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AIBU with OHs family?

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gloss234 · 07/02/2022 11:38

Hi, I’m not really sure what I want from this post but I feel like I need some kind of advice/ vent/ need to know I’m not alone in feeling this way.

I feel like I’m drowning in life is the only way I can describe it. To the outside world my life is going nicely , twin 5 year old DS, a loving partner who does his fair share and works very hard for us. I am a SAHM but also study full time with the OU and am in the final year of a bachelors degree. We have a nice home, however it was always a starter home and we have now outgrown but don’t have the money to move. We have a rescue dog, the full lovely picture but I’m not happy.

I feel incredibly guilty everyday for not loving my life. I do love my children with everything I am but parenting is not what I thought and I feel in a constant state of overwhelm and underwhelm with life. My OH would like to have another child and I’m not fully opposed to this (obviously not while feeling like this) however it would mean me staying at home after my degree finishes because of how ridiculous childcare is in our area (even if we could afford it there is not enough childcare to go around). It also makes me feel my degree and all the hard work I’ve put in to it would be for nothing (although I already feel I will be able to do very little with it in any case) but then feel this intense feeling of a ticking clock when it comes to having more children even though I’m only 28. This decision is also made more complex by one of my twins being on the autism diagnosis pathway. His needs may or may not become more complex as he gets older and obviously another child or possibly another two (non-identical twins) feels unfair on him and them.

I love my family but I feel like a complete zombie. My children sleep well and I get enough sleep but I feel immense pressure to be everything for them and to them while feeling like I’m going insane and that I have no life of my own, no wants and needs of my own. I live in a constant state of thinking what I should be doing for others.
When people say have a bath and have some me time. I do get that, it never feels enough, it never stops the feeling of constant overwhelm/ underwhelm of life.
Coupled with the intense feeling of guilt that I’m not enjoying my little boys, I love them so so much but I miss having a life of my own.
This is massively exacerbated by my OHs overbearing and judgemental family. Every move I make is discussed and criticised by them and I’m aware this has taken a huge tole on me and how I think about life. I feel trapped though because I love my OH but not his family. Me and OHs sister have a very complex relationship, she is one of my closest friends but also reports what I say to her mum and step mum who both critique me hugely. OH family also add pressure in different ways because OH Mum and step dad live one hour away and OH dad, sister and step mum live over 4 hours away from us. They still expect to see us regularly. This adds so much pressure as I feel as though I’m always letting others down because now DTs are older and want to do clubs/ see friends/ birthday parties on the weekend, it means we have little time to travel all over the country visiting family on the weekends and they all make it abundantly clear how much they want to see us and this makes me feel intense pressure to fit it in somewhere. Despite feeling uncomfortable in their company due to every move I make being examined. OHs sister does make effort to see us despite having a small child herself which I am great full for and the truth is we could have her stay but that would mean allowing my house up for critique, my safe haven and I just don’t want to, this makes me feel even more guilty.

This is made even more complex by my relationship with my own family which is strained at the best of times because of a horrible childhood which I still haven’t forgiven my mother or sister for. They’re amazing to DTs though so I keep contact open for them. But again they live over an hour away and they want to see DTs but aren’t as overbearing with their demands to see us as OHs family.

We’ve just come home from a whole weekend spent with OHs family which will only keep them at bay for two weeks at most.

Sometimes and it pains me to say this because I love my DTs more than anything, but sometimes I just want to give up. I feel like they’d all be happier without me. I feel like I’m stopping everyone from being happy because I’m so miserable all the time for no apparent reason. I feel very lonely which I know will be the main cause of me feeling the way I do but I can’t reach out to anyone (I will often make dates with friends and then come up with an excuse to cancel because I can’t cope with the effort involved in seeing them and also don’t want them to see how miserable I am and cba with the effort of acting happy) because the effort that it takes to connect with people is just not something I have. So I go round in this constant cycle of feeling very detached from people but also isolating myself. It’s a horrible existence and not something I would wish on my worst enemy. I desperately want things to get better but it feels hopeless at this point.

If you’ve got this far, thank you. Like I say I’m not sure in the point to this but it feels good to let it all out to strangers for some weird reason.
P.s have put this in a few other threads but have been advised to put here due to more traffic.

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SeaToSki · 07/02/2022 11:45

You poor thing, that must be such a burden to carry every day. Have you discussed all this with your DH? If you havent, I suggest you do and try and look at things from strategic perspective (so not fix it for today or tomorrow, but look at the overall chess pieces). Maybe fixing the childcare problem should be a priority so you can find a job you love, maybe DH sorting out his critical family….
I also think it might be a good idea for you to see a therapist so you have some personal support, you do sound like you might have some depression and being able to unload on a neutral person might be very helpful. I hope you can find a way through, it doesnt sound like a pleasant way to live and you only get one life…

gloss234 · 07/02/2022 12:04

@SeaToSki

You poor thing, that must be such a burden to carry every day. Have you discussed all this with your DH? If you havent, I suggest you do and try and look at things from strategic perspective (so not fix it for today or tomorrow, but look at the overall chess pieces). Maybe fixing the childcare problem should be a priority so you can find a job you love, maybe DH sorting out his critical family…. I also think it might be a good idea for you to see a therapist so you have some personal support, you do sound like you might have some depression and being able to unload on a neutral person might be very helpful. I hope you can find a way through, it doesnt sound like a pleasant way to live and you only get one life…
Thank you seaToski, yes DH knows and we have discussed although perhaps I'm not so much detail. I know I'm depressed, it's very apparent. I've taken the DTs to school this morning got back and just lay in bed! I've eaten chicken wings and a whole tub of Ben and Jerrys ice cream for lunch and now will probably sleep for two hours untill OH gets home. Get dinner on, do homework, sort stuff for tomorrow and then bed! It's no life what so ever and I feel like a complete waste. It's no one's fault but my own, I just can't pull myself out anymore
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CityMumma78 · 07/02/2022 12:04

Hello OP, I think you need to put you and your family first… so first off there should be a huge reduction in OH family visits!!! Weekends should be about indulging your boys and having precious time together, whether that is in relation to clubs, play dates or parties, going to the park or having a mooch at home playing with toys and watching films, not traipsing around various homes where you feel on edge. There is no way I’d spend that much time with my own family let alone my husband’s!!! The constant upheaval of weekend visits to see family you are not comfortable with is having a huge impact on your mental well-being. Just say no.
Perhaps seeing your GP and asking for some medication to temporarily get you back on track would help as well as making plans to see friends and sticking to those arrangements. It’s normal to feel exhausted of an evening and easier to stay in but if you make an effort to get out and socialise I promise you will feel so much better for it. Also don’t feel pressured into having another baby!
At the moment you have your boys, OH, a dog, annoying and judgmental family and a degree course with very little free weekend down time so feeling overwhelmed and fed up is perfectly normal and there are things within your control that can change for the better.
Be kind to yourself - you have twins which is hard work and you have been studying for a degree which is absolutely amazing and such an achievement. Good luck with everything (and don’t be afraid to say no x)!

Leighcloon · 07/02/2022 12:09

Just start approaching life with 'What do I get out of this?' as your primary question for a while. Focus on your studies. In your shoes I wouldn't have another child if you would really have to stay at home -- I think being a SAHP suits very few people, and contributes massively to rates of depression. And tell the ILs you're not travelling for the moment, you have too much else on. Or your OH can travel with your children, and you stay at home and study or relax.

bigbird50 · 07/02/2022 12:11

This whole situation is affecting your mental health. This is not good for you or your children. I think you need to go and see your GP and seek some support and ask for counselling. You need to get your OH on side and explain that things need to change. (and stop sharing information with his sister)

Onlyhuman123 · 07/02/2022 12:13

You sound very down and unhappy; I'm sorry. I remember feeling like this after my DS and was diagnosed with post natal depression after having a chat with my GP. So I would suggest you make an appointment with your GP to have a chat about how you're feeling, perhaps they can offer medication along with talking therapy/CBT to help get yourself out of the never ending spiral. I hope you manage to get some help. Oh, and never mind what OH's family 'expect' from you; it's what will work for you and your OH together as a unit.

CatherinedeBourgh · 07/02/2022 12:13

I would detach from your dh’s family. Let your dh take the dc there every so often, you stay at home and take care of yourself.

gloss234 · 07/02/2022 12:13

@bigbird50

This whole situation is affecting your mental health. This is not good for you or your children. I think you need to go and see your GP and seek some support and ask for counselling. You need to get your OH on side and explain that things need to change. (and stop sharing information with his sister)
The thing is if I stop speaking about my life with OHs sister I will have no one else to talk to.
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Cherrysoup · 07/02/2022 12:20

You need to pull back on the visits. Every two weeks is crazy, particularly with a step parent visit plus visit to OH’s mum plus your parents. Tell everyone you’re knackered and you’ll see them less often. How are you meant to fit in visits to 3 sets of parents/step-parents?

Maybe your OH can go without you sometimes? Stop pressuring yourself to make all these visits. What time is left for your dc to see friends and have hobbies?

Re your sil reporting to your mil, I think I’d bollock her arse, it’s totally unacceptable. I know you say there’s nobody else to talk to, but she’s being really unfair.

ISmellBurnings · 07/02/2022 12:24

I think you need to…

Not have another baby right now.
Go see the GP and get some help/medication. It is really ok to do this! Accept help.
Stop running around trying to squeeze in family visits, it’s ridiculous.
Stop trying to please everyone.
Talk to your DH!

theremustonlybeone · 07/02/2022 12:28

gloss234 but she isnt your friend, she is sharing what you say with others and there being critical. This is not helping you. You need to explore other ways of seeking RL support.

Summersnake · 07/02/2022 12:32

I can relate to a lot of what you said ,I’ve 2 children with autism,and I’m on the waiting list to be diagnosed with autism,but I know I’ve got it .
Might be worth a thought for you ?

gloss234 · 07/02/2022 12:35

@Summersnake

I can relate to a lot of what you said ,I’ve 2 children with autism,and I’m on the waiting list to be diagnosed with autism,but I know I’ve got it . Might be worth a thought for you ?
Thank you for your understanding. I don't think I have autism, possibly ADD although not sure what it would add to my life getting a diagnosis at this stage, also it's hard to know if anything I experience is due to possible ADD or depression. Everything's so muddled up
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lifesnotaspectatorsport · 07/02/2022 12:43

I really feel for you OP. What you've written about withdrawing from people even though you're lonely, about getting home and just not being able to make yourself do anything has all the hallmarks of depression. I've had episodes like this since having my 3 kids (including twins - which is never easy) and honestly the best thing I did was go to the GP and get some antidepressants. I was so reluctant, embarrassed, worried about addiction ... but you know, a fortnight later I felt so much better. Like my old self, like I could deal with things. I've taken them for a few months and then stopped when I feel back on an even keel. Something to consider.

With OH's family, I would get him to speak to them and set realistic expectations - and then arrange those visits himself. Your twins are 5 now so maybe each of you take them for an activity for an hour or so at the weekend while the other has some downtime. Make a real plan for what you'll do with your degree. Focus on how things can change. I would definitely not go down the baby route now, you need to be in a happier place. The clock is barely ticking at 28, I had my first baby at 37 Wink

SpiderVersed · 07/02/2022 13:00

You’re judging yourself very harshly, and are shouldering more burdens than you need. If a friend spoke this way about herself, how would you respond?

Don’t have another child right now. You need to finish your degree and get out in the world for a bit. Being a SAHM can be extremely isolating and it definitely doesn’t suit a lot of women. There’s no shame in that, it doesn’t mean your children are any less important to you or you’re thinking of them less!

You can self-refer via IAPT for counselling or CBT. I found the latter incredibly helpful - I learned not to give a toss for other people’s views of my parenting and housekeeping. I also stepped back from accommodating the in-laws and left those negotiations to DH, which was an enormous relief.

I really feel for you. Flowers

gloss234 · 07/02/2022 14:43

@SpiderVersed

You’re judging yourself very harshly, and are shouldering more burdens than you need. If a friend spoke this way about herself, how would you respond?

Don’t have another child right now. You need to finish your degree and get out in the world for a bit. Being a SAHM can be extremely isolating and it definitely doesn’t suit a lot of women. There’s no shame in that, it doesn’t mean your children are any less important to you or you’re thinking of them less!

You can self-refer via IAPT for counselling or CBT. I found the latter incredibly helpful - I learned not to give a toss for other people’s views of my parenting and housekeeping. I also stepped back from accommodating the in-laws and left those negotiations to DH, which was an enormous relief.

I really feel for you. Flowers

Another child is definitely not happening now. I would add that pressure to my self. I'm just looking at the future.
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londonmummy1966 · 07/02/2022 16:35

Couldn't read and run as this sounds like me when mine were a little bit younger (and it would have been like me when they were 5 if I hadn't got help for my depression). First, if you are depressed then you are ill and need the rest and recuperation you'd need if you had any other illness. So go and see your GP and ask for help. Best thing I ever did. Then explain to your DH that you are just not well enough to be running round the country every other weekend and that it is also not fair on the DC if they are missing out on clubs etc. Family visits should be at start and finish of holidays from now on when clubs aren't running with the occasional extra. You shouldn't be going on all of them either so you get a rest and a break.

Also see if you could make a friend or two at the school gate - if you get some free weekends you could study then to make some time to socialise in the week. That way you build up a local support network.

But 5 year olds are hard work even without the autism and you need to recognise that you are working really hard and that if something doesn't give then you will break. Clearly the constant in law visits are the easiest option.

Flowers for you

billy1966 · 07/02/2022 17:17

Your post is both distressing and upsetting to read.

WTF?

A lot of people would be in the midst of a full on mental breakdown enduring what you have written.

Be very careful, because it sounds like you are half way there.

First off, no more children.
Completely OFF the table.

Stop visiting ANY family for an extended amount of time.

Stop telling his awful sister ANYTHING.

Get yourself to the doctor ASAP and tell the truth about how awful you feel.

Tell your OH EXACTLY how serious things are and that he is NOT to mention his family again, until YOU ask about them.

Tell him you NEVER want to hear their opinion on you EVER again.

Reduce contact with your own family.

Your boys need you well.
Everything else is secondary.

You sound utterly amazing to have been studying while raising twins. Amazing.

Now you desperately need a break from ALL travel and his family.

Please mind yourself and start listening to what your body is screaming at you.

Flowers
Chloemol · 07/02/2022 17:18

Speak to your OH again, giving the detail you have here and simply state you can no longer do long visits to his family so often

The kids are older and will want to do other stuff, if the family want to see them then they come to you, staying in a air b&b. Same with your family

Stop trying to please them, you and the kids come first

Startingtomoveon · 07/02/2022 17:32

What @billy1966 said.

Seriously, you need to start putting yourself first or you are heading for a breakdown. You’ve had some good advice on this thread so please take heed - things will get better but it starts with you putting your foot down and refusing to dance to everyone else’s tune.

Totalwasteofpaper · 07/02/2022 18:00

@Leighcloon

Just start approaching life with 'What do I get out of this?' as your primary question for a while. Focus on your studies. In your shoes I wouldn't have another child if you would really have to stay at home -- I think being a SAHP suits very few people, and contributes massively to rates of depression. And tell the ILs you're not travelling for the moment, you have too much else on. Or your OH can travel with your children, and you stay at home and study or relax.
I agree with this.

Flowers for you…

I think more children totally off the table and I would def be looking to get out to work I think it would be really good for you.

Your In-laws sound wildly overbearing. I’d be putting in some boundaries either they come to you or you send your DH off with the twins alone.

I found it easiest with my DH to slide into this rather than attack head on… so I started with things like I’d defer the trip by a week then say I have work/an essay AND don’t feel great… he should go on alone. They are looking forward to seeing him and it’s good for him to spend quality time with his parents - they aren’t getting any younger…

Once a month I would be MORE than enough (my mil is 4 hours away we see her 4-6 per year. When she comes I do fk all, DH cooks and organises everything. I have made it clear from the moment I got pregnant not only am I NOT travelling up to her when pregnant but I won’t be doing it after the baby arrives.)

I would also be distancing myself from your “best enemy friend” your sister in law.

ittakes2 · 07/02/2022 18:06

I also think its worth considering inattentive ADHD - especially as you think your children might be on the spectrum as its heridarity. Its absolutely worth being assessed - google it and speak to your GP. I am 50 odd and very excited about being assessed! My life makes sense and when you read about it you see what you can do to manage your life style to make yourself happy.

Whywonttheyhelpme · 07/02/2022 18:22

I think you should definitely speak to your GP. Even something as simple as vitamin D deficiency can make you feel depressed and lacking motivation.

As for the family scenario your DH needs to deal with this as every fortnight is too much. It’s not fair on you or your children. Once a month and alternate whether they come to you or you go to them.

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