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world book day is a pointless, costly pain in the arse for working parents?

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LumpenProletariat · 17/02/2022 09:18

Does it make any difference to reading levels? As a solo working mum, I find it a total pain and costly too.

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Zilla1 · 17/02/2022 10:31

As PPs have said, the children's and YA authors that publishers sell taster books for £1/free with a voucher add to young readers' experience and reduce the cost of trying a new author, in particular where school library provision is reduced. Perhaps focus on that positive. Haven't seen the figures to understand what % don't get redeemed but I think it is significant.

sploshsplash · 17/02/2022 10:33

How about you forget about all the reason you don't like it and focus on the fact that you're child might like it 🙄

BooksAndHooks · 17/02/2022 10:33

I hate it, it has become yet another expensive dress up day that has nothing to do with books, they don’t even discuss the characters or which book they are from. The majority have characters from film and tv that aren’t related to reading in any way.

I’d love World Book day if it wasn’t about dressing up and actually engaged the kids with books.

Gowithme · 17/02/2022 10:35

I hated it and my ds hated it - he never liked dressing up but if he didn't dress up then he stood out like a sore thumb.

DomPom47 · 17/02/2022 10:35

I always give any fancy dress things to school when my two have outgrown them - as sod other parents. When it comes to any dressing up days the class teachers each have a few clean spare things to lend out. Make a suggestion to your child’s school about parents donating costumes/fancy dress items they no longer need. I agree it is something nice and different for the kids but all these days, events, donations add up and can add to peoples stress levels.

TinselTitsAndGlitteryBits · 17/02/2022 10:36

and I will need to bin the costume afterwards

Why?

DD loves world book day. She loves reading anyway, but she really enjoys dressing up - as do all her friends.

The costumes don't end up in the bin either, DD keeps them and dresses up at home; when she grows out of them they go to the charity shop.

Redsquirrel5 · 17/02/2022 10:36

Most kids love it.
Our school was in a very working class area and nearly every child participated. Some swapped costumes they had at home, lots came up with ideas from things they had at home, charity shop nearby did a roaring trade and we spent the day doing activities. Staff dressed up too. We put a lot of work into it to get the kids excited about reading. Shared reading KS2 with the KS1 class. Teachers swopped classes and read to the other class. Photo competition of unusual places to read or unusual companions to read to( snakes, ladybirds, budgies, chickens, favourite doll or teddy) and the Governor chose a winner. They were put up so everyone could see them, some were hilarious.
Used Halloween costumes - Winnie the Witch, Pumpkin Soup etc

Others we had were Worzel Gumidge, Miss Punchbowl, Toy Story, Little Bear, Spy books, football stories or non fiction.

Sometimes we had a theme like Circus, Nursery Rhymes, Animals.

Sharing your favourite book, writing up a review and then I stuck them all onto book shapes and displayed them so pupils could read them and might like to chose that book next time.
Visits to the local library dressed up created a stir in town and then the librarian read several of her favourites and explained the library system and they could get a library card if they didn’t have one.

We also had a swap hour where you could leave a book and chose another any left over went into classrooms or the school library.

Why complain about the cost and then say you throw it away? Please don’t. Give it to someone else or a charity shop so someone else can have it.

You don’t need face paints for a cat you can use an eyeliner pencil for whiskers or let your child make a mask from a cereal box.

Please don’t moan about it to your child most of them love Book Day.

TheKeatingFive · 17/02/2022 10:37

Let's hope maybe they're just using the tokens somewhere else?

And why's that a problem?

ShallWeTalkAboutBruno · 17/02/2022 10:37

Why would anyone need to bin a costume after one wear? They could be played with, sold on, passed on or given to a charity shop.
I bought a Hermione costume for DD second hand off Facebook market place for the last world book day.

smallestwhale · 17/02/2022 10:37

@ThePlantsitter

Completely disagree. I used to love the walk to school on World Book Day, all the kids talking about books, asking each other about characters and stories, acting out their character. It was like watching reading for pleasure in progress. That doesn't mean it's not a pain in the arse (though doesn't have to be costly with a bit of imagination) - but for me it's utterly worth it. We've got so hung up on measurables that we can't even see that 'doing something fun' has value educationally.
I think this is the problem. What you see are the confident kids who are already doing well at everything. You don't see the kids who are quietly struggling. The ones, like mine, who have cried every day for the week leading up to the dress up day because they are so stressed by it. You don't see the family day out that have to be given up to pay for the costume. If teachers think the only way they get fun in learning is through these commercialised activities then, bluntly, our teacher training has failed. (that's another thread - I think instead of endless curriculum changes we should instead invest in a proper professional, well trained teacher workforce, like Finland).
ThePlantsitter · 17/02/2022 10:38

@SarahAndQuack it works when the school spends the day doing activities about reading. I don't think dressing up on its own is the point at all but for me was just an indication that the idea works. I do agree that school time could be used to make costumes - maybe that would be better - but done right it should not serve as a reminder that you're struggling with reading but do exactly the opposite by reminding you that stories and characters are things you can enjoy rather than Not Achieve. People who don't like dressing up don't have to, of course - I don't think others shouldn't be allowed to just because they don't, though (as with a number of other things at school, not just dressing up).

I don't think it's the must wonderful day of the year but I do think it creates an atmosphere of joy in stories for a while - and I can't possibly say 'all' kids did it or enjoyed it of course but it seemed to me in my kids' very socially mixed school that most kids were taking part. The school also prioritised rfp so did activities promoting it all day.

SarahAndQuack · 17/02/2022 10:38

@TheKeatingFive

Let's hope maybe they're just using the tokens somewhere else?

And why's that a problem?

It's not! It's a good thing.
TinselTitsAndGlitteryBits · 17/02/2022 10:38

@Pumpfive

Why only working parents? 🙄 Also, not everything has to be beneficial just for academics. Children are allowed to have fun in school too!
This!!!
Fizbosshoes · 17/02/2022 10:39

Why does the world have to be driven by what’s easiest for working parents, the race to the bare minimum - extend school hours, fewer holidays, no dress up days? Winds me up. I work. I also dress up all my kids for world book day cos they love it and it helps with reading engagement.

I think sometimes it's a cumulative thing. If it was wBD alone it would be easier but some half terms used to be - odd socks day for x charity on this Friday, wear yellow for MH day next Friday, wear own clothes and bring a pound for dogs trust on the following Friday, bring a pringle tube and a lolly stick next Tuesday, don't forget your costume as a Greek god for the assembly on Thursday and it's WBD on whatever day. ....and it feels like a lot of homework for parents. (As well as their actual homework!) Maybe I'm just lazy?

My parents were very creative (but not well off) they made great costumes but I'm pretty sure it was one dress up day plus Christmas, not multiple times a year.

TheKeatingFive · 17/02/2022 10:39

It's not! It's a good thing.

Oh Grin

pigcon1 · 17/02/2022 10:40

As a working parent I am with you. I would prefer the school organised an author and everyone brought in their favourite book. If they come from a home without books the school should know and be ahead of that. This is just one more thing to be done and does not make a meaningful difference to reading levels.

Legoisthebest · 17/02/2022 10:40

SarahAndQuack that's true the vouchers could be being used in the supermarket/Waterstones/WHSmith.
I often notice in those retailers the books left unclaimed on the WBD stand are the ones for older children/teens. I would love to know why. I often buy the books for myself because I like the authors (ones bought for myself in the past include the Alex Rider one and the Cherub one).
I actually bought the Sophie Mackenzie that's out for this year yesterday because I like her teen books.
If I was 13 or 14 I would be overjoyed to have got a book by my favourite author for free.
Yeah.... something has gone wrong with World Book Day.

BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation · 17/02/2022 10:40

Autistic ds2 used to refuse to dress up, so just went in jeans and a tee shirt. He still read books.

It's a load of gimmicky crap, like a lot of what goes on these days.

Rosebel · 17/02/2022 10:41

When my DDs were at primary school they had about 2 years when they could dress as their favourite character from their favourite book. Every other year they had to dress based on a theme (usually Where's Wally?).
Of course the costumes didn't last for more than a year because they outgrew them.
Thankfully they're at secondary school now so no dressing up required.

Topbird29 · 17/02/2022 10:41

I have one ds going as darth vader (but will reuse the cape for other things/Halloween), and other ds doesn't like dressing up, so will be taking a homemade golden ticket and going as Charlie bucket. Other less dress up or "plain" clothes ideas are stripey top could be where's wally, or any pirate, a wand and normal clothes and mark on forehead to be harry potter or other hogwarts wizard when out of school, take a camera and notebook and be Peter Parker. Sunglasses and a newspaper with cut out eye holes to be a generic spy. It doesn't have to cost a lot (if anything) if you can use things you have at home. Our old school didn't do wbd dress up, but then had other random days which were even harder and more specific ....weather day, ocean day etc.

ldontWanna · 17/02/2022 10:41

@Fizbosshoes

Why does the world have to be driven by what’s easiest for working parents, the race to the bare minimum - extend school hours, fewer holidays, no dress up days? Winds me up. I work. I also dress up all my kids for world book day cos they love it and it helps with reading engagement.

I think sometimes it's a cumulative thing. If it was wBD alone it would be easier but some half terms used to be - odd socks day for x charity on this Friday, wear yellow for MH day next Friday, wear own clothes and bring a pound for dogs trust on the following Friday, bring a pringle tube and a lolly stick next Tuesday, don't forget your costume as a Greek god for the assembly on Thursday and it's WBD on whatever day. ....and it feels like a lot of homework for parents. (As well as their actual homework!) Maybe I'm just lazy?

My parents were very creative (but not well off) they made great costumes but I'm pretty sure it was one dress up day plus Christmas, not multiple times a year.

This. In March DD has 3 non uniform days plus the Easter activities/toy sale/cake sale/Easter bonnet.

All with money and some kind of effort attached. Hmm

Tyneside · 17/02/2022 10:43

My dcs school is a PITA as rather than being able to dress up as any character from any book i.e. utilising the dress up stuff we might already have, they have to dress up as a character from a set book. I agree this is a waste of money as I end up buying something off Amazon, be it an outfit or bits and pieces to try and make an outfit. This makes a total mockery of the whole no disposable packing in packed lunches (think of the environment) mantra that they drum into us.
I like the idea of WBD but I think the execution a rethink.

SarahAndQuack · 17/02/2022 10:43

[quote ThePlantsitter]@SarahAndQuack it works when the school spends the day doing activities about reading. I don't think dressing up on its own is the point at all but for me was just an indication that the idea works. I do agree that school time could be used to make costumes - maybe that would be better - but done right it should not serve as a reminder that you're struggling with reading but do exactly the opposite by reminding you that stories and characters are things you can enjoy rather than Not Achieve. People who don't like dressing up don't have to, of course - I don't think others shouldn't be allowed to just because they don't, though (as with a number of other things at school, not just dressing up).

I don't think it's the must wonderful day of the year but I do think it creates an atmosphere of joy in stories for a while - and I can't possibly say 'all' kids did it or enjoyed it of course but it seemed to me in my kids' very socially mixed school that most kids were taking part. The school also prioritised rfp so did activities promoting it all day.[/quote]
Does it work, though?

Or do people just not notice children like @smallestwhale's, who are made miserable? Or like the various posters on this thread who had similar experiences?

I'm fairly sure my DD will enjoy it - she likes dressing up, she's able to read a bit, she will be perfectly happy chatting about books. And her school seems generally good at doing relevant activities. But I am aware I lucked out in having a child who is likely to enjoy it all, and a partner who will turn to and make her a costume, and the money and time to do that. But I can also remember my dyslexic little brother in tears and not wanting to go into school, and I can remember being teased about it, and I'm quite sure the teachers imagined it was a lovely day for everyone.

I think we need to reconsider why such heavy moral value is attached to loving reading. Yes, it's great to get fun out of education, but loving books does not make you a superior human being.

Siameasy · 17/02/2022 10:44

I’m actually excited about it but I get that others might not be. I have the time to make a costume (nothing elaborate) but it must be stressful if you don’t have the time/inclination and you feel obliged to participate. The issue is the feeling of obligation

ldontWanna · 17/02/2022 10:44

@BarrowInFurnessRailwayStation

Autistic ds2 used to refuse to dress up, so just went in jeans and a tee shirt. He still read books.

It's a load of gimmicky crap, like a lot of what goes on these days.

DD loves the dressing up part...the reading not so much.Grin
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