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To refuse any viewings?

87 replies

CityHigh · 23/02/2022 11:47

We are due to hand in our minimum two months notice on our flat soon and we are thinking about refusing all viewings but not sure IWABU.

When we made an offer of rent on the flat we had to fill in a form asking if there was anything work we wanted doing/anything changing. We said yes and made our offer based on the blinds in the living room being fixed. It wasn’t completely broken upon viewing but the fix was clearly temporary and you have to reach right up to the top and manually handle it open and closed as opposed to just pulling a toggle like the rest of our blinds IYSWIM. We were told that this would be fixed before we moved in. We wouldn’t have accepted the offer if they couldn’t agree to this.

We moved in and blind was not fixed. This wouldn’t be a problem, only a minor inconvenience if I wasn’t disabled. This means that if I’m home I either have to sit in with it closed all day (I WFH) or DP has to open it before he goes to work which isn’t ideal either as we are ground floor and windows go across the front of our flat ground to ceiling.

I have emailed, called, chased up throughout the tenancy and have been told ‘contractors have been called’ but nothing has been done. It probably is only a minor thing, but they knew our offer was based on this being fixed and that’s what has annoyed us so much.

Secondly, our neighbours are horrific. This is the main reason we are leaving. We have lodged a council complaint and gone down that path as they are aggressive, bang on peoples doors, have parties of about 50 people and music until the next day. We have the same estate agent as them and we have tried to go through them but they have replied to one email and then ignored. We know they have the power to evict and give them warnings as it’s in the tenancy agreement but instead they have ignored it and our life has been hell since they moved in six months ago.

Our landlord sold our flat one month after we moved in. We allowed them in for valuations, to make the floor plan and other things but then they started to take the piss and try and book viewings (when we were only one month into our tenancy) so we said no and we were then hounded by the estate agent.

Our tenancy agreement says we have to allow viewings in the final two months of us living here but I know that our legal entitlement to a quiet life trumps that and we don’t have to let them in at all. So, AIBU to say no on the basis that they have been less than helpful to us so why should we help them? I would usually try to be helpful in this situation but feel like they’ve done nothing for us.

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Sargass0 · 23/02/2022 11:51

Are you going t allow viewings if the concensus on here is that you should?

Babyvenusplant · 23/02/2022 11:53

While I know you've had a shit time with them, I would just allow viewings, but only if its convenient for you to do so. Don't go out of your way to suit them

Chestofdraws · 23/02/2022 11:55

I’m not sure the landlord can do much about thr neighbours so really you’re just not allowing it because of your blinds?

Original poster
CityHigh · 23/02/2022 11:56

@Sargass0

Are you going t allow viewings if the concensus on here is that you should?
Yes or would would be the point of me asking on here?Confused We have moved several times over the past few years and always allowed access even in lockdown last year. I know we don’t have to let them at all but obviously I would like to attempt to keep it kind of friendly, but right now I’m not sure if we should.
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BearOfEasttown · 23/02/2022 11:57

Nah tell them to jog on. They didn't care about the repairs and maintenance you needed. Fuck 'em.

BearOfEasttown · 23/02/2022 11:57

@Sargass0

Are you going t allow viewings if the concensus on here is that you should?
Weird post. Confused
Original poster
CityHigh · 23/02/2022 11:57

@Chestofdraws

I’m not sure the landlord can do much about thr neighbours so really you’re just not allowing it because of your blinds?
Our landlord owns all 500 flats in the building. There’s a process of what to do in our tenancy agreement if there’s problems but we have only had one reply.
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Original poster
CityHigh · 23/02/2022 11:59

I wanted advice more on what I said here

So, AIBU to say no on the basis that they have been less than helpful to us so why should we help them?

If we say no, should we say why? Or just say sorry not convenient.

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KatherineJaneway · 23/02/2022 12:00

I wouldn't allow viewings personally. They can't be arsed to do what they promised, I can't be arsed to help them.

EveryAvenue · 23/02/2022 12:01

@Sargass0

Are you going t allow viewings if the concensus on here is that you should?
Weird. Are people not allowed to ask advice on AIBU? Is that not what this is for?

OP- I wouldn’t allow it. I never allow viewings. You might be renting but that is your home at the end of the day. If your landlord owns 500 (???) properties in your building then I’m sure he can afford your flat to be empty for a move or two. Sounds like they definitely could have afforded to fix your blinds.

MatildaTheCat · 23/02/2022 12:01

Do you need a reference?

Original poster
CityHigh · 23/02/2022 12:02

@MatildaTheCat

Do you need a reference?
No we have already signed a new tenancy
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confusedlots · 23/02/2022 12:02

But wasn't it the previous landlord who didn't fix the blinds? If the flat was sold to a new landlord after you moved in, what has that got to do with the new landlord? Or have I misunderstood your post?

lucylucyapplejuicy · 23/02/2022 12:04

Just seems petty to me, tit for tat. But I don't hold on to things from the past and would just allow viewings if they are convenient to me

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CityHigh · 23/02/2022 12:05

If your landlord owns 500 (???)

Sorry I should have explained that better. We live in a huge, new high rise in a city centre. When it was sold after we moved in a Chinese investor ended up purchasing out the lease for pretty much every apartment bar one or two which are owned by the people who live in them. That’s why they are soley run 100% by the estate agent. The landlord has absolutely nothing to do with the running of the flats. We don’t even have contact details for them- I think it’s actually a company.

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EvilPea · 23/02/2022 12:05

You don’t have to allow viewings.
I did and then stopped, the agents took the piss. They’d turn up unannounced, not turn up. Squeeze more viewings in when it was only one I had planned.
You feel obliged to clean, tidy, hide your knickers and washing! for each one and then sit there whilst your feeling judged and your stuff looked at and nosied through.

I wouldn’t do it again…. Unless I really needed the reference

CPDubs · 23/02/2022 12:06

I’d allow the viewings and make sure you are there to tell them all about the neighbours Wink

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CityHigh · 23/02/2022 12:07

@confusedlots

But wasn't it the previous landlord who didn't fix the blinds? If the flat was sold to a new landlord after you moved in, what has that got to do with the new landlord? Or have I misunderstood your post?
Yes it was the previous landlord who accepted our offer based on that but then we have also contacted the estate agent every single week regarding this and it has been put to our new landlord, who has said they will send our contractors but they’ve never materialised. Our original landlord didn’t do anything, but that’s pretty clear they just didn’t want the cost before selling now.
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EvilPea · 23/02/2022 12:07

No. Fuck them then. If you don’t need the reference.

You can’t pack round viewings anyway as, let’s face it. Your stuff ends up everywhere as you sort through it etc.

Quiet enjoyment is the term you need.

EveryAvenue · 23/02/2022 12:07

@CityHigh

If your landlord owns 500 (???)

Sorry I should have explained that better. We live in a huge, new high rise in a city centre. When it was sold after we moved in a Chinese investor ended up purchasing out the lease for pretty much every apartment bar one or two which are owned by the people who live in them. That’s why they are soley run 100% by the estate agent. The landlord has absolutely nothing to do with the running of the flats. We don’t even have contact details for them- I think it’s actually a company.

After this update I definitely wouldn’t.
EveryAvenue · 23/02/2022 12:09

I think people just saying ‘it’s just the blinds’ obviously doesn’t understand what it’s like to have something there that’s accessible but not because of your disability. I actually think that’s a really poor show from them.

Original poster
CityHigh · 23/02/2022 12:11

@CPDubs

I’d allow the viewings and make sure you are there to tell them all about the neighbours Wink
I thought about this but didn’t know if I could get in trouble for it? Although chances are they’ll hear them anyway. Right now they’re playing Adele full blast and screaming.
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TheChronicalTales · 23/02/2022 12:14

You don’t have to and I wouldn’t.

TheChronicalTales · 23/02/2022 12:16

@Chestofdraws

I’m not sure the landlord can do much about thr neighbours so really you’re just not allowing it because of your blinds?
I had a similar situation to OP where my landlord owned several flats in the building. They eventually evicted one tenant for unreasonable behaviour due to breaking a clause in the tenancy agreement.

Sounds like lazy people not wanting to do their jobs.

TheChronicalTales · 23/02/2022 12:17

Also you won’t get in trouble for being honest about noisy neighbours. I would be concerned they’d try to schedule viewings for when you aren’t on the premises though.

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