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AIBU that I'm unsettled by a school play for making a joke about prostitution

56 replies

Woolyminded · 18/02/2022 17:00

I'm either becoming a raging, permanently angry feminist in my middle age, or I'm justifiably miffed. I need to be told whether I need to get a grip or send the email I'm thinking of writing.
I love musicals and on Monday night I went to see a performance of the Sound of Music at my partners kids school. The school is known as a predominantly middle-class, well off families, very disciplined, very Christian sort of school. So I wasnt surprised when the performance was very swish, polished, and the kids were confident and sparkling. I was impressed.
In the first half two of the von trapps servants are engaging in a bit of banter about being in the navy. The pretty female housekeeper says something like 'i wouldn't know, I've never been in the navy', the male butler replies 'thats a shame, youd have made a fortune" with a sly wink at the audience. I cant think of what this could refer to apart from prostitution?! It just seemed so wrong to be said by a young boy, to a girl, in front of an audience of children and parents. They couldve left it out. I'm not a prude but I don't see whats funny about a joke referring to the objectification and exploitation of women.
When I mentioned it to my partner he brushed it off with 'it was a joke only the adults would get, its harmless'.
The older I get the more bothered I am about the normalisation of shit like this.

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Chamomileteaplease · 18/02/2022 17:03

Yeah I wonder the same thing about myself these days !

That does seem absolutely bizarre to have that "joke" in the play. Not that it changes much but how old were the kids?

Definitely email. Ask the question. Let them splutter over the response. How could they justify it I wonder? Perhaps other Mnetters will tell us.

sadpapercourtesan · 18/02/2022 17:05

It's completely inappropriate and not funny. I would see it as part of the very worrying agenda to normalise the objectification of sex work and exploitation of women's bodies, and I would complain.

Guess I'm a humourless feminist as well. Not sorry.

PolkaSpace · 18/02/2022 17:06

Yup feed it back challenge it. Its the only way it will ever change.

cuno · 18/02/2022 17:09

That would massively bother me too. Definitely email a complaint and see how they try and talk their way out of it.

ElvenDreamer · 18/02/2022 17:09

As far as I know that line is a reference to the way Frau Schmidt is so excellent at giving orders, it's not a reference to prostitution

WorriedMumsDontSleep · 18/02/2022 17:10

There are a lot of companies nowadays who sell these ready made plays to schools, which often have appalling content. Generally, if you buy one, you have to gut the thing rewriting it to make it suitable.

Off the top of my head I can think of one bought in play we had that had endless lesbian double entendre (Ancient Greek) and a pirate one with misogynistic 'ugly old hag, not shaggable' jokes.

So, the school might not have written it, but they still should have removed it in the editing process.

Personally, I disagree with buying from these companies because it sends the message that these things are ok. However, I have lost that argument every time because teachers have too much to do as well as writing a whole play. Sadly, it's a symptom of the very misogynistic society we live in.

Saskatcha · 18/02/2022 17:10

DDs school had a joke in a similarly well polished play about a woman’s leg looking like a chicken drumstick. The kid delivering the joke was 5. I was shocked. Nobody else seemed to notice.

MiddleParking · 18/02/2022 17:12

Maybe they, like me, completely missed the joke Confused I can’t see what that’s got to do with prostitution!

Gooseberrypies · 18/02/2022 17:12

@ElvenDreamer

As far as I know that line is a reference to the way Frau Schmidt is so excellent at giving orders, it's not a reference to prostitution
Yes - isn’t it that she’s not emotional and just gets on with her job bossing them around super efficiently?
Woolyminded · 18/02/2022 17:14

@ElvenDreamer, aha that would explain it. I really hope so!

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Trainbear · 18/02/2022 17:15

But a woman good at giving orders is not what the average person thinks of when they think of s prostitute.
Is the woman who says "oh I might as well sell myself on the street" when confronted with the need/wish to have money as bad or not?

Jazzyjeffery · 18/02/2022 17:15

You know, I was ready to come and say YABU. Me a decade ago would definitely have said so. But you know what, I know it's a joke, BUT, yeah... something is off about teenagers having this in a school play. Casually throwing in a joke about selling a woman's body doesn't give a great message to the pupils. In the current context, including social media, porn and naked selfles etc and its just another drip feed in the normalisation of the objectification of women isn't it?

CorrBlimeyGG · 18/02/2022 17:16

Frau Schmidt is not a sexy character, far from it. It's not a sexual reference. Maybe stop trying to look for offence?

sadpapercourtesan · 18/02/2022 17:18

It's clearly a sexual reference. "You'd make a fortune" doesn't work any other way. Given the nature of the character, it's obvious it's a dominatrix-type observation.

cookiemonster2468 · 18/02/2022 17:20

I'd feed it back. Tbh I know a lot of people love it but there are so many issues with Sound of Music in terms of feminism/ modern women - The whole song "I am 16 going on 17" for example - that I'm surprised they even did it as a school play. It has some good music but it's of its time. I hope they updated some elements of the story but judging by that "joke" probably not!

Seashor · 18/02/2022 17:21

I’m a huge defender of schools but I’d be really cross about this and I would raise it.

Woolyminded · 18/02/2022 17:25

Thanks everyone for your replies. Maybe I'm too quick to spot misogyny, but its hard not to when its everywhere!

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Fairislefandango · 18/02/2022 17:29

I'd ceetainly have raised a disapproving eyebrow if I'd been pretty sure this was a joke about prostitution, but tbh it seems a bit of a leap. @ElvenDreamer's interpretation seems much more plausible, given the character.

SpikeDearheart · 18/02/2022 17:29

I'm with you. I'm also completely creeped out by Bugsy Malone but have been told that I'm having a sense of humour failure 🤷🏼‍♀️

lottiegarbanzo · 18/02/2022 17:39

You don't 'make a fortune' by being good at bossing people around - as part of your job in the navy. You earn your salary. That is all.

You only 'earn a fortune' through private enterprise.

ImInStealthMode · 18/02/2022 17:42

@ElvenDreamer

As far as I know that line is a reference to the way Frau Schmidt is so excellent at giving orders, it's not a reference to prostitution
This Hmm
Georgeskitchen · 18/02/2022 17:47

You sound like a professional offence taker. The type to avoid at parties

GirlInACountrySong · 18/02/2022 17:47

@CorrBlimeyGG

Frau Schmidt is not a sexy character, far from it. It's not a sexual reference. Maybe stop trying to look for offence?
ahhh so theres no need for further frothing!
whywouldntyou · 18/02/2022 17:53

elvendreamer but how would she 'make a fortune' (wink) by being good at giving orders?

balalake · 18/02/2022 17:56

I don't remember that in the film version. Not appropriate in my opinion.

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