To ask MNHQ to create a board about the current situation

[MrsMillhouse]

Just that there is a lot of posts just now about the current situation. And many with anxiety are getting very upset.

Aibu to suggest that this gets its own board: similar to what we had for Covid?

OP, if you're struggling with anxiety, why not just hide the miscellaneous threads like Chat and AIBU so that you can focus on the topics that you want to talk about?

This thread is exactly the same as the other one. Sweeping under the carpet, hide the threads if you don’t like it, hiding it away…

I don't mind reading about it and reading measured opinions/new information and so on. But it is getting wearing reading all the hysterics about the UK, when we're safe and so many are in actual danger in Ukraine. It seems like there's a new "are we going to get nuked?" thread every day, multiple times a day.

@GirlInACountrySong

In fact, hide the topic

You can always 'unhide' it when it's all over

@GirlInACountrySong Problem is you can't hide a thread without going into it, in the first place, in order to hide it.

And creating a section for it is no more 'hiding it away' than the section for Health, the section for Autism, the section for, etc etc etc.

Everything has a proper section and proper place.

You can't compare this to bloody 'autism'

You will know by the op, very first post, what the thread will be about

But if an innocuous thread about books or school takes a turn and Ukraine is discussed then I may naturally discuss the war....posters come along and say no you can't discuss this here blah blah

We aren't Russia,you cannot dictate what we say,where

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/4481166-war-topic

@GirlInACountrySong

You can't compare this to bloody 'autism'

You will know by the op, very first post, what the thread will be about

But if an innocuous thread about books or school takes a turn and Ukraine is discussed then I may naturally discuss the war....posters come along and say no you can't discuss this here blah blah

We aren't Russia,you cannot dictate what we say,where

@GirlInACountrySong For goodness sake, does no one have critical thinking skills or basic comprehension any more? I didn't compare it to autism. I said that there is a section for health, a section for autism, a section for covid, a section for telly addicts, so why not a section for the Ukraine War? Jesus.

We have sections on this forum for a reason. It is to keep everything neat and tiny, and easier to find. It's not about 'hiding' anything away.

So in AIBU there's a couple of threads about husband issues.....why are they not in relationships? The one about food? Should that not be in its own topic too? Thread about Ant and Dec should be in telly addicts

You cant kick threads about Ukraine out because they aren't in the allocated topic if others are left to stand

There's a long thread in Site Stuff, which is the thread MNHQ will read.

I think a dedicated topic is a mark of the importance of the subject, and that the current Ukraine crisis is that important, is generating lots of traffic, and unfortunately is likely to be around for quite a while

@GirlInACountrySong

So in AIBU there's a couple of threads about husband issues.....why are they not in relationships? The one about food? Should that not be in its own topic too? Thread about Ant and Dec should be in telly addicts

You cant kick threads about Ukraine out because they aren't in the allocated topic if others are left to stand

If it was up to me then everything would be in its proper place and posting for traffic posts would be deleted.

@GirlInACountrySong

So in AIBU there's a couple of threads about husband issues.....why are they not in relationships? The one about food? Should that not be in its own topic too? Thread about Ant and Dec should be in telly addicts

You cant kick threads about Ukraine out because they aren't in the allocated topic if others are left to stand

Because those subjects aren't comparable to what is being discussed here. You might get one thread about Ant and Dec every couple of months. For me it's the volume of threads that would mean a topic would be good. Just like Covid in March 2020. I'd have to search but I would imagine there was resistance to that back then but it all seems fine now.

@GirlInACountrySong

So in AIBU there's a couple of threads about husband issues.....why are they not in relationships? The one about food? Should that not be in its own topic too? Thread about Ant and Dec should be in telly addicts

You cant kick threads about Ukraine out because they aren't in the allocated topic if others are left to stand

When I'm win the prize to be Queen of MN for a week, my first policy will be moving everything to the topic!

AIBU would then be just for AIBUs, and the catch-all witter on about anything 'for the traffic' will be chat, which wouid also revert to being ephemeral!

I vote for @AuntieStella to be Queen of MN for a year!

@AuntieStella

There's a long thread in Site Stuff, which is the thread MNHQ will read.

I think a dedicated topic is a mark of the importance of the subject, and that the current Ukraine crisis is that important, is generating lots of traffic, and unfortunately is likely to be around for quite a while

A dedicated topic is fine. There are dedicated topics for lots of things on MN, but just about all of those subjects pop up fairly regularly on the miscellaneous boards as well. Nobody seems to have an issue with this generally.

The question is whether a dedicated topic for this particular issue means that posts about the situation in Ukraine on the miscellaneous boards will be censored. That is why some posters are clamouring for a separate board. And if people do post on the miscellaneous boards, then the self appointed thread police will be out in force to complain about it. They don't seem to do that when people post on AIBU or Chat about other subjects which happen to have their own topic.

As I have said on the other thread, if posts on the Ukraine war are to be restricted to one topic, I want MNHQ to be honest and upfront about that by making it very clear which topics will be censored from the miscellaneous boards. I also want them to make thread policing against the talk guidelines so that posters will be banned for repeatedly complaining about where others post instead of quietly reporting and asking for a thread to be moved. I can't say that I would welcome censorship of the miscellaneous boards, but this would at least help to minimise the self righteous derailing of threads by people who claim to feel anxiety about certain topics but can't quite bring themselves to scroll on by.

AIBU is and has always been, full of covid related posts

Despite the topic existing

Why isn't this thread in site stuff where it belongs?

@GirlInACountrySong

Why isn't this thread in site stuff where it belongs?

Report it and get it shifted?

@GirlInACountrySong

Why isn't this thread in site stuff where it belongs?

The problem with the Covid threads is that there was easily a dozen plus of them each day asking the same extremely daft questions over and over again. No one needs to read a couple hundred threads of ‘do I need to disinfect my shopping’ and ‘am I allowed to eat a sausage roll on a park bench’ every week. The war threads are a little bit different. I’ve only seen a couple where they’re talking about the exact same topic. They’re more varied, constantly changing with the new events and a little bit more worrying and important than asking for instructions on how to sterilise your vegetables.

"Censored", wtaf?

Forces sweethearts, menopause, teenagers, FWR & Black-mums are not censored because they have separate boards. Topics just lets people tailor their threads to their own interests.

I wonder how many ppl in Britain do NOT know about the war in Ukraine. Some people with reading age < 7, maybe?

@lljkk

"Censored", wtaf? Forces sweethearts, menopause, teenagers, FWR & Black-mums are not censored because they have separate boards. Topics just lets people tailor their threads to their own interests.

I wonder how many ppl in Britain do NOT know about the war in Ukraine. Some people with reading age < 7, maybe?

The issue is not the creation of a separate board, but rather the implication that, after the creation of that thread, people would no longer be able to post about the topic on the miscellaneous boards.

We do indeed have separate boards for parents of teenagers, menopausal women, Black MNetters etc, but that does not mean than posts about teenagers, the menopause or race issues are confined to those boards. It means that people have a choice about where to post. If they want to post on Chat or AIBU, perhaps because they want a wider audience or because they want to use the voting function in AIBU or whatever.

The people who want a separate board for discussions about the war in Ukraine don't want people to have that choice. They want all of the Ukraine conversations to be moved to that board so that they don't "clutter up" the miscellaneous threads. Consequently, it isn't comparable.

If it's simply a question of creating a Ukraine board that people can use if they wish, while they remain free to post on the miscellaneous boards if they prefer, then obviously that isn't censorship. But what they want is to ban this topic from Chat and AIBU. That's a different matter.

MNers are never gonna have the self-discipline to keep topics within their allocated named topics. It's volume reduction not full removal that gets achieved.

@lljkk

MNers are never gonna have the self-discipline to keep topics within their allocated named topics. It's volume reduction not full removal that gets achieved.

Covid and Brexit suggest otherwise.

And various other topics really corner their traffic - like S&B and relationships

It can happen