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AIBU?

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To not allow my little girl to stay with her grandparents?

126 replies

Allthegoodonesweretaken · 25/02/2022 21:23

Both of my parents are heavy drinkers. I wouldn't say full blown alcoholics but definitely alcohol dependant, especially my mother. She has approx 1-2 bottles of wine per evening (edging towards 2) plus gin. My father drinks a few lagers and one or two whiskeys. This is a typical weekday evening, more on weekends. They cannot go an day without alcohol. My father, if necessary, will only have the one and can mostly handle his drink. My mother, however, cannot. Despite drinking a large volume seems to have no tolerance for it. She has no off switch and drinks quickly, so is often drunk early in the evening.

Celebrations such as Christmas/birthdays calls for an all out slaughtering of alcohol. They both get roaring drunk. However, whereas my father drinks steadily and just get more relaxed, my mother becomes annoying, loud, antagonistic, verbally aggressive, and generally not someone pleasant to be around. She has caused endless issues in the family, fallen down and smashed her face up, tried hitting my dad (rarely but still), ends up in arguments with my dad and whatever else.

Long story short, I don't drink as a result. They've been this way for as long as I can remember. Luckily, my DH doesn't drink either. We have a fairly amicable relationship (she's fine during the day before the wine is opened) but I have nothing to do with her during the evenings after they start drinking. The thought of going an evening without wine is alien to her and she has called me boring and square because I don't ever drink.

I have a 3 year old daughter. She does see DD a few times a week and they have a close bond. She has looked after DD during the odd hour when I've been stuck for childcare but she is never with her grandparents in the evenings. I never want my daughter exposed to what I was with alcohol and the effects growing up

Yesterday, my mother announced she has redone the guest bedroom as a room for DD so she can stay over! I was a bit taken aback and basically said DD is starting nursery school so will be too exhausted. She will never sleep over unless it's an emergency.
My brother and sister in law sometimes stay with my nephew (4) so she can't see why I won't let my daughter. Nephew sometimes asks why Nanna is acting funny so even he is becoming aware. My brother drinks (though not to excess) mostly a few beers at the weekend so DN is around it a little already. That's fine, their choice. But family are already applying pressure of WhatsApp group about both the grandkids having a sleepover at Nannas together and my nephew already looking forward to it.

The idea of DD being around my parents with alcohol fills me with dread and it will simply Never happen. They stick their head in the sand about how much they consume. At the end of the day, it's their choice and will probably drink themselves into an early grave. If I've brought it up previously, it caused ructions so I leave them to it now. Not my problem. But I know if I mention that DD will never stay there because they drink too much there will be fireworks.

Friends sometimes think I exaggerate how much they drink, everyone drinks, blah blah blah so I'm doing a disservice to DD by not letting her stay. Also have had the odd comment in the past from relatives that DD needs to learn to stay in different houses, it'll be fun for her, she needs to get use to itz she's missing out, she'll be too attached.

Not sure how to handle this without causing problems tbh. DH backs me up 100% and says I should nip it in the bud now. I sometimes hate the fact that DD will never get to look forward to a sleepover there or we can't book a night away together but don't feel it's right to expose her to this.
AIBU to never allow my DD to sleepover?

OP posts:
moita · 25/02/2022 21:27

YANBU at all. My grandmother was like this and I was never left alone with her for this reason.

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 25/02/2022 21:33

Imagine your dd died due to being in the care of a pair of alcoholics...
Could you live with that?
Or easier to just keep saying no...?
Your absolute duty is to your dd. And her only.
You say you don't want your dd to have anything like your childhood.
So keep her away. Any unsupervised contact at all is risky imo.
Imagine she had an accident and ss become involved

You doubt their capabilities
Stick to your gut feeling.

Grk1964 · 25/02/2022 21:40

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Onlyforcake · 25/02/2022 21:42

How are they not alcoholics? That's a pattern of drinking and to excess. I wouldn't leave a houseplant with them.

Ffsmakeitstop · 25/02/2022 21:43

Yaabsolutelynbu but I would tell them now that there is no way your DD will ever sleepover if anyone kicks off just tell them you have not forgotten your childhood and if they don't like it well tough shit.

flipflopjump · 25/02/2022 21:44

Just say no.

Redshoeblueshoe · 25/02/2022 21:46

Tell your brother it's none of his business. Your DH is right, tell your DM that she will never be staying over, due to her drinking

GeneLovesJezebel · 25/02/2022 21:46

Just say no from the off. No ‘ill think about it’ , just no.

Redshoeblueshoe · 25/02/2022 21:47

Also she is drinking about the weekly amount of units EVERY DAY.

Bellyups · 25/02/2022 21:48

It’s doesn’t matter about the fall out. You tell them no, DD won’t be having sleepovers with them because they drink too much. DD is first priority, not their feelings.

A580Hojas · 25/02/2022 21:50

Yanbu. Sorry your parents are so shit!

When they ask why you won't let your dd go there for the night just say "because you're both always pissed". Blunt as that. Let them be angry with you, let them rant and rave. Now is the perfect time to draw a line under it.

Verytired2019 · 25/02/2022 21:50

I didn’t get past the first sentence. Never leave a child with people who are “heavy drinkers”.

rolypolydoly · 25/02/2022 21:51

Definitely not BU.

Please stick to your guns and do not let this happen. Your DD deserves better.

If they want a sleepover so badly they need to change their habits.

PerseverancePays · 25/02/2022 21:52

You are absolutely right in keeping your daughter safe. There's no two ways about it, evenings with grandparents are not safe. You want to spare your daughter what you went through.
Your daughter, your rules. End of. Let them kick off, so what's new?

TheCanyon · 25/02/2022 21:53

If be absolutely honest with them, fireworks or not.

Fil has actually just suggested he comes to ours overnight so dh can come with me to my grans funeral a distance away first thing on Tuesday morning. The same man that gets absolutely blootered every Monday (pension day), has had two house fires in five years on a monday, we get a call from a hospital/police every fucking Tuesday between 1-3am. NO. He will NEVER be with my kids alone, even in an emergency and he knows it.

Eekkeed · 25/02/2022 21:54

Exact same situation here and I never let my dc stay at grandparents for this reason. The only times I’ve had to when it’s been an emergency situation, my sister who lives with them makes sure she is keeping an eye on my dc for me.
My mum drinks enough every night that she falls asleep into her dinner at the table. I’d never be able to let my kids in their sole care something awful could happen and they wouldn’t even notice!

Ohyesiam · 25/02/2022 21:56

You are 100% right not to expose your daughter to any of this.
You are well within your rights to tell them why too. They may be in denial but it doesn’t stop it being true. You have plenty of evidence to back up what you say.

Totalwasteofpaper · 25/02/2022 21:56

I would never allow my child to spend time with them unsupervised

2 bottles of wine plus gin is a full on alcoholic.
They could very easily / realistically kill your child with their negligence.

“Can DD sleepover?”
“No because you are alcoholics”

Set proper boundaries and tell your brother to back. off.
Stop talking to your friends about it they clearly don’t understand.

Eekkeed · 25/02/2022 21:56

Also, let them be mad. If they were that bothered about having their granddaughter over night they’d stop drinking so much.

Darbs76 · 25/02/2022 21:56

Let them be angry about it, your duty is to keep your daughter safe and no I don’t think anyone will think that it’s safe to let your daughter stay there. I agree with your DH in that you need to nip it in the bud now and just say it won’t be happening. They do have a problem with alcohol, your mother is an alcoholic for sure unfortunately

Pallisers · 25/02/2022 22:00

Say no dd will not sleepover. If they ask why say because they drink too much to be in charge of a child (or indeed a hamster).

ThankYouStavros · 25/02/2022 22:01

I am in your shoes and you’re doing the right thing. You need to be clear with them “Your alcoholism is the reason my child will never be unsupervised around you” no grey areas. This is on them.

Ursusmajor · 25/02/2022 22:01

YANBU OP. not one little bit. If they ask for a reason, I’d tell them the truth, but then I’m someone who can’t deal with lies or half truths at all an I hate it when people have to skirt around the truth because others refuse to deal with it.

Bigoldmachine · 25/02/2022 22:02

Your instincts are screaming at you! Don’t ignore them.

Nillynally · 25/02/2022 22:02

I loved my grandmother dearly but I once had to ring my mum when I was 7 years old to ask for another family member to come and get me because my grandmother had gotten drunk and abusive. It horrifies me that this was allowed to happen when my family knew her problems with alcohol. Don't allow it.