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Higher education students and data etc

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bubblesbubbles11 · 14/02/2022 14:05

FAD I do not have any children in higher education (yet).

What do you think about this - basically it is a nightclub with a booth in which there is CCTV and the nightclub attendees are encouraged to be as outrageous as they can be on the CCTV which is the published.

I can only assume there is some kind of consent given /disclaimer on the door before they enter the club etc and it doesn't look like they need much encouraging!.

Happy to be accused of being a prude etc although that was not really what this post is about (I was an undergraduate once but way before internet days).

What do you think of this and would you be ok if you saw footage of your own child being published on the internet like this?

www.facebook.com/CCTVDurham/videos/318822303461654

PS I assume it is not just durham uni where they have this - not checked but i am guessing it is some kind of franchise

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AchillesPoirot · 14/02/2022 14:18

They’re adults and will have consented?

It’s stupid to do it but students do daft things.

Seeline · 14/02/2022 14:25

Surely they wouldn't go in to the booth if they weren't consenting? It's not as if there is secret filming throughout the whole club?

bubblesbubbles11 · 14/02/2022 14:29

Of course it is not secret - watching the footage I am guessing it is the exact exhibitionist nature of it which is appealing and makes them go / go back.

I was thinking more in terms of the footage catching what was later deemed to be sexual assault (ref consent etc) doing stuff in the heat of the moment/whilst drunk etc - and having undeniable evidence of that on footage which gets published to the world.

Also all that stuff where public figures get this type of data dragged up years later etc. I realise it was always thus but this feels on a whole other level

I dunno. Not sure what I am trying to say - I assume they are all over 18 and the club will have published exactly what they are agreeing to loud and clear at the entrance.

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jimmyhill · 14/02/2022 14:32

If my adult "child" did that I'd think they were unwise but I'd also think they were old enough to make their own choice

blueshoes · 14/02/2022 14:34

As a parent, I won't be happy but at least the students are not being identified by name. I am thinking of a situation where they are interviewing for a job and this turns up on their social media but if they are not identified by name, then it is less of a concern.

I am uncomfortable with the idea of a club using its patron's image in this way to publicise itself on facebook. Clearly there is a alcohol being imbibed and the students' judgment would be somewhat impaired added with young people egging each other on, will make the students take more risks than usual.

It feels like a form of exploitation and ... wrong.

blueshoes · 14/02/2022 14:36

One of the videos appeared to have a girl's top pulled up and her breasts exposed but blurred. Who censored the image? What if they did not?

bubblesbubbles11 · 14/02/2022 17:10

its maybe because their facebook blurb expressly says:
"CCTV™… a name which, when uttered, brings back an avalanche of memories from a night you barely remember but a following morning that you'll never forget.....
Be Warned... Durham we're coming for you.....
PRIMETIME ENTERTAINMENT"

i.e. they acknowledge most people are going to be so drunk they won't remember what they did inspite of the overwhelming footage. Obviously most people on the planet have once in their life forgotten something because they were drunk but having it on facebook seems, like a previous poster says, like it is mainly about the nightclub promotion and nothing about the customers who are there (tho they won't realise that at the time)

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YeOldeTrout · 14/02/2022 19:02

OP's perspective is too much headfuck for me.

I see a bunch of high spirited people having fun & being proud of their bodies & sexual expression. If you tell me that you KNOW that someone was in the footage who didn't consent to be snogged and feels that amounts to sexual assault , then ok, I hope they get the resolution they want from that realisation.

EishetChayil · 14/02/2022 19:05

What a world we live in where being proud of one's body means getting your baps out in a seedy night club for cheap thrills!

bubblesbubbles11 · 14/02/2022 20:19

"I see a bunch of high spirited people having fun & being proud of their bodies & sexual expression"

of course.
That is what I see too.

But it is the first two words of your sentence I am quetioning, not necessarily the rest of your sentence.

Sure almost all young people do this type of stuff at some point, but not all will have it posted forevermore via facebook etc - the disclaimer on their website is v wide ranging (understandably) but the CCTV business head up their disclaimer "the boring bit" - which I guess it is, but might not be so boring if it goes horribly wrong for someone now or in the future.

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