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Re collective punishment

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ShoppingBasket · 15/02/2022 16:41

My daughter has come out of secondary school today really mad and upset at some of her classmates for talking in class. As they didn't stop talking/ fooling around, the whole class has been punished with extra work.
I'm thinking about complaining to the school but don't want to be 'that' parent. This seems to be an ongoing issue though with 4 or 5 students who are continually disruptive in different classes and the class gets a collective punishment. However, as my daughter says the students who are causing the issue don't care as they don't do the other work in the first place.
I have asked her to speak directly to the teacher after class but she says that another student already tried to plead the case of the other students. Teacher said they know it wasn't all of the students but the work still stands.
Not saying for a second that my child is an angel but she does have extra needs so she is very truthful and honest - sometimes to a fault! I'm sure she has been talking at times in the last few months. I'm under no allusion.
I just think it is wrong and all it has done is upset and make my child (I'm sure many others)frustrated and hate school. Surely the collective punishment is a thing of the past? She feels now, why be good and do her work and still get punished.
This is not a teacher bashing thread, I can imagine how difficult it is with all the disruption. My aibu is should I speak with school and if so what should I say? Doubt they will change their behaviour strategy just for me though!! Or should I just tell my daughter to suck it up?
YABU suck it up
YANBU speak with school

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Hospedia · 15/02/2022 16:44

Speak to school and establish the facts first. I'm not saying your DD was involved but a lot of children will claim they didn't do anything but were in fact involved somehow.

If you're able to establish that she wasn't involved then discuss with the teacher that you don't agree with your DD doing this work and therefore she will not be doing it. Collective punishment is unfair and serves no purpose, it really is a lazy way of trying to keep control of the class.

trumpisagit · 15/02/2022 16:48

It's a bit of an odd punishment if your daughter thinks those involved won't complete the work.
However it really won't hurt to do a bit of extra school work.
I wouldn't complain, but I might if it was a detention and child wasn't involved in the misbehaving.

ShoppingBasket · 15/02/2022 17:59

That's true, maybe there was low level disruption throughout. I totally agree with my child being punished for doing something she shouldn't have. Well my daughter is saying that they won't do it but she was angry then so may be just venting. Absolutely won't hurt her to do extra work, however what is the point of good behaviour if you are just going to get punished anyway?

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cansu · 15/02/2022 18:02

It is probably finishing work that didn't get done. Your dd may be exaggerating. She may also have been chatting. I would just let the teacher manage it. Those who worked hard probably have little to do.

sadpapercourtesan · 15/02/2022 18:09

Collective punishment is completely unacceptable. It's outdated for a reason and they shouldn't be doing it. I would be pissed off, OP. No teacher worth their salt would resort to such a slovenly, lazy practice.

balalake · 15/02/2022 18:44

I had this in what is now called year 3, never forgotten. Teacher did this to highlight that the behaviour of a few can impact all.

I am surprised that over forty years later any teacher will still do this. I wonder if there is an issue with one of the really disruptive children that there is an assertive/aggressive parent (or worse) and the teacher is not getting support from leaders.

Assuming your DD is being accurate in what you are told.

TheSnowyOwl · 15/02/2022 18:45

I would make sure your DD has given you all the, unbiased, facts first of all.

Leggingslife · 15/02/2022 18:47

Ask for a copy of their behaviour policy.

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