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Advice needed on SIL

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LVS2627 · 15/02/2022 11:48

Hi,

I'm having sister in law trouble and literally feel I have nobody to discuss this with for the fear of looking awful.

Shes been with my fiances brother for 4 years this August. I've been with my fiance for 6 years. At first I had no issues with her. I found she was pleasant and lovely and quite a shy girl. We got on well. However over the course of the last couple of years she's really been getting on my nerves.

It started about two years ago. She bought a house with my fiances brother in a really lovely area and as it needed a lot of work doing to it my fiances brother asked if he could temporarily move in with us while they where doing it up. He said he would only be there a couple of months. A couple of months turned into 6 months and during this time I saw a completely different side to him and my sister in law. She would come and stay over occasionally at my house and when she did she would sometimes not even say hi and just go straight upstairs to my brother in law. They also both completely disrespected my house. His room was a complete bombsite. They once ordered takeaway at midnight waking up me and my dogs with the sound of the delivery man knocking on the door. My fiance also told his brother that he didn't have to pay any rent to us because he appreciated the fact they where both trying to do up their house and needed the money. However, their money seemed to go on anything but the house. My sister in law is massive on social media and during this time she was constantly posting nights out they had gone on, meals they had gone out for and also a picture of her brand new mini!!!!
Meanwhile me and my fiance where struggling financially as I was still a student nurse at the time and we where renting this house with no help from either of them despite the fact we where massively helping them out even though they where basically in a much better place then us in terms of buying a house, career and money.

There was also an occasion that I invited her out with me and my best mate. She literally barely spoke two words to my friend and was on her phone for the majority of the night. My friend kept trying to ask her questions to start conversations and she didn't seem particularly interested in answering them. Since then my friend has been very wary of her and finds her very rude. In fact a few of my friends and my sister have said this about her.

Shes very materialistic. She also comes across as being very pretentious. Her social media just winds me up. Its just her basically trying to portray this perfect life.
She also has about 5 different social media accounts. One of their house which they've done up, a floristry account cos she's just started doing flowers and also a food account where she constantly posts pictures of meals she made. I literally can't escape her on social media !

Anyway....her and my brother in law have since moved into this new house and it just so happens to be right round the corner from my mother in law and ive gone from feeling super close to my mil to now feeling so pushed out.
When I was pregnant last year I felt like my mil and sil where just constantly together having drinks and I always felt left out. They would never invite me. Everytime I went onto social media there would be some picture of them together and it made me feel so rubbish.
On top of that my fiances family think the sun shines out of her bum and I feel like im the only one who can see her for what she really is! I feel so resentful towards her and part of me wonders if Its just jealously.
A part of it probably is but then I really do just think she's not a very nice person. I think she is selfish, pretentious, a massive attention seeker and rude!!

Whenever she is with my fiances family after one or two drinks she just loves drawing all the attention to herself by dancing around like an idiot or pretending to be absolutly smashed which my fiannces family find hilarious. I find it annoying and I cant even hide it on my face anymore. I dont get how she can be like this with my fiances family but then when she came out with me and my friends she was a completely different person?

Before my baby my partners family would tell me I was the life and soul of the party. I loved to have fun, I still do however i can't quite let my hair down now as I used to with having my 7 month old. I'd also say I'm very much a social butterfly. However, I feel like she's now just completely taken over my place in the family and everything has to be about her. Its driving me insane !!!!

I just feel so inadequate next to her. I've also gone from being super close to my mother in law to now just feeling awkward around her! We've all just been away on holiday as a family and she just had to try and make it all about her for the entire weekend. I literally can't cope with her.

I've tried to speak to my mil about how I feel without giving too much away but she doesn't get it and why would she ? She obviously just sees this 'perfect' dil in front of her.

I'll never forget the time my baby had just been born and the day I came out of the hospital my fiances family all came straight to my house to meet my daughter. It was nice but then I'd not even had chance to text my own family to say I was home.
My family had also unfortunately gotten covid so where unable to meet my daughter straight away.
Anyway...as soon as my sil met my daughter she posted aload of these pictures she had taken with her onto her social media without even asking me and also without taking my family's feelings into consideration knowing they didn't even know i was home yet and they couldn't even meet her straight away. I was fuming. That's just her all over though.

There's been aload of things she's done which I haven't liked but I'd honestly be here all day writing them down. Just wish I wouldn't let her bother me. Its getting to the point now where I literally can't stand being around her and its infuriating me that my fiances family can't see her for what she really is.

Please help !

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ForeverSingle881 · 15/02/2022 15:08

The ONLY issue I see is your fiancee not charging them rent. That was YOUR FIANCEE's choice. He is the only one to be angry with but since you've since had a baby with him, that's water under the bridge

I cannot see a single problem with her. Maybe she's annoying. OK. So what? Grow up.

YungBludForPM · 15/02/2022 15:15

I don't spend much time with my brother, brother in law & sisters in law just because we're so different, we meet up now and then it's all the kids but we don't have much in common.
My relationship with my parents in law is totally separate from them, they do things together and I do things with them. It's no issue.

I think you have to learn to separate the relationships, take a huge break from her social media - mute her! That's the main thing here.

Only thing I'd be kicking off about is her posting photos of my child on social media, that's a HUGE no no for me.

LVS2627 · 15/02/2022 15:20

Hi everyone.
Thanks for your replies. I appreciate it.
Alot of you mentioned the whole rent thing and why my anger wasn't also towards my BIL. Believe me it is. I cant stand him either if I'm honest.
You're all reading a tiny snippet and there is alot more thats happened so I appreciate that I do probably come across as bitter and jealous but there is definitely way more to this. I cant really delete her off social media as I couldnt be bothered with the drama and as far as she's concerned we are mates so it would just be odd if I did that.
I suppose I just need to stop caring so much. My fiance is extremely close with his family and I do actually enjoy spending time with them and always have done its just a shame I feel so negatively towards my SIL. I suppose I need to find a way to get past this and stop being so bothered but easier said than done.

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LVS2627 · 15/02/2022 15:28

Thanks for the support 🤣

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Booper42 · 15/02/2022 15:29

Every dog has its day LSV, and you will have yours! I have known my Mother in Law for 30 years, and when my sis-in-law came along 6 years ago, she made a massive effort to try and become 'top dog' , taking my MIL out shopping, constantly calling her- basically doing all the things that I had been doing for years ! They were joined at the hip!

My MIL soaked up the attention and my SIL proudly told me one day that I was no longer the favourite DIL - I told her that I was delighted for her and that I would step back for her, which I did, completely dropping all activities with my MIL because I was just so upset to be suddenly cast aside!

It all came to a grinding halt when my SIL realised that it was not a game and that my MIL is actually very demanding and opinionated -within weeks, my SIL dropped all contact with my MIL and now cannot even be bothered to call to thank her for Christmas Presents.....meanwhile my MIL has learned a valuable lesson in playing people off against each other, and I have learned to set up boundaries.

I think that sometimes you have to stand back and let people make a twat of themselves, so that everyone knows what they are dealing with!

Let things run their course and keep your composure....

KindredKeely · 15/02/2022 15:43

You need to set an example to your baby and model "water off a ducks back". Otherwise your DC will grow up to be the type of person who sweats the small stuff and feels easily stressed out by other people's behaviour. Honestly there are far more important things in life in which to invest your energy. Perhaps try some meditation?

you need to just step away.

firm up what your personal boundaries are.

you're all in a tizz about relationships that ultimately you can.. well, just step back from.

you don't have to be best friends with your in laws. you just need to get along reasonably well.

you're involved in so much drama and all for, what?

it's like a soap opera. but one you don't have to actively pursue.

(i agree with you about posting pics of children without consent. not cool.)

but the drama, it's all optional.

Fluffycloudland77 · 15/02/2022 16:11

It’ll all unravel in the end, it always does. Just let them get on with it.

YungBludForPM · 15/02/2022 16:19

You don't need to DELETE her on social media, there are MUTE and SILENCE buttons on most of them for that exact reason, you won't see her stuff and she'll not know.
Just say your taking a break from social media for your own mental health!

Wilkolampshade · 15/02/2022 16:29

The function you need on Fb is to 'snooze' her. She'll not know and you won't see her posts.
Mute then archive conversations on WA.

ChargingBuck · 15/02/2022 16:38

I cant really delete her off social media as I couldnt be bothered with the drama

Oh stop it.
Mute, snooze & silence work perfectly well without deleting.
I'm beginning to suspect you are enjoying winding yourself up & have no intention of dialling down the contact with SiL.

StrictlySinging · 15/02/2022 16:41

Perhaps a bit of an odd dynamic going on with MIL and relationships.

When you were centre of attention before your partners brothers fiancé who had you deposed? Ie who was flavour of the month before you?

There may be a patters and like you, your partners brothers fiancé may just be appreciative of the attention. Maybe it’s them not her? Maybe it’s you not her?

Dynamics change and vet time.

StrictlySinging · 15/02/2022 16:41

Ha *over time

Midlifemusings · 15/02/2022 16:59

This sounds mostly like insecurity and jealousy.

Franklyfrost · 15/02/2022 17:08

I’m not sure what the sil has done wrong. You should have asked for rent if you were resentful of them staying for free. Otherwise it comes down to she’s on social media and gets on with most but not all people. Just let it go, accept you find her a bit annoying and don’t be territorial over who she can spend time with.

Sally872 · 15/02/2022 17:13

Cheeky of your bil to stay more than a few months without any rent and splashing cash elsewhere.

Annoying your in laws came round ASAP after baby born but sounds like they are excited. Unfortunate your family had covid.

Rude to be on phone on night out. Being drunk at family partied isn't the end of the world if not offending anyone sounds like most people don't mind.

From this post yabu. Accept she isn't your kind of person and pay less attention to her social media.

SaySomethingMan · 15/02/2022 17:21

She was very unreasonable posting photos of your baby without permission.
Everything else, you sound jealous I’m afraid. It’s not a good thing. You’re both in different places in your life and that’s fine

ManicPixie · 15/02/2022 17:43

Not reading all of that but then staying with you for 6 months rent free is absurd… and I lay the blame squarely at your fiancé for allowing it.

KindChick · 15/02/2022 18:23

I really get this. I would encourage you to put your energy into your relationship with DH and your lovely baby. Minimise contact with SIL and definitely mute her on social media as others have said. I doubt that other family members all think she is the life and should when she has had a few - most people get that it’s an attention thing. Maybe you and DH can invite MIL to do things with you and little one and that would help. It’s easy to get things out of perspective.

FM2013 · 15/02/2022 18:33

Sounds like sour grapes as you think you're not getting the attention you think you deserve from your in laws. I understand why you're mad about baby pics on social media but did you ask her not to post when she took them? Did you explain the situation and ask her to take them down?

parrotonthesofa · 15/02/2022 20:05

She sounds very annoying.

I'd just stop going on social media and try to see her a bit less.

Sounds like the rest of them love her though so you're stuck with her to sone extent.

MrsTimRiggins · 15/02/2022 20:15

God almighty, just mute her on social media. Her posting photos of your baby wasn’t okay but the rest is all so petty, particularly the rent issue for which the blame lies solely with your OH for being so daft as to tell his brother not to pay anything when you clearly needed it. You don’t really like her and there seems to be a certain level of weird competitive jealousy, but honestly life’s too short.

Crazycrazylady · 16/02/2022 09:42

Honestly a few niggles but you sound jealous of her. It's ok to own it, it's a very human emotion.
What's not ok though is trying to turn everyone else against her just because she annoys you.

LVS2627 · 16/02/2022 10:13

Thanks for everyone's replies.
Clearly ive come across as very jealous and petty as some people have put it.
Thanks to those for being understanding of my situation. I dont think I've explained things very well.

I agree my fiance should have said something to his brother about paying rent but that isn't even the main issue. The issue is they both had absolutely no respect for my house, I felt it was more like a hotel to them. Considering she was supposed to also be my friend I didn't appreciate this and felt hurt by their actions. I think when you're helping someone out just so they are able to move into their house the least they can do is show some respect. Isn't that just common decency ? I would just personally have more respect than that and to me it shows alot about their personality. The fact they where choosing to spend their money on anything but doing their own house up and then splashing pictures of this all over social media certainty didn't help and yes I admit this has led to alot of resentment towards them. My fiance worked alot of night shifts at the time and although he agreed their room was messy as hell he didn't see where I was coming from with everything else because he was never their to witness it. He also doesn't have social media. So he didn't feel the need to bring it up to his brother and cause any drama. Maybe I should have said something instead of letting it all build up I admit.

I dont think it's wrong of me to feel hurt that the dynamics have changed since she joined the family. I love my finances family and enjoy their company so clearly me feeling pushed out is going to hurt.

It's hard to explain what's happening over a mumsnet thread. There's alot more to this.
I have muted her on social media anyway so hopefully that will help things.

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DrinkFeckArseBrick · 16/02/2022 10:40

I agree with PP.

You can't do anything about how she acts, although she is annoying and probably not a very nice person, if she isnt doing anything directly to you then you cant say anything. Only thing I would say you can reasonably ask of her is to not post your babys pics on social media. You cant change her behaviour so you need to work on it not bothering you as much.

Mute her on social media. I'd try and distance myself from her as well. The whole family around annoying, your BiLs behaviour sounded shit as well and it's a bit odd your MiL loves someone pretending to be really drunk at family functions. If she loves spending time with your SiL, then that really says more about her. Have some confidence in yourself, you don't need the approval of someone with poor judgement. You sound almost like you were getting drawn into competing with her for attention. You're better than that, surely. If you want a better relationship with your MiL then you need to see her by herself a bit more and work on that separately. Invite her over for coffee or out for a walk or whatever you want to do together.

You also need to work with your husband to be on the same page regarding them. 6 months to live with you rent free is completely taking the piss and even the best relationships would be tested in this situation and he needs to acknowledge how much he was asking of you here

Colderthanever · 16/02/2022 10:48

i feel so resentful towards her and part of me wonders if Its just jealously

I have to be honest, a part of me is wondering that too. It does come across like that. Muting her is good and try to distance yourself for awhile. It’s not a competition between you and her. You don’t need to compare yourself, you both have your own qualities.

The reality is your own reactions and feelings are what’s pushing you out. Not her,

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