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To think he shouldn't have been in an open prison?

39 replies

KookaburraSits · 14/02/2022 11:23

news.upday.com/uk/manhunt-launched-for-sex-offender-who-presents-danger-to-women-and-children/?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral

Newcastle-born Robson was jailed at Oxford Crown Court in 2000 after he entered a woman’s home through a cat flap before tying her up, putting a pillow case over her head, and brutally assaulting her while holding a knife to her throat.

"He had only been released from prison three weeks before the attack and was on licence – with the sentencing judge describing him as a “menace to females”.

Open prisons are meant for rehabilitation and "are only for prisoners considered a low risk to the public" and yet police have stated, "Robson is a dangerous sex offender and while he presents a particular danger to women and young children, I believe he can cause real harm to anyone he comes across.

“If you see Robson, please do not approach him, and do not try to apprehend him yourself. Call 999 immediately."

Why was he in an open prison if they still saw him as a danger?

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MaitreKarlsson · 14/02/2022 14:17

Yes this is madness. Surely exactly the sort of convict who shouldn't be eligible to be in an open prison. @lucillelarusso your comment is spot on.

WomanWomenGirlsFemale · 14/02/2022 14:28

I think that the people responsible for putting him in an open prison should join him at the bottom of a very deep body of water whilst wearing concrete boots.

jcyclops · 14/02/2022 15:49

What I find troubling is that when HMP North Sea Camp was inspected last year, the report said 70% of inmates were assessed as “presenting a high risk of harm to others” and more than half were convicted of sex offences.

I really, really hope that the MoJ and prison authorities are not transferring inmates to Open Prisons just because normal prisons are overcrowded, and ignoring the dangers they pose.

SweatyAmy · 14/02/2022 16:47

It's absolutely horrifying. I grew up in Boston and there have been loads of escaped prisoners from HMP North Sea Camp, including other sex offenders.

No-one that dangerous to women and girls should have been there.

Adarajames · 14/02/2022 16:54

There was the usual putting of own safety responsibility back on women / girls in one local I read, said police were advising not to venture out alone whilst he is loose. Once more we have to limit our lives because men can’t be trusted to be decent human beings! FFS!

orio · 14/02/2022 17:24

@watcherintherye

he entered a woman’s home through a cat flap

ShockShockShockShock

There must be more to it than that? Like he reached through the cat flap to access keys. Surely?

I naively thought open prisons were for crooked accountants. Apparently not.

I really hope so? It's absolutely terrifying otherwise, right? Poor poor women.
JohnStonesMissus · 14/02/2022 17:31

YANBU, it happens more than you realise, Ford open prison is about 8 miles from me and they regularly put CAT A offenders in there, only fairly recently there was a prisoner who escaped who was inside for attempted murder, rape and intimidation, fucking unbelievable...

Adarajames · 14/02/2022 17:35

Having a cat flap can weaken the integrity of the door in general, so he could probably have kicked it through and made the hole bigger without too much effort. I had someone break in in a similar manner

RoseRedRoseBlue · 14/02/2022 18:24

@jcyclops

What I find troubling is that when HMP North Sea Camp was inspected last year, the report said 70% of inmates were assessed as “presenting a high risk of harm to others” and more than half were convicted of sex offences.

I really, really hope that the MoJ and prison authorities are not transferring inmates to Open Prisons just because normal prisons are overcrowded, and ignoring the dangers they pose.

Open prisons are full of high risk prisoners as it’s where they go to prepare for release. Transfer to open conditions has nothing whatsoever to do with overcrowding.
MangyInseam · 14/02/2022 18:58

Prisoners near the end of their time are going to be out soon anyway, even if they are dangerous. Not many will be able to be kept in permanently.

Preparing them for release in a place like this isn't the real issue, it's that people like that aren't really going to become less risky, at least not generally until they are quite elderly and maybe not then. There can be some advantage to having them in a somewhat controlled environment, it may be less possible for them to completely disappear.

AlexCabot · 17/02/2022 12:49

In case anybody hasn't seen the news, he has been caught. He was in Skegness which really isn't that far from the prison at all.

RishiRich · 17/02/2022 13:05

@MedusasBadHairDay

Is this another "not considered a risk to the general public", where they mean general public to mean men?
Exactly this. It's also sickening that such monstrous men are released when they're deemed sufficiently old and frail not to present a risk. No one gives two hoots about the overwhelmingly female carers put in a vulnerable position with them.

Thank goodness this particular man has been caught.

2Gen · 17/02/2022 13:14

They said he presents a particular danger to women but then said they didn't belive he'd do any harm??? They literally contradicted themslevs in one or two breaths! That's disgusting!
I have heard about this sort of thing too many times over the years and it makes my blood boil! Of course he should never have been in an open prison! IMO, the likes of him should be locked away for life in special secure units to protect women and children from them completely but then, the safety of women and children has never been made the priority it should be, has it? Some of those in high office have some very strange and even warped views! Anyway, I am old enough to know that my opinion would carry no weight with them on such matters! I'm only a random woman, my opinion doesn't count!
Shame on the authorities for this! Every attack he commits, they are partly to blame! I wish we could hold them accountable and ensure they get the punishment they deserve but know it will never happen! Sickening!

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 17/02/2022 13:27

Just wait til he realises he can identify as a woman, blame all his previous violence to women on his unresolved struggles with his gender identity, and get himself moved to a women's prison.

All of which has been done by other sex offenders, in case anyone thinks "well that would never happen".

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