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Would it be unreasonable to go NC with my parents? (TW: child abuse)

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ChickentheChinese · 10/02/2022 15:05

I have NC for this purely because I don’t want this sorrowful crap attached to my main account where I talk about things that really matter. Like oven cleaner and parking diagrams.

This is a story for those that enjoy a bit of misery fiction. (Angela’s Ashes anyone?) Except, it isn’t fiction. It isn’t even dramatised. It is my life. But read on if you like a bit of that, and if you’d like to see me rises from the ashes, like a mothertrucking phoenix!! 🔥

I am low contact with my family. Why am I not no contact? I don’t know. It’s not always so easy and somewhere deep down I’m still the 9 year old girl that just wants to be loved by the people that made her.

I was raised by my mother and her second husband whom I have always considered to be my dad. My biological father hasn’t met me since I was a baby. I don’t know if we left him or he left us. The story is the latter but my mother is a compulsive liar.

Most of my own “backstory” is lies. For years, even my own name was a lie. My mother will lie and lie to protect her own image. I have never known up from down with her, and in my teens I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what was true.
It was in my twenties that I stopped trying and just made a choice to care less.
I thought it was about time that my self image stopped being so intrinsically linked to hers.

We lived (from age 4) in a large, beautiful, period property in a good area. It was a gift to my mother from her own parents who were wealthy, withdrawn and cold themselves.

My childhood was abusive. I was an inconvenience and would be locked in my room for hours and hours with no access to water or to a toilet. I would be punished if I urinated anywhere else. (Don’t ask. I still feel humiliated by the lengths I went to to relieve myself and then hide the evidence)

I do have siblings who are not halflings like me, but are biologically related to both of my parents. They were treated like royalty. I would help to care for them. From the age of 9 I would routinely be left home alone with them whilst they were infants; both in the day time, whilst my parents worked and at night when they went out with friends.
I loved my siblings dearly and showed them a lot of affection.
I also have an older sibling, my mother’s first born, whom she abandoned into care, and my only “full” biological sibling. I have met them a few times but we have no relationship. They are resentful of me and I feel guilty for them.

At 16 I got my first job whilst studying for my A levels. My parents charged me rent which swallowed most of what I earned but I saved the rest.

I left home a few days after my 18th birthday and moved 110 miles away. My dad gave me a lift but he charged me for the petrol. I would call home occasionally and would be met with a cold response.

I got a degree and started a graduate placement which was just 20 miles from where I grew up. So I moved back to the area and rented a small flat.
My flat was so small that I could touch both walls of my living room at once. I couldn’t afford a telly or a microwave for the first year.

I lived there for 2 years and counted the pennies meticulously. I saved every spare bit of money I had to afford driving lessons and, eventually, my first car. It took me a long time to learn because I could only afford an hour a week and I was an anxious driver. I was on £18,000 per year.

Now 23, I fell in “love” and got married to a man that didn’t treat me well. He didn’t ever hurt me but he used me. Cheated, stole from me and eventually left me. I was heartbroken and financially ruined by him.

I started again at 28. By now I had moved jobs and was earning a solid £30,000. I had to commute a long way for work and it was relentless but worth it. I bought a little house. I still saved everything I didn’t spend.

Soon after I met my now- husband. I truly fell in love this time.
Eventually I sold my little house and he sold his little house and together we bought a “big” house. (It’s not very big. 😅)
Now I’m 35 and we live in our gorgeous house which is filled to the brim with children, cats, laughter and Monster Munch 🤤. My salary is a comfortable £40,000. It could be higher but I took some stoppage for kids. My husband earns £50,000.
This is in no way a humble brag. This is a full brag - I have a wonderful family and a good life and when I stop to really think about it, it moves me to tears.

My parents are still vile. Their vileness has climbed to new heights.
They perceive that I have succeeded them at the Game of Life, and they’re angry at me for it.

Although I am pleased with my salary and my home, it would be wrong to say I am more comfortable than them. They were gifted a house (with no mortgage) and they are much older than me.

Not only is their jealousy a nasty thing to behold, but it’s also baseless.

For the first time, we invited them to spend Christmas with us and they did, partially. But they left early to spend the rest with my sibling who is their golden child.

They asked what they could bring and I suggested perhaps some nice beer, as I hadn’t bought much proper beer and one of my (other) siblings enjoys craft beer very much.

They arrived with 6 cans of ordinary Budweiser. I put them in the fridge and didn’t mention it.

They availed themselves of our hospitality and in exchange brought us small token gifts. Nothing thoughtful. The sort of tat you would give in a secret Santa.

My children also received token £10 gifts and then had to watch my nephew receive an enormous present that must have cost hundreds of pounds.
We thanked them for what we had received and I didn’t mention it.

However, my parents wanted me to mention it. And when I didn’t… they brought it up themselves!

They explained that as I am now a “kept woman”, because I’ve “married into money”, they will be focusing their efforts on my siblings instead.
They went on to say that they feel they are “done” with me, because I have “made it” and now they will concentrate on helping my siblings achieve the same.
They finished with “we don’t see why we should have to spend our money on your family of millionaires”

Ouch. Merry Christmas you filthy animals.

I didn’t cry or squawk. I just acknowledged what they had said by reiterating my thanks for our gifts. They left soon after. (Then I cried)

Anyway, I have now heard through the family grapevine that I am apparently not in their will. And haven’t been for some time.

I don’t want their horrible money but this whole thing especially sticks in my craw, as I am the named executor of their estate! (CF or what?) When I agreed to this, little did I know I would be administering a will from which I have been completely excluded. 🤯 (I know I can refuse to do this when they die.)

Anyway, that’s my story. And finally I am considering cutting them out completely. Finally. It won’t be a big shift physically, I only see them 2 or 3 times a year. But it’s obviously a hugely emotional thing to do; to completely cut off one’s own parents.

Any words of encouragement would be greatly appreciated. Please no nasties. I know I sound upbeat but I feel pretty low about all of this.

Thanks for listening.

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CanIPleaseHaveOne · 10/02/2022 20:25

Final thought from me re their Will. I would never mention anything and I would never give them any excuse for the appaling trick they are pulling (ie stay on as executor, but pull out on the day if you like).
Let their nastiness stand in full view.

willieversleep · 10/02/2022 20:31

You might not be a millionaire finically but they are right you have succeeded them in life. You have love, morals and the right to remove them and their abuse from your life! I wouldn't ever give them an opportunity to belittle my children again. Well done you

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 10/02/2022 20:36

Yanbu.
They abused you when you were a child
You cry after seeing them
There is literally nothing positive in this relationship.

And even if you had married a millionaire it takes a special kind of shitbag to deliberately leave some grandkids out right infront of others.

ButtockUp · 10/02/2022 20:37

What a post!
That you have emerged from this toxicity to now have a wonderfully balanced view of live is fantastic.

I'm not convinced that you really need our opinions as you KNOW what you need to do.
However, as you are so empathetic you want some supporting opinions.

You've had some super advice on here.
I'd just like to add that you might like to visit a solicitor to get out of being executor. I'm not convinced that sitting back is an option.
A solicitor might be able to send a letter to your parents' solicitor to convey your wishes.

Given your story, it's very interesting that you were chosen as executor. It almost sounds like they wanted to 'rub your nose in it' as it were.
There's obviously no way that you actually know if you aren't mentioned in their will, as you only have hearsay but it might be sensible to err on the side of caution.

Definitely get legally removed from executor duties, if you can, if only to move forward with your life.
💐

ChickentheChinese · 10/02/2022 20:45

@ButtockUp your username is exceptional!

They have definitely made me executor because they think it'll be the final "fuck you" from beyond the grave.

My preliminary research tells me that I can just nope out of it when they finally do one and I'm not bound by anything.

I only ever agreed to do it out of obligation. Fear, Obligation and Guilt are how they operate.

A few years ago now I had a very weird conversation with my mother where she explained to me that if you want to cut a person out of your will, you leave them a "token amount" that means they can't dispute. At the time I just brushed it off as her being a bit disturbed and perpetually obsessed with litigation and money. Perhaps it was a hint. 😅

OP posts:
ButtockUp · 10/02/2022 20:59

I therefore recommend ‘noping out’ then.

And I am so sorry that your parents have left you feeling like this.

Good luck OP.

redambergreengo · 10/02/2022 21:03

I've you are brave enough to go NC do that. Sending hugs x

redambergreengo · 10/02/2022 21:06

Ps your mother is correct what she said about the Will and leaving someone a small amount rather than completely excluding. This is so that if it were contested the argument would be that they had included you not disinherited you so I think you're right in thinking they've done this to you. Vile people.

Suzanne999 · 10/02/2022 21:14

Are you sure your parents aren’t my parents ? ( Except mine are dead )

It beggars belief that parents can treat their own child like this, but they do. I was told as a child it was pointless sending girls to University as they just got married and had children. It really pissed her off that I went to Uni but just before my graduation she phoned to tell me I hadn’t got a real degree like my brother, he said mine was “ just a certificate”. Where does this bizarre jealousy come from?
They ran me down to every relative they could ( God knows what they said ) to the point my godmother cut me from her will. Obviously I wasn’t in either parents will.

Stay quiet about being their executor. And when the time comes just send a letter that you’re not able to do it. Beneficiaries will then have to pay for an executor ( I hope)

Wash your hands of them, they’re not worth your tears. You have a lovely , warm family — your family. You don’t need your parents.

Teaandtoastedbiscuits · 10/02/2022 21:16

Well done you for what you have achieved x . Its v hard to go nc as that in itself is giving them a reaction, lc gives them less to say about you but for your own self worth and I would definitely go nc. You have a house full of people who love your bones and that is worth it's worth in gold. Fwiw you seem like an incredible person and like someone said upthread I don't have a clue who you are but on reading your opening post I am so so proud of you x

ladygindiva · 10/02/2022 21:21

I just want to tell you sound fucking amazing. What you've been through and where you've managed to get yourself. And yes I would go complete NC if I was you.

KatyRebecca84 · 10/02/2022 21:23

You write so well, although I’m sad you have such a tragic story to tell!
Be proud of how well you’ve done for yourself and the family you have raised. Do all you can to treat your children the way you wish your parents had treated you and then cut them off. They do not deserve any more of your time. I wish you a happy future x

something2say · 10/02/2022 21:24

You've had some lovely posts, and you deserve them xxx

From me, this.

No contact gets a LOT easier. Its finished, no more. If YOU take responsibility for it by avoiding and sliding nicely away fro. any contact attempts from them, it fades away and good years rack up one after another. Never underestimate the healing power of safe ongoing years. I'm sorry you were born to such a sad story and the sooner you can get away for good, the better xx

olympicsrock · 10/02/2022 21:24

Horrible
Horrible
Horrible

Please go NC.

Well done for being happy and independent and strong.
They don’t deserve you in their lives. You will be so much better within it them.

I am NC with a parent. You need to be very clear with siblings that this decision is non negotiable and that they need to respect it or else you will have nothing to do with them either.

Concentrate on your own nuclear family . Hugs

LuaDipa · 10/02/2022 21:25

They are horrible people, but you can see how much your success bothers them when you consider the lengths they go to to bring you down. They can’t stand the fact that you have succeeded on your own. You don’t need them and they can’t bear it. Just remember that. None of this has anything to do with you, and everything to do with them. You are better off out of it.

You have your own family now and a home filled with love. Something they will never understand. Let go of them and their toxicity so you can focus on the things that matter.

hangrylady · 10/02/2022 21:27

You're awesome, they're cunts. You have your own family now to focus on, let them stew in their own bitterness and jealousy.

Mischance · 10/02/2022 21:31

What do you need them for? You have shown that you can manage just fine without them. Well done!

Totalwasteofpaper · 10/02/2022 21:40

@something2say

You've had some lovely posts, and you deserve them xxx

From me, this.

No contact gets a LOT easier. Its finished, no more. If YOU take responsibility for it by avoiding and sliding nicely away fro. any contact attempts from them, it fades away and good years rack up one after another. Never underestimate the healing power of safe ongoing years. I'm sorry you were born to such a sad story and the sooner you can get away for good, the better xx

This.

I never looked back from NC.

It got easier and easier and without the wound being constantly picked at and reopened I was able to start healing meaningfully.
It sounds like you have already done a huge amount of legwork and are free of the majority of the bullshit.
Money as control is game I am verrry familiar with.

Cocogreen · 10/02/2022 21:51

You've made a wonderful life and family and you reserve every minute of it.
Definitely go NC, but I would let them know beforehand that you refuse to be their executor and if they don't change that responsibility now you will do it after they're dead.
Best of luck to you. My husband went NC with his toxic parents about 9 years ago ( he's 58) and he now says he should have done it 20 years before.

Cocogreen · 10/02/2022 21:52

deserve

UserError012345 · 11/02/2022 06:57

I suspect there's also a lot more to your story that you haven't been able to mention / buried.

I'd say NC now. Do it and you'll feel liberated. They are not family and 'died' (so to speak) a long time ago.

Despite the travesty of your childhood, you have thrived and created a happy, healthy, successful family and career. It could have so easily gone another way but your determination & perseverance to be nothing like them has driven you to where you are now.

You have the right / permission to cut them out. It's time.

Namechangehereandnow · 11/02/2022 10:48

[quote ChickentheChinese]@ButtockUp your username is exceptional!

They have definitely made me executor because they think it'll be the final "fuck you" from beyond the grave.

My preliminary research tells me that I can just nope out of it when they finally do one and I'm not bound by anything.

I only ever agreed to do it out of obligation. Fear, Obligation and Guilt are how they operate.

A few years ago now I had a very weird conversation with my mother where she explained to me that if you want to cut a person out of your will, you leave them a "token amount" that means they can't dispute. At the time I just brushed it off as her being a bit disturbed and perpetually obsessed with litigation and money. Perhaps it was a hint. 😅[/quote]
You do just opt out, it’s a simple tick box. Don’t tell them in advance, just do it at the time, leave the shit for your siblings to deal with.

ChelBelle · 11/02/2022 10:57

You are an amazing woman to come out of your family so level headed and sane. It sounds like you have a beautiful home and family. You don't need your parents toxic traits in your life no more. As hard as it is emotionally move on. Concentrate on you and the ones that matter. As you said "you are a mother fucking phoenix". Rise out of the ashes and be who you want a strong confident woman with a fabulous family around you. cxx

GeneParmesanPrivateEye · 11/02/2022 11:06

Don't write them a letter which can be kept and used to eternally fuel more drama.

Write one and keep it, so if/when they try to hook you back in later on, you can remind yourself why you're NC.

THEN, write your 9 yr old self a letter. Write to that sad little girl and tell her that she's going to be ok, and that life is going to get really, really good. Tell her that she IS loved and held and her house will be filled with laughter, love, kids, cats and monster munch. Flowers

PigeonLittle · 11/02/2022 11:22

They are vile. In your circumstances you absolutely owe them NC but I would be tempted to go low contact instead and "grey rock" them rather than drag yourself into further drama just ignore them and send minimal gifts at Christmas. Certainly don't extend them any hospitality.

You deserve your mother to tell you how proud she is of you and everything you've achieved. I'm not your mum, but I am a Mum and it's the best I can do...

I'm so proud of you Flowers