. My marriage with DH has improved tremendously since grey rocking them as he is a bit oblivious and provided I'm not complaining about them, he thinks we're all getting along.

However, things have become a bit complicated more recently as it has been requested that we go on holiday with his parents 😱. Now I can't grey rock for an entire week! They are wanting to pay for it etc and I'm expected to go, but I have said no to DH.

He has accepted my decision but I feel so guilty about it! Of course, DCs and him could go without me but the youngest is only 2 and has only ever been away from me for one night. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that at all. And why should I put myself through that because of her past behaviour? But the guilt... the guilt is all consuming.
AIBU to say no?

OP posts:
Hapoydayz · 28/02/2022 21:09

How would they know about your building society appointment unless your DH told them?

jay55 · 28/02/2022 21:10

It wouldn't be a holiday but a test of endurance.
Fuck that.

Whatsmename · 28/02/2022 21:15

DH didn't ask me to go.
They askrd him, he told them no as he knew what my answer would be and then he didn't even mention it to me.

I was told about it by another family member who asked me when we were all going away together. I said I didn't know what they were talking about. I asked DH and he then told me. He asked me if I might consider it then and I said no.

OP posts:
AnneLovesGilbert · 28/02/2022 21:18

Why would he think you’d consider it?!

VivX · 28/02/2022 21:21

YANBU and at least your dh had the good sense to decline!

Cheesecakeandwineinasuitcase · 28/02/2022 21:23

Fuck that. Say no. I’ve been through it with my own mil and there is no way on this earth I would miss out on a week with my 2 year old so they can go on holiday with her.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 28/02/2022 21:23

Not a cat in hells chance would I or my children be going.

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 28/02/2022 21:24

Surely theres a compromise here? One of you go mid week to mid week, one of you go sat to sat so only a few days overlap, you stay somewhere 20 min away and only see them for a few hours day etc...

DontBeMean · 28/02/2022 21:24

If your husband wants to g why doesn't he take the older kids and you go and do something with the toddler. I'd love that if I were you.

LaLaLouella · 28/02/2022 21:26

Stick to your guns - no, you don't want to go on holiday with them and you wont change your mind.

StoneofDestiny · 28/02/2022 21:28

Your in laws sound pretty unhinged and seriously controlling. Can't imagine you still have contact after all their offensive behaviour. Clearly too much is being told to them about your private affairs e.g. your appointment with building society. I'd have spontaneously combusted if my in Laws came uninvited to such a private meeting! (And I've got lovely in laws).

No way should any of you be going on holiday with them - your DH needs to pay attention to you more than them. He isn't married to them.

Spudina · 28/02/2022 21:29

He doesn’t sound very supportive of you. Don’t feel bad about not going. Are you happy sending your 2 year old? Could you keep them home if not?

Shoemadlady · 28/02/2022 21:30

No, no, no. Do not let your children go with them. They're your children and you should ABSOLUTELY NOT FEEL GUILTY for feeling the way you do. They both need to give it a rest and back off. Your DH also needs to grow a backbone and tell them to back off.
I don't know how you've managed to keep your cool. His parents are bad, but if my husband didn't have my back I'd be devastated and to be honest don't know if I could ignore it.

DrWankincense · 28/02/2022 21:32

Keep saying no. It'll end in tears!

TravellingFrom · 28/02/2022 21:39

So it sounds like your DH has your back and dealt with his parents very well.
You might want to give him a bit more credit re the thinking you are all getting along if he knew that there was no way you would be happy to spend a week with them.
So he answered and didn’t even mention it to you. I think that’s all good.

And for the guilt.
Why but why wouod you feel guilty about not putting yourself in a situation where you know said PIL are going to over ride you all the time. It would be like opening the door wide open for them to mess you around.
Please don’t feel guilty. You are saying no because of their behaviour, nit because you want to be mean.
Your dcs are still little. You wouldn’t let them go away for that long even if it was someone else. Why would you feel guilty because it is them?

StringFellow · 28/02/2022 21:42

@Ozanj

You’re free to say no of course but yabu to ban your kids from going. Their relationship is entirely seperate from yours.
No it’s not, DH can facilitate it of course but you can’t be vile to the children’s mother and expect everything to go your way, what do the kids end up learning from that when they’re older?
Morechocolatethanbarbara · 28/02/2022 21:43

I was asked to go on a fortnight holiday with my in-laws 😱 I told them we didn't have the kind of relationship where that would be enjoyable.
It shut the conversation down pretty quickly, but it's the truth.

There comes a point in your life when time is just to precious to spend it doing things that make you unhappy, for people who make you unhappy (& let's face it, the holiday would be about their happiness and not yours).

Will I stand on the side of a cold, wet field to cheer my child on at sport, yes. It makes my child happy, so totally worth it.

Will I spend 2 weeks of annual leave with people who make me cry? Nope, not worth it.

Thankfully your DH has already said no, so consider the matter closed and well done for not being a doormat.

Beancounter1 · 28/02/2022 21:45

It is easy for us to say "don't feel guilty", but harder for you to actually put this into practice.
Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to really examine where this guilt is coming from? It is probably to do with your childhood and the messages you absorbed from your mother (as always with these things).
Perhaps some sessions with a counsellor if you can find the money, or some self-help books, or just a good long chat about it with a close friend?
This guilt is not healthy for you.

Heatherjayne1972 · 28/02/2022 21:49

I went on holiday with in-laws in 2005
I’ve since divorced her son

Not sure I’m over that holiday yet- the mental scars are real

Op -Nope. Stuff the guilt. Stay home your toddler needs you not her

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 28/02/2022 21:55

I went with ils once.
Never
A-fucking-gain.
We had adjoining apartments. 2 dc and a cot in each. Their insistance. Ds 2 slept all night so I put him to bed and assumed for a normal night. From our place I heard an alarm several times during the night..
Fil had set his alarm at various times to check ds was warm enough.. Woke him every time. Poor kid was shattered!
Followed them inches away gave new meaning to helicopter parenting. Except when mil let go of toddler ds and he smacked his head. Butter apparently was the cure.
A&E said otherwise.
Getting divorced with the added bonus of not seeing them was huge!

Gerwurtztraminer · 28/02/2022 22:09

@Beancounter1 is right that it would help if you can examine where this guilt is coming from. I was quite confused about what you were feeling guilty about tbh.

Is it guilt you feel the PIL's should be 'allowed' to have this holiday and it's because of you they can't? Or is it guilt that the children are 'missing out' on the holiday? Or something else?

Understanding why you feel this way will help you deal better with it all. Because PiL's don't have any entitlement to such time with grandchildren after the way they have behaved. And your kids won't know what they've missed - and would not enjoy it if you are there feeling unhappy and being treated badly as kids will easily pick up on a bad atmosphere.

MrsWinters · 28/02/2022 22:12

You and the kids stay behind, camp in the garden or something if you want to give them something different.
I wouldn’t allow her to be around my child unsupervised and wouldn’t be around her
myself.
If she wants time with grandkids she needs to wind her neck in and start making amends

Totalwasteofpaper · 28/02/2022 22:15

I will NEVER. EVER. waste my annual leave on my in laws.

It’s bad enough that every Christmas from here to kingdom come will be pissed all over by them.

Sounds like the have found a path with grey rock. Keep on, keeping on.

Agree there is a “sit with self” activity here… I know people who get on with their in laws just fine wouldn’t dream of going holidays together. What is driving your guilt?

Hidingin · 28/02/2022 22:24

Nah they sound awful
But your DH isn’t oblivious, it just suits him to not get involved. You’re being naive if you really believe that, unless he is genuinely a very stupid man.

HelloBunny · 28/02/2022 22:31

Never heard of grey rocking, before...
Seems like the best policy to have!