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Am I the bad neighbour or are they?

40 replies

barkingdogturfwar · 22/02/2022 23:30

I'll do the background bit first in an attempt not to drip feed. I've lived in this house for about 4 years, with my DS. Neighbours moved in at the same time with their DC. Every member of the next door family is annoying. They do everything loudly - chatting, playing, arguing. They stole a half a foot strip of my drive when they got theirs done Grin. They absolutely hate me having some spindly little trees in my garden and throw every leaf that floats over back into my garden Grin. They haven't been speaking to me for a year or two in part to do with me daring to have trees. I have quite enjoyed having them 'not speaking' to me as they can't send their DC round constantly any more, and we just ignore each other happily.

I've got a dog. The dog started barking at midnight last night. He's only done this once before, a couple of weeks ago when next door mum and dad were absolutely screaming and cackling in the early hours with their mates. They thumped on my wall then several times and there was no way of me stopping the dog barking aside from sitting next to him on the sofa downstairs. I had tried putting the radio on in the back kitchen/living room where he sleeps to drown it out but they were so loud that I could still hear them fucking cackling over the noise of the radio and so could the dog.

Anyway, he had started barking last night because next door dad was being loud in the garden. At midnight. And the kitchen/living room is at the back of the house. Suppose the dog was only doing what dogs do when they hear people shouting just outside the house. I was downstairs with him within about 2 minutes to stop him and thought I might as well let him out for a wee seeing as I had been dragged out of bed. As soon as I opened the back door, next door dad started absolutely incandescent rage level shouting 'shut the FUCK UP, control your FUCKING DOG, shut up, FUCKING CUNT'. It wasn't so much the language as it was the tone, he sounded unhinged. And this little rant went on for a while despite the fact that the dog was by now silent again.

They are the type to report everyone for everything that they can so I spent the next hour googling environmental health 5k fines for dogs barking 🤦🏼‍♀️ but I've come to the conclusion that there's very little that I can do to prevent my dog barking at midnight rackets right in his ear shot. It's not like he's out in the garden barking incessantly for hours or left on his own during the day. If I called him a cunt he would probably report me to the police!

They've got people over right now, and I know this because I can hear kids running and shouting in every room of my house, and the adults doing their usual cackling in the room adjoining the 'dog's room'. So here I am sat next to the bloody dog downstairs on the sofa again saying 'no!' Every time he pricks his ears up when there's shouting.

For balance, when I say shouting I don't mean that they're all arguing. They just shout instead of talking. All of them. I can put up with that, but not with being called a fucking cunt by someone who is annoyed by noise, but who created the noise in the fucking first place! They'll get worse when the weather is better too. I don't really have any resolution to this other than spending half the bloody night with my hand over the dog's mouth so that they can enjoy their loud social gatherings, as I don't want to hear barking myself either!

This was such a long post basically just to ask whether I am the nuisance neighbour with the badly trained dog or whether my dog is just being a normal dog and next door should shut up.

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expat101 · 23/02/2022 01:05

Can you talk to your local Council's building team to see if they have any ideas on how (jointly) you and your neighbour''s could reduce the noise level from each dwelling?

That way you appear to be trying to do something to resolve it, but also indirectly letting them know you can hear them equally as much.

Hit them up with a quote to get it seen to. That will quickly sort out how important it is to them and ultimately bring peace back to both sides.

PissedOffNeighbour22 · 23/02/2022 01:43

Reading this reminded me of my previous twatty neighbours.
You need to keep a noise diary in case they start reporting you so you have evidence of what nights they provoked your dog etc.

My neighbour had issues with trees too. So they burned them all down and could have taken the whole street out, the stupid bastards. Arsehole neighbours should be forced to live next to other arsehole neighbours.

Flickflak · 23/02/2022 02:15

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Holskey · 23/02/2022 12:38

The driveway issue is outrageous and I'd have looked into that already.

They sound awful and their noise would drive me crazy even if it didn't bother my dog.

I do think your dog barking isn't okay though. I love dogs and there's plenty of stuff I've not been able to train mine to do, so you have my sympathy. Shitty neighbours have got a cheek complaining about it though.

incognitoforthisone · 23/02/2022 13:18

So basically, your neighbours think it's fine for you to hear their noise at all hours, but that it's not OK for them to hear yours?

Yeah, they're totally in the wrong. If they don't want to hear a dog bark, they shouldn't make a load of noise in the dead of night - it's not like your dog's barking incessantly every time he sees/hears them on their property, is it? It's literally just because a sudden noise in the night has startled him. Also, it's not like he's waking them up, because they're wide awake and being noisy.

ChoiceMummy · 23/02/2022 15:31

I'm afraid that I believe that you have the dog and its your responsibility to control it, regardless of why its barking. And neighbours noise isn't, imo an acceptable reason to justify this.

If the neighbours noise is excessive then you need to go via environmental health to address this.

As for the tree. It maybe petty to you re the leaves, but again you've chosen to have them and they are impacting on others. So you see it as petty, I'd see it as a proverbial pain in the arse to have yet another thing to clear up after they I don't benefit from!

pilates · 23/02/2022 15:40

Is there any chance you could move?

LumpyandBumps · 23/02/2022 16:21

If they don’t like the trees where they are you could re plant them elsewhere- maybe in the 6” strip they stole for their drive?

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 23/02/2022 16:27

Why did you let them steal a portion of your property? It was to them the green light to walk all over you as well as your property. Literally

whiteworldgettingwhiter · 23/02/2022 16:44

Jesus. They sound unhinged. You are not U at all, but they won't have the self awareness to realise that their noise is making your dog bark.

Is it worth contacting the police to ask their advice?

longtompot · 23/02/2022 18:52

proverbial pain in the arse to have yet another thing to clear up after they I don't benefit from! Yeah, what have trees ever given us? Hmm

I think op your dog barking issue needs to be separated from the neighbours noise issue. I would keep a diary and go down the environmental health route. If my dog were barking due to neighbours noise I would have her sleep in a different room if at all possible.

Yants · 23/02/2022 19:22

They do sound like arseholes in general... but for a dog to be barking just because he can hear voices and laughing from next door is unacceptable in my opinion, it would annoy me if it was my own dog being so reactive even if the neighbours were being unreasonably noisy.

hammerandtong · 23/02/2022 19:36

Neighbors sound horrible! I would fear for my dog’s safety. There are collars to train dogs not to bark but I’ve not tried it. Wishing you luck!

tintodeverano2 · 23/02/2022 19:48

Both of you ABU.

You need to train your dog not to bark at noise from the neighbours. Why should they not be able to enjoy their garden and house without a dog barking at them all the time.
You say they are loud, but if you can hear them talking and laughing in their house, they will be hearing you too. Added stress of dog barking, probably doesn't help either.

They are being petty over the trees, but really, any cuttings or leaves etc are supposed to be offered to you, as technically they are yours.

Perhaps if you train the dog not to bark at them that may ease tension between you both?

Elsiebear90 · 23/02/2022 19:56

I love how kids making noise is supposed to be accepted, no matter how noisy, no matter what the time is or how long it goes on for, but people expect a dog to be silent 24/7. It’s a dog, if it hears loud noises it’s going to bark, it’s not a robot, barking twice at random loud noises is not something you can prevent.

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