Wendy house has blown into nightmare neighbours car and cracked rear light.

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We’ve actually very recently had to move because of these neighbours (my in laws/OH’s brother and his partner) and their harassment/threats however OH still owns the house.

Kids had a Wendy house, the house we’re renting doesn’t currently have a garden or anywhere to store it. Wendy house was in a corner between a wall which is at least 5 feet and OH’s house. We’ve had storms before and it’s never blown over the wall before, we did have a 10kg bag of play sand on the roof too.

We had BIL banging on our door this morning going absolutely mad because the Wendy house had blown over the wall and cracked his partner’s car’s rear light. Demanded payment there and then. Really quite scary when I was on my own with 4 children. Threatened to ring the police if he didn’t calm down and told him to go away and ring me about it later.

We’re wondering if it would be covered under OH’s house insurance or is it an act of god? They’ve reacted completely out of proportion to the issue. Despite everything they’ve done it doesn’t sit right with either myself or OH to not pay for the damage caused and I really don’t want any more aggro as I’m finding it quite triggering.

Posted here for traffic really but WWYD? Or what should we be doing?

Depends on the car the last one I bought just the glass for was £20 I bought and had a full unit fitted for £75 for a different car so fingers crossed its cheap

@gettingolderandgrumpy but it could cost a lot more in the long run to go through insurance. It’s got to be worth the excess plus however much your insurance would go up per month.

Sorry everyone, thank you for your advice. We’ve had to ring the police again. He came to our house and was throwing things around to get our attention. OH opened a bedroom window and asked him to leave to which he asked OH if he was coming out. OH said certainly not through an upper window no. BIL then said upper window of fine but make sure you have a fucking rope around your neck. Police are meant to be coming out tonight. We think he’s gone now. All over an accident with a bloody Wendy house which we said we’d pay for and after all of the malicious shit and damage they’ve done I’d say that’s pretty decent!!

Do you have any witnesses to the behaviour today or CCTV footage?
Ask the police as a minimum to service an ASB warning notice - it’s a civil notice and given the previous threats he more than meets the threshold. This notice tells him what behaviour is unacceptable and that he must not do it.

Yes, my nephew was witness to the earlier incident and our neighbours saw and heard him latterly. I really want something sorting out now. It’s escalating and escalating. I’ve just been out to put rubbish in my wheelie bin and he was there and followed me to my front door. I’m so scared.

Call the police again. He’s escalating. Keep calling them.

I ask for a charge - public order offence- then he can be bailed with restrictions - ask for a restraining order as part of the conviction.

@CornishTiger they’ve literally just arrived now. Thank you for your advice.

Hope they are ones determined to bring this to a closure for you and your family.

Why have you moved into the village where they will know where you live and have access to your car ?
I can only assume you have no other option to move further away ? This shituation you are in is unbelievable it’s like they are the Gallagher brothers but less rich , honestly I would google the make and model of the rear light and buy it on eBay amazon cheap as possible, ask a local garage how much they charge to fix it and deliver rear light fixing to local garage and arrange payment direct with garage to fix it then get a solicitor to send a letter telling the scum bags “your light and fixing fee are at xxxx garage arrange an appointment at your leisure and that is the end of the matter Fuck off and never darken our door etc etc “

I don’t want to move miles away from support, family and friends and have the kids have the upheaval of moving school. Police was a waste of time. They’ve taken statements but from what he’s said we’re not really gonna get anywhere. Been offered mediation which we’ve been offered before. We accept but they refuse 🤷‍♀️

Speak to national domestic helpline they are the experts see what evidence your need for a non-molestation order. Threatening violence is never ok.

Mediation isn’t appropriate though as he has displayed aggression and made threats.

Sounds like you got Police who couldn’t be bothered.

Start complaining to everyone possible. ASB case worker at council, MP. Ring police everything he comes to your property. 999 if threatening.
Get cctv everywhere too.

A non molesation order is only for those who have been intimate partners. You are looking at a civil injunction order or a restraining order as part of a criminal conviction.

I’d complain about the lack of action of Police- you have neighbours and a nephew as witnesses.

And he has a criminal record for GBH against OH.

Tell the police to stop focusing on community resolutions and start looking at protection from harassment and criminal proceedings.

Who lives in the other 2 properties on the estate? How big is your land? Is there option to move to another property or even build your own house away from his?

Posters doubting the strength of the wind over Friday night to Saturday - it really was that bad. We live in Yorkshire, and all trans Pennine routes were closed to high sided vehicles yesterday. We were buffeted quite badly on Woodhead Pass in our little Honda.

Also look at this website. It is very simple language to understand and shows you how to escalate the authorities response. Look at your local threshold for a community trigger and don’t be afraid to use it. asbhelp.co.uk/anti-social-behaviour/

If you know what car it is and which lamp it is (it will likely just be the lens cover broken) Google it in Google shopping, on amazon they range from £40 - 100 so replacing it should be easy

@CornishTiger your advice has been brilliant, thanks so much. I’ll push and push on this. We’ve looked at the Price of the shields online and they’re around £45. Honestly the way they’ve carried on you’d think it’d been written off.

I’ve been here unfortunately personally and still living in fear of the perpetrator. I also work in this arena. It’s crap - I know.

Unfortunately people like this will only stop unless they are made to ( the law) or you move. I know the legal side is a nightmare and going to take money and erode your asset but you need to bring it to an end.

I hope you get it sorted and find a way to get rid of him OP it sounds like a nightmare. It’s a shame you don’t have a slurry tank he could fall into.

I would be careful about claiming it on insurance when it is probably going to be such a relatively small amount as it may well be it would still affect your claims record and may be your premium will then go up and that would be as much (if not more over time) as cost for replacement of a rear light cover (esp if you can source the part from a breakers yard or off eBay).

It's your DH family, I'd get him to sort it out.

They sound really over reactive and unpleasant tbh 🤨

@CornishTiger

A non molesation order is only for those who have been intimate partners. You are looking at a civil injunction order or a restraining order as part of a criminal conviction.

I’d complain about the lack of action of Police- you have neighbours and a nephew as witnesses.

This is not correct – you can apply for a molestation order @user1488481370

See the attached information on the government website and look at the non molestation form there. Section 4.4 on page 10 sets out other relationships and you can tick the other box and put brother in law there.

This is exactly the kind of case that you should be using a non-mol order and why they replaced the old system (where only people in sexual relationships could do so)

If granted by the Court, it gives the police immediate powers if he breaches it. Which not only makes their life much easier, but also give them an absolute duty to act.

It does sound like you have got to a point where you really should consider applying for this.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/998334/FL401Non-molandocc_order.pdf

Yes Non-Mol all the way and repeatedly mentioning to the police your concerns for the risks he poses towards your children, as proved by the rat poison and the glass.

What other criminal history does he have?
I reckon if you out Non-Mol in place he will escalate and breach it, then repeatedly breach and end up with consequences.

Does he have other features of anti-social personality disorder? Is this behavior just towards you guys or towards others too?

This sounds awful! Is there a sensible family member that can tell BiL to back off?