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Am I missing the point here?

26 replies

Timeyime · 05/02/2022 01:25

As I sit here in my tiny rented flat being told that I need to pay hundreds of pounds more a year to heat and light it, and watch my shopping bill go up week by week, I do wonder why.

There seems to be a lot of money going around. So it's not because of that. People who were rich before pandemic are way richer now. They haven't even done any work. They've just bought things. Loads of things. Gold bars, properties, all that stuff. So it's not like there's a shortage of wealth. So why do I have to scale back my already modest lifestyle?

Even in domestic terms, I'm told we've spent loads on helping businesses through pandemic. Well most of those businesses I have no access to anyway. I can't afford them. Restaurants that charge £20 or more for one course of food, people who own cottages that charge £100s a night, frigging center parcs who charge you a grand and a half to stay in a hut as far as I can make out, and you have to make your own way there. Why am I funding these people getting money when I will never be able to use what they sell?

And the NI increase. That's to enable people to pass on wealth to their kids isn't it?

All these things I'm being expected to do/fund/put up with when I have fuck all.

It's not right is it?

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FabriqueBelgique · 05/02/2022 01:32

Because we’re the peasants outside the walls Sad

Timeyime · 05/02/2022 01:36

Yeah really it's blatantly that.
Your man on the news telling me not to ask for a payrise. Maybe I wouldn't need one if I hadn't had one in 15 years. I bet his pay has gone up these past fifteen years. I bet it's gone up quite a lot.

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Timeyime · 05/02/2022 01:36

If I had had one in fifteen years.

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YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 05/02/2022 01:41

YANBU

I think there's going to be a "let them eat cake" watershed moment this summer and we will see civil unrest. Like the riots we had a decade ago.

Now that shit is affecting middle earners, via interest rates, tax rates and energy bills, people are slowly waking up.

Timeyime · 05/02/2022 01:45

I hope so.

It's annoying. Money isn't short in absolute terms. It's just short for some people and we're being told to suck it up.

It doesn't make sense.

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Timeyime · 05/02/2022 02:48

No one else fucked off about this?

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vodkaredbullgirl · 05/02/2022 03:01

Getting a pay rise, only for them to take it away again Angry

Timeyime · 05/02/2022 03:12

Even a payrise doesn't mean you break even.

There is loads of money!

Just not for us. Despite working.

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Timeyime · 05/02/2022 03:15

Who the actual fuck is voting that AIBU? All of us low wage employees have had a decade and a half wage freeze and now we're being told to suck up increased costs of living because pandemic, even though there are plenty of folks who have got rich during pandemic, while we haven't. Wtaf are we funding anyway?

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catwomando · 05/02/2022 03:28

@Timeyime

I hope so.

It's annoying. Money isn't short in absolute terms. It's just short for some people and we're being told to suck it up.

It doesn't make sense.

It makes sense if you are a Tory. It's at the heart of their party and beliefs. Business first, every man for himself.

Socialism on the other hand is all about making good quality life for everyone , people having a decent place to live (through council housing, better governing of rentals, and strong laws on housing quality) quality education that doesn't depend on your postcode or ability to pay, healthcare that supports our most vulnerable, and social services that help,people to help themselves and if they can't, to make sure they are safe, fed and cared for with love and dignity.

All of that adds up to a fairer society where a larger portion of the population is happy and productive and can contribute. Everyone has something to give to the world and it's our job as a decent society to have structures to enable that.

Privatised utilities that can fleece us all and landlords who can exploit us and leave us to rot in mouldy homes ungoverned, councils forced to sell off council houses and not given funds to rebuild. All of these are Tory policies designed to make profit at the expense of the rest of us They don't give a shit. Multi-millionaires voting to cut £20 off benefits whilst guzzling expensive wine with no conscience at all.

That man on the telly, telling you to not have a pay rise? His salary? £500k +. Go figure.

Maybe there will be riots, but one things for sure we need to,rally together to create a proper opposition to these crooked bastards and get them out sooner rather than later. I'm appalled at what this country has become, and I loved through the Thatcher years. This is even worse.

We have become the proverbial frogs being boiled in a pan. We are so used to terrible leadership and injustice and the lying and self-serving that we are all too numb to have the energy to act. I mean look at Johnson. In any previous government he would have been out months ago, but there he is, hanging on. He's a total elitist shit.

OP aim with you. Sorry for the rant.

catwomando · 05/02/2022 03:35

*lived through the Thatcher years not loved !!!

And yes @Timeyime I'm absolutely fucking furious. We actually have hungry children in our country. Kids going to school with no food. That should not be happening in a rich country like ours - and we are rich. There is plenty of money p, it's just not being spent where it is needed and not being taken as tax from those who can afford it,

And to those people on here who keep buying everything from Amazon, please stop. They don't pay tax properly so every penny of profit is trousered by billionaires rather than contributing to our society as every other person and business is expected to. Greedy fuckers.

Wam90 · 05/02/2022 04:14

I couldn’t agree more with what you’ve written. It’s beyond frustrating and makes me seethe.
The rich get richer and the poor seem to be unaffected but it’s the middle earners who take the brunt of everything. I was about to write a long response about these people but I know I’ll be made to look unreasonable on here so I’ll keep my opinions on that to myself.
I 100% agree that it’s more than rubbish and hope that @YouCantTourniquetTheTaint is right! 🤞🏼

ticktockriojaoclock · 05/02/2022 04:20

It's not right. It's so unbelievably bad. I can't fathom how the Tories have remained in government for long enough to get us to this point. Who is voting for these self-serving cretins?

Camomila · 05/02/2022 06:34

Because we’re the peasants outside the walls sad

succinct but accurate!

(says a fellow rented flat dweller)

Mermaidwaves · 05/02/2022 07:04

@catwomando

You have summed this up perfectly 👌

GhostCurry · 05/02/2022 07:31

“ And to those people on here who keep buying everything from Amazon, please stop. They don't pay tax properly so every penny of profit is trousered by billionaires rather than contributing to our society as every other person and business is expected to. Greedy fuckers.”

Thank you for saying this. I hate the “oooh I know I shouldn’t, but I just can’t help ordering 10 things from Amazon a week! Tee hee!” crowd. It’s grotesque. Support some other business and also… stop buying so much stuff. Just stop.

bindud · 05/02/2022 07:37

Now that shit is affecting middle earners, via interest rates, tax rates and energy bills, people are slowly waking up.

i agree with that.

Changedmane · 05/02/2022 07:41

Last year I was doing 60-70 hour weeks just to keep food on the table. Luckily I like working and wake up good humoured. Now, things are going to get worse. These are very tough times. I don’t remember when we last really had fun or feel free and happy.

JustWonderingIfYou · 05/02/2022 07:52

But all those businesses employ people.

The idea is that they get to keep their jobs isn't it?

The waiter, cleaners, admin staff etc.

tobleroneORterryschocO · 05/02/2022 07:57

@Changedmane

Last year I was doing 60-70 hour weeks just to keep food on the table. Luckily I like working and wake up good humoured. Now, things are going to get worse. These are very tough times. I don’t remember when we last really had fun or feel free and happy.
Shock feel the same also. Never ending just dragging on in life while it gets harder and seem to have less as stuff going up and do less fun stuff
workwoes123 · 05/02/2022 07:57

Who is voting for these self-serving cretins?

Everyone who believes in the myth of the self-made man.
Everyone who believes that “hard work (and nothing else) got me where I am today”.
Everyone who believes in the meritocracy.
Everyone who wants to leave their wealth to their children rather than to be distributed by the state.
Everyone who wants to use their own wealth and other assets to push their own children up the ladder, rather than distribute their wealth to help push other people’s children up the ladder.

For starters.

stuntbubbles · 05/02/2022 07:59

YANBU, OP.

Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, put the Tories on the top

EnjoyingTheSilence · 05/02/2022 08:50

Bring on the next election and vote these fuckers out

BIWI · 05/02/2022 08:55

This is what happens when we (as a nation) vote in a Tory government, for successive terms.

I think it was Margaret Thatcher who was supposed to have said 'there's no such thing as society'.

It's 'all for one' but definitely not 'one for all'.

Michael Gove talked about the people who needed to use food banks as people who had made 'wrong choices'.

No empathy. No compassion. Not even any consideration or interest in bothering to understand what the majority of their voters actually need.

We're one of the richest countries in the world, but also one of the most unequal.

So don't vote Tory next time!

DamnUserName21 · 05/02/2022 13:22

The rich get richer and the poor seem to be unaffected but it’s the middle earners who take the brunt of everything.

Eh, the poor seem unaffected??? Pretty stupid comment. It's not the middle classes who mainly use food banks or are homeless---numbers, of which, are on the rise- it's the unemployed or working poor. Increased rents, food and bills affect the poor as much as (if not more so) the MC as benefits and wage top ups are capped.

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