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Is this normal 7 year old behaviour?

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cranniefrannie · 21/02/2022 09:50

I would have posted this on the parenting forum, but most posts seem to be about babies, so not sure that's the right place for this.

I'm getting increasingly worried about my son and his behaviour and how he appears different to other children of the same age. I understand that 'normal' is a spectrum, but I'm not sure if there may be an underlying cause for his behaviour (ADHD, ADD, ASD possibly). Looking for opinions on those who have / have experience with 7 year old boys!

Some examples of his behaviour:

  • Constant noise. All the time. Humming, singing, silly noises. Right now he is doing some maths, he is making constant silly sounds as he completes it! When drawing he will be noisy, playing with toys he will be noisy, watching TV he will be hanging upside down! He can be quiet when engrossed in something, for example building a lego set, playing his switch, reading a book, he can sit through a 2 hour + movie at the cinema. On those occasions he will be quiet and not jumping around.
  • He is noisy around other children, who sometimes seem overwhelmed by him. He doesn’t seem to recognise when they are getting annoyed, unless they directly tell him. Will quite often ‘get in their face’ making silly faces / noises / saying silly things.
  • Finds standing in lines / queues difficult… will often be the ‘odd one out’ jumping around or fidgeting. Same with sitting still at dinner time. Will often need reminding to sit properly with legs down under the table.
  • Plays with a lot of the younger children at school. He does often play with his peer group too, but they can be quite nasty to him (in particular the boys), saying things like he is ‘rubbish at football’ and ‘they don’t like him’. We've had meetings with the school about the boys being horrible to him. He is more popular with the girls who describe him as kind, funny and caring.
  • Very academically able. He is reading books beyond his years, very wide vocabulary, most spelling tests he gets 8/10+ (despite seldom practising at home), often gets 100% in maths tests (again with limited practise at home), lovely handwriting, very imaginative and will write stories that are pages and pages long. According to school he is excelling in maths and computing.
  • Never has tantrums (or had tantrums as a toddler), never had meltdowns. He is not aggressive or mean at all. Accepting of what I say and new rules, very compliant if asked to do something, although he will often get half way through and get distracted! He has always been a fantastic sleeper.
  • School has said he often appears to not be paying attention. Anything will distract him (children playing outside the window, other children chatting or moving around). However, this isn’t effecting his school work at the moment and he does consistently well. They have concerns about him moving up into KS2 with his lack of focus. He also comes out of school most days looking bedraggled (think bag wide open, hands full of stuff that could be in his bag). Quite often has to be sent back in because he’s forgotten something.
  • Really enjoys minecraft / nintendo switch. Would sit and play on it all day (or watch related videos on youtube) if allowed. He currently has a one hour limit a day which he's never complained about and accepts, but will often still do a minecraft related activity, for example reading a book about minecraft or drawing a picture.

However, he will also engage with other interests - such as asking what I'd like to play that day, we watch a variety of films together, he loves David Walliams books, pokemon, Yu-Gi Oh. At the toy shop recently he spent his money on a mario lego set, minecraft book and pokemon teddy. So it's not as though he has one fixation.

I was also very academically able at school, always in the top sets and ended up with all A’s / A*’s across my school life. I notice that DS is very similar to me as a child in a lot of ways, I was described as ‘Taz’ (from the cartoon) and a ‘whirlwind’. I could never be quiet or just walk anywhere, I had to roly poly everywhere or be silly. I didn’t do any after school clubs as I just wanted to do my own thing and found clubs too restrictive. I didn’t struggle socially however, but I’ve since learnt that girls with ADHD / ASD can mask much better. Although I have grown out of a lot of those behaviours now, I would still say I am ‘quirky’, but able to fit in. I’m always spilling things, dropping food, being a bit ‘odd’ sometimes but not really caring. I have a lovely group of friends, family, partner. Jokes often go over my head and need to be clarified!

TIA

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cranniefrannie · 21/02/2022 11:33

Anyone?

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DropYourSword · 21/02/2022 11:41

Well, I have no idea whether it's "normal" or not, but your son sounds both quirky and lovely.

cranniefrannie · 21/02/2022 11:54

@DropYourSword

He really is Smile. I just want to make sure he is getting the correct support if he needs it.

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hellcatspangle · 21/02/2022 12:00

My DS was very much like this - his teacher used to say she wished he had a volume button. He did grow out of it to some extent, but even now as a young adult makes random noises and hums/sings when he's doing things. It isn't affecting his life in any way, he's very academic and doing extremely well for himself.

CatSpeakForDummies · 21/02/2022 12:01

This is a hard age because there is such a variance in how grown up they seem, but if you look around his peers you might realise that there isn't a single 7 year old who ticks every single box. There will be many a classmate looking at their child's reading and comparing it to yours.

Is he an only child? I don't mean that in a bad way, but it could explain why he is so ahead at language etc but finds it easier to play with younger people, if he's had less experience of playing. The flip side of being able to read a book or watch a film without anyone climbing on you or being annoying, is that he hasn't got anyone to climb on or be annoying to! This difference will be even more apparent after the last two years, but it sounds like he is a lovely, fun, sociable wee boy and will definitely get there.

I would treat the social things as a learning curve, much the same as if you were worrying about the academic one. So have more playdates (where you supervise and get him to reflect when he's overwhelming them), practice checklists for belongings (my DD came out of school at that age in socks, pants and a t-shirt having lost her skirt, but at 10 she can go to swimming herself and bring everything home).

None of these things are upsetting him or causing problems (except the bullies, who are not his fault at all), they are just little parts of growing up he is yet to learn. As he is only 7 he has plenty of time! He sounds just lovely and you sound like a great mum.

BogRollBOGOF · 21/02/2022 12:16

Sounds a lot like my 8yo.
My older one has ASD, dyspraxia and dyslexia and I'm pretty sure DS2 has dyslexia- green overlays stop the words wriggling on the page for him, and dyslexia would account for some of his organisational issues. I'm struggling to get school to join the dots and get us on a pathway to assessment.
I can't tell if there is something like ADHD, and the fact that he's very much like me is no reassurance Grin

From my DS1 experience, write it all down, since infancy, do patterns join up?
I found that once I started a mindmap with DS1, it really got flowing and lots of little quirks joined up into a big picture. I took it to the GP who referred us and resulted in an ASD diagnosis.
With DS2 there's less to go on, but he had had the same traits since birth- most of his baby photos were blurred because he quivered with happiness/ excitement all the time, and he still does.

cranniefrannie · 21/02/2022 12:16

@CatSpeakForDummies

I know a lot of his peers struggle academically where DS does not. He is an only child and I am making an effort to do more playdates so he can get to know and play with his class mates. He is not upset at all and is a very happy boy. Thanks for your suggestions and lovely comment Smile

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Bobbingtons · 21/02/2022 12:17

Sounds like me as a child (including watching TV upside down 🤣)... Because I was doing well academically no one saw it as a problem. However as a middle aged adult got a very definitive diagnosis for ADHD (combined type)
Now I'm not a psychiatrist, but if definitely look in that direction. I wish I had been diagnosed at a younger age as, although good academically, I really struggled to cope with a levels and uni but never understood why!

TheYearOfSmallThings · 21/02/2022 12:20

Your DS sounds almost identical to my DS(7) except that mine is academically average and so far the other boys don't find him annoying. But in terms of making noises, pratting about, getting distracted and general immaturity, I recognise it all (down to the same interests - his favourite it watching Stampycat or GeminiTay playing Minecraft while playing along with them on his Nintendo, while talking loudly about what he is doing, with lots of sound effects).

DS has been assessed for everything, because the distractibility and lack of focus used to be more marked. Everything came back normalish. He is still somewhat draining because everything has to be repeated umpteen times, but overall lovely.

We have done a lot of work on communication, and maybe your DS could do with some support with not getting in people's faces etc. Ideally his teacher would refocus him at regular intervals, although I'm not sure how realistic that is.

Thisisyourvaginatalking · 21/02/2022 12:24

Sounds fairly normal to me? The constantly making noise sounds a bit unusual. Other than he just sounds like a normal 7 year old.

adollopofthisandthat · 21/02/2022 12:33

My grin got wider and wider as I read through your paragraphs - this is my 7 year old DS exactly, with the exception of the lack of tantrums Grin

I have also wondered if he needs a diagnosis of some kind, but mostly I have decided that he is indeed both quirky and lovely; if we need to deal with anything in the coming years we will do, but for now I'm just going to enjoy him!

PinkSyCo · 21/02/2022 12:40

I’m no expert but your DS just sounds like a lively, intelligent, lovely, if somewhat noisy, little boy to me. Enjoy him.

lucylucyapplejuicy · 21/02/2022 12:57

Sorry I'm no help but your son sounds lovely and very much reminds me of my 6 year old also! I've had suspicions at times but honestly she's happy, polite, not behind at school and we are just going with the flow for now.

waterrat · 21/02/2022 13:05

I have a 7 Yr old girl with suspected autism. Your son sounds pretty normal I'd say within the context that as others say normal can be a wide range. But you knownhim best and if he seems to stand out from peers there may be neuro diversity. My daughter also prefers younger children and talks too much for other kida to cope wrll with!

Re sitting still I think it's absolutely normal for a 7 Yr old to be distractable and not sit still for dinner! Thst is more about our unreasonable expectations as a society of 7 year olds

He sounds bright and quirky and maybe just a victim of our very regimented school system where 7 year olds are meant to sit still and then only play with other children their own age

cranniefrannie · 21/02/2022 13:20

Thank you everyone, he really is such a kind boy, but difficult to see him being shunned by other children his own age at times. I'm definitely going to work on his social skills and have a chat with the school to see what they can do to help too.

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Sweetpea84 · 21/02/2022 13:44

I could write you lost word for word. My 6 year old son is exactly like yours but with the added suspicion he may have dyslexia because although bright he is struggling with his reading and writing. The only part I find hard is that some kids don’t get him and look at him like he’s some mass murderer, but he’s just very theatrical in the way he talks and expresses himself. As adults we have those who are very quite and those who have to be centre of attention and my son has to be always making somebody laugh or making sure they know he is there.

Your boy sounds lovely ☺️

adollopofthisandthat · 21/02/2022 13:50

@Sweetpea84 yes the theatricality, and in our case the dressing up - it makes them super special doesn't it (even if their contemporaries don't always appreciate it)...I sometimes think my DS must have been a Regency Dandy in a previous life Grin

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 21/02/2022 13:54

My son was exactly the same and so are a lot of boys that age.
I wouldn't be too keen to try and pin a diagnosis on him as he is doing well.
My DS is 40 now and was like this for at least 5 years before growing out of it. He's a perfectly normal adult now.

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