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Is supply teaching worth it?

13 replies

Ridiculeisnothingtobescaredof · 02/02/2022 19:01

For either Teacher or TA roles.
I've just been looking and an agency is quoting £66-75 per day including holiday pay for a 7 hour school day. probably come out with £55-60 net for a day once fees are taken out and that's supposed to include holiday pay.

The agencies I've worked with have all insisted on umbrella companies and apparently some will refuse PAYE.

So zero pay during school holidays, how is anybody supposed to live on that, unless they have other work during the holidays?

Anyone here a supply Teacher/TA? Do you have fair conditions?

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Ridiculeisnothingtobescaredof · 02/02/2022 19:06

Assuming you're on the highest rate of £75 a day, for an 8:30-3:30pm school day, that works out as £10.71 per hour approx.
Inclusive of 12.07% holiday pay, or £1.36 an hour, leaving you with £9.35 an hour gross.

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pollyglot · 02/02/2022 19:10

That rate of pay has not changed sinced I was looking into doing S.T. 20 years ago. It's an absolute disgrace for a person with a 4-year degree, post-grad diploma and years of experience.

PyjamaFan · 02/02/2022 19:11

I used to get £150 a day for primary supply in the East Midlands.

It was definitely worth if. So much less stress.

Birdkin · 02/02/2022 19:13

I’m a supply teacher, though I’ve done some supply TA work.

It’s a paycut but it’s not too bad at the moment because there’s work every day. I presume the £75 is for TAing? You can negotiate for more though that may be harder than for teaching as there’s less demand generally.

Also I’m pretty sure they can’t make you use an umbrella company.

Ridiculeisnothingtobescaredof · 02/02/2022 19:13

That's awful to hear it hasn't changed.

£150 is great, i was paid £110 gross for a day as a primary supply teacher last week.

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Ridiculeisnothingtobescaredof · 02/02/2022 19:15

Yes it's for TA work, i think it's ok as a standalone day rate but it's just the fact that it's supposed to include holiday pay and there's no pay during the school holidays which can be 2 weeks at a time. So one month you might only earn around £600 net

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modgepodge · 02/02/2022 19:15

That’s atrocious. I did some supply 10 years ago as an NQT and I was getting £80-100 per day then.

beetuljoos · 02/02/2022 19:17

It's £12k a year if you're working full time during term time. That's basically what a TA earns anyway isn't it?

Ridiculeisnothingtobescaredof · 02/02/2022 19:22

Full time TAs (assuming 37.5 hours a week) earn around 17k these days

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Beachhuts90 · 02/02/2022 19:50

When I was a TA all of us were on 30 hour contracts and paid 12k a year. Across several schools I've not known any different, unless an HLTA. Not in London if that makes a difference.

ViceLikeBlip · 02/02/2022 19:55

The agency I was with paid £98 for teaching, £65 for TA (both after tax).

It wasn't an awful job (because I went into it with a "don't give a shit" attitude!) but I'm much happier now I've found a permanent, part time job in my actual subject.

joopy79 · 02/02/2022 19:56

Come to Wales! We get minimum £141 a day. We are in high demand so now is the time to ask for a pay rise!!!

ViceLikeBlip · 02/02/2022 19:57

Ps my supply agency often worked with other agencies, and I'd get offered random respite care in the school holidays. If you're worried about earnings in school holidays, you could always ask the agency if they have any similar partner agencies.

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