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AIBU about husband working nights?

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Rububububu · 19/02/2022 21:39

DH works a normal 8 hour day, but sometimes switches to night shifts for extra money. I find those times really stressful, as I struggle with the adjustment. I'm autistic and think that probably doesn't help, but every time he works nights I end up an anxious wreck on no sleep, with the only consolation being that at least it's only for a couple weeks. At times I get to little sleep to be able to do my own WFH job.

This time, it's been 4 weeks and there will still be another two weeks. I'm really not coping; I feel like a prisoner in my own home and barely see DH, who works away from the home 13 hours a day when on nights, with no days off. I've been miserable and he says he asked me whether I was ok with it and should have told him no. AIBU to think it's not that easy? If I tell him no, I feel like I'm being unreasonable or controlling. However it really affects me and it affects our marriage. We don't need the extra money. Is this my fault? Why does he put it on me? Is that fair?

Separately, if someone has tips on how they cope with a partner on nights they never see that would be appreciated. Thanks for listening, I'm feeling a bit defeated today.

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Pixiedust1234 · 19/02/2022 22:43

okay, your last post helps a bit. Time to invest in a shower over your bath in the main bathroom so you don't have to use the ensuite for a start (would be a good thing anyway if your ensuite one broke or leaked). Put your clothes in a pile the previous night so you can grab it without having to waste time getting stuff out of wardrobes, or leave it in the main bathroom.

You won't have to creep around during the day if he wears earplugs to bed. There are different types and sizes so he can't make excuses. As I said above I can hoover the landing and my husband does not hear it.

I think your main issue is the lack of sleep, everything is harder to cope with when you are exhausted. Try to get into a decent bedtime routine such as a warm bath, hot chocolate and an hour in bed with a good book before lights out (or whatever makes you feel good). Focus on that first and maybe everything else will fall into place.

Don't forget you can be lonely in a crowd of people so whilst I get you feel lonely when a loved one is not around you need to start being a little more independent. Since you say you are autistic then perhaps you would benefit from counselling to help you explore that.

It is hard in t he beginning, I won't lie, but it does get so much easier if you look for the good things rather than focusing on the bad...but that will be easier when you are sleeping better Flowers

Rububububu · 19/02/2022 22:45

@EllaB22

But does he not need to work nights to get more money?

Would you be able to manage money wise if he did not work the nights?

We 100% don't need the money, but DH can be a bit of a 'well it would be a waste not to' type when it comes to stuff like that. We can comfortably live off our basic salaries.
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Lou98 · 19/02/2022 22:46

AIBU to think it's not that easy? If I tell him no, I feel like I'm being unreasonable or controlling. However it really affects me and it affects our marriage. We don't need the extra money. Is this my fault? Why does he put it on me? Is that fair?

YABU, he isn't "putting it on you" - if he's asked if you're okay with him doing nights and you've said yes, it isn't really then fair to make it out as if he is doing something wrong by not turning down the night shifts.
If you were to say no and he then got pissy about it then that's different but you can't expect him to know that you're not happy with him doing nights if you told him you were when he asked.

I think it feels a little similar to if he wanted to go to a party filled with drugs and asking me if I'm ok with it, knowing full well that I am not, but that I'll look like the bad guy and controlling wife if I tell him not to go. (btw this hasn't happened, I was trying to come up with an analogy)

In the nicest way, that's not the same at all - he's working night shifts to earn money as part of his job, the majority of people are fine with their partner working nights and he's doing it for the benefit of the household. Going to a party with drugs/taking drugs isn't something that the majority of people would ever be happy with. It isn't beneficial in anyway and is reckless behaviour.

I can understand the routine changing being the problem and it is definitely different to them working away but I do think that you need to tell him how it's making you feel and if you really don't need the money then ask him to stop the night shifts.
If you're not willing to talk to him and tell him how you feel then you do need to accept that he's going to keep taking the shifts and he isn't doing anything wrong by doing that if you haven't told him

timeisnotaline · 19/02/2022 22:48

I think you should plan next time to say either no I don’t want you to, or im only ok with this if I can have lights on to find my clothes and use the shower between 7:30 and 8:15 am. If you can’t handle that then don’t do the nights, as I won’t be creeping around in the dark.

Nat6999 · 19/02/2022 22:54

I hated it when my husband worked shifts, I didn't mind mornings but when he worked afternoons & nights I never knew where I was & sometimes he would work a double shift doing an afternoon & night or a night & a morning. We were like strangers, I would get up for work & he would be coming in to go to bed or if he was on afternoons he wouldn't be home until 9.30pm & then would want a meal as I was going to bed. At least when he did nights he only worked 4 shifts a week.

Nat6999 · 19/02/2022 22:57

I admit I used to go to my mums for my tea most nights he was working, we had only been living together 6 months when he got the job, he even worked the night before we got married, finished at 6.00am & got married at 1.30pm.

Winter2020 · 19/02/2022 23:10

If your partner is not required to do nights, you don't need the money, and they make you unhappy then ask him - could he make this set of nights the last time?

It can't be nice for your partner to work 12 hour nights with no nights off. It seems the only benefit is money which you say you can manage without. Money isn't everything. If you can manage well on the money you havr it is more important to enjoy your home life.

Starwreck · 19/02/2022 23:12

I know I'm being unreasonable on that front because I need more things to be a certain way than the average person

You're not being unreasonable, you can't help it if it throws you. Unless he is an arse in general I imagine he'd be quite upset to know how much its affecting you if you haven't told him? If the blocks of a month aren't too bad then perhaps he could look into getting a set pattern?

AfraidToRun · 19/02/2022 23:17

I would 100% tell my partner not to work nights. For his health and mine. I wouldn't care about being seen as the 'bad' wife. However if he was the kind of person to throw it back in my face etc then I guess that's much a tougher decision.

AnotherEmma · 19/02/2022 23:29

Neurodiversity or not, I wouldn't particularly like it if my husband worked nights if it wasn't necessary, because of the disruption to our lives, being on different schedules and having less time together, plus I think I read that working nights can have a negative impact on health (which would make sense).

We should all be considerate of our partners' needs, and that's especially important if you have autism (or any other condition or disability). So it would be very reasonable for you to tell him that you find it difficult when he works nights and ask him to consider and discuss possible solutions with you.

It's not about telling him he can't work nights, i would suggest that you consider some options to make it more manageable, such as changing your sleeping and showering arrangements... is there a spare room (or somewhere you could make into a spare room) that he could sleep in when he's working nights? Could the two of you agree on a limit to the number of night shifts that he works? Or some other solution.

It's ok to assert your needs, it doesn't make you a controlling wife.

Flowers
AnotherEmma · 19/02/2022 23:32

@SockQueen

I work nights sometimes. DH seems to manage fine. He certainly isn't up all night with anxiety (about what?), if anything he probably enjoys having the big bed to himself. Yes, he has to do all the child-related stuff on those days but he does that on my normal working days anyway as I'm out of the house 6am-7pm-ish.
Is your DH autistic? If not, how is it in any way relevant to the OP that he has no problem with you working nights?
AnotherEmma · 19/02/2022 23:36

@zurala

OP I think you should ask for this to be moved to the neurodiverse board as people on this one just won't understand why this will throw you. I'm autistic and I get it, I wouldn't liked it either and I'd find it very hard to get on with things with my husband asleep upstairs all day. But NTs won't understand.
Please don't assume that all "NTs" will be as dismissive as some of the people on this thread... I may not have direct experience of what it feels like to be autistic but I do have imagination and empathy. This is not an "us versus them" situation.
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Rububububu · 20/02/2022 06:49

@Starwreck

I know I'm being unreasonable on that front because I need more things to be a certain way than the average person

You're not being unreasonable, you can't help it if it throws you. Unless he is an arse in general I imagine he'd be quite upset to know how much its affecting you if you haven't told him? If the blocks of a month aren't too bad then perhaps he could look into getting a set pattern?

He's not an arse in general, but he knows this is a real struggle, we've discussed it before. I think it's exactly because he knows that it makes me feel so conflicted about saying no. If he really didn't mind not working nights because it affects me and frankly affects our marriage, why not just reject them outright, without making me responsible. He knows I hate it and that I end up really struggling, but I know I'm probably being unreasonable there and should just say no myself. I find that quite hard to do.
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BadNomad · 20/02/2022 07:40

He gets home at a time I would normally get up (7:30am) he then expects all the lights off and as our shower is in the ensuite, I feel like I can't use it, and I don't like trying to find my clothes in the dark.

I would stop this for a start. Don't change your morning routine. If it disturbs him well tough shit. He's choosing to work nights and knows it unsettles you so he should want you to do the things that make life easier for you during these time.

spotcheck · 20/02/2022 07:59

It's not a safety issue, though my AIBU is more about whether I should just grow a spine and tell him not to work nights, even if that makes me feel like a bad wife

OP
That would be really unfair of you.

It sounds like a bit of compromise on both sides would go a long way.

Can you wake up 15 mins earlier to use the shower?
Can he go to bed 15 mins later?

Can he wear earplugs in the day?

Do you work from home?

NumberTheory · 20/02/2022 07:59

He's not an arse in general, but he knows this is a real struggle, we've discussed it before. I think it's exactly because he knows that it makes me feel so conflicted about saying no. If he really didn't mind not working nights because it affects me and frankly affects our marriage, why not just reject them outright, without making me responsible. He knows I hate it and that I end up really struggling, but I know I'm probably being unreasonable there and should just say no myself. I find that quite hard to do.

Does he really know? I’m asking because even when we accept what you say, I think a lot of us who are NT have difficulty really understanding. If you tell him you struggle but when he asks you if you’re okay with him doing it again you say yes, perhaps he thinks the struggle isn’t as bad as it is? He takes the time to check in and you aren’t honest with him, so he probably thinks it’s not as bad as it is.

If he’s not an arse in general then I think being honest with him might be the best bet.

On your separately bit, if you aren’t prepared to tell him you don’t want him working nights - Have you tried setting yourself up a routine for when he works nights? Would that work? Then when it’s a nights day you can say to your self “ahh, the day goes like this….” And when it isn’t you can say “The day goes like this…” So you don’t have “Routine” and “Upset Routine”, you have “Routine A” and “Routine B”.

So think about it a bit, plan it out. May be write it down. Think about things like when he gets in and when you’d be comfortable using the shower. If it would help, maybe have some visual cues that remind you you’re on “he’s on nights” routine - whether that’s using a particular mug or putting a picture of him on your desk, or wearing something different. Make the routine suit your day well but be distinctly different so it doesn’t feel like you’re just trying to get on with things and make the best of it. Do your dinner in a different way (especially important since you won’t be eating with him so you want to make something that’s nice for one and doesn’t leave you feeling like it’s the same as normal except he’s missing).

Think of things you like to do where he would cramp your style - whether that’s going out with friends or a soak in the tub with a good book, or binge watch TV he doesn’t like - and save them up for when he’s on nights so you have something to look forward to as well.

Have a bedtime routine that will set you up well for sleeping. Maybe shower at night if doing it in the morning feels awkward. Exercise can help with sleep. Use whatever relaxation techniques work well for you. One thing I would try and keep the same if it isn’t too awkward is the hours you sleep as your body clock tends to do better with this.

Also it sounds like you miss connection when he works nights - maybe the two of you could agree to write a note to each other each day. Not something big that you end up stressing about, just a small “I’m missing you”, or a selfie texted to say good morning/evening that you can add the odd thing to if something happens that you want to share. Or, if he’s not too dead on his feet when he gets in, you could have breakfast together in the morning.

NumberTheory · 20/02/2022 08:02

I also agree with some of the others saying he needs to adjust his routine for nights around you as well. He can’t just demand it all works the way he wants it to just because he’s decided to do nights.

Canhearthemice · 20/02/2022 09:07

Could he move into a spare room when he's on nights so he isn't disrupting your routine? Then you could shower and get ready without feeling bad.

If you haven't got a spare room, ask him to go to bed after you have got ready in the morning.

If he really wants to work nights he should be the one who makes the concession.

Really think about anyghing else that really bothers you about it and see if he can reduce the upset in some way with a compromise.

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