To not want stuff we post here to end up on gutter press websites?

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Every day I’m reading stuff on the mirror or sun websites that’s been lifted from mumsnet. Why do they feel it’s acceptable to take and publish stuff from a help forum for cheap clicks and views?!

Vile.

Yanbu to not wanted but that ship has long since sailed, sadly .

Back in day before this happened, MN themselves used to pull content from threads to include in their books.

YABU.

Whenever I read these threads I wonder if people realise the size of MN, and the number of people who read it every day. Even if a thread was never quoted anywhere else it would be far far from private.

Hypocritical for you to moan about them just browse them yourself

Get a grip

It's a hazard of posting, particularly in AIBU.

Quieter topics are less likely to be picked up - but you might not get as many responses.

If something is costing you nothing, then you are the product.

MN is no different. It's free for you to join and post. In return your content is monetised and anyone - including journalists - can pick up your posts and publish/link to them.

People forget that these are not private conversations they are having, because threads have a chatty and (mostly) friendly feel to them, there's a 'way' of doing things, familiar names and so on.

YABU

You know it's a public forum and you know the press do this.

@RunningInTheWind

Given your sneers towards the “gutter press”, why are you spending so much time on the sun/mirror sites that you find all these articles?

I know for me, stories/articles come up as soon as I click on the Google icon, from a range of websites and publications.

It's very efficient journalism. When you're expected to churn out eight articles per day, on a day rate of a hundred quid, without leaving your desk other than for a very quick lunch, you find what gets the clicks and you go with it. I'm not sure why someone finding MN stories interesting in the light sections of a newspaper is any different from finding them interesting on here.

@MindyStClaire

YABU.

Whenever I read these threads I wonder if people realise the size of MN, and the number of people who read it every day. Even if a thread was never quoted anywhere else it would be far far from private.

Agree.

MN does not have a 'viewed' total on its threads - but lots of sites do. I think posters here would get a shock if they realised that an AIBU thread with 100 posts on it, might have been viewed 10,000 times.

As an example I have just looked on another forum I lurk in, which does have a view counter on it. A relatively new thread - started this morning - has 40 replies on it but over 500 views.

@JbSmCn I used to get round-up emails from MN that had view counts on them - always around 10,000 for AIBU and Chat, often a lot higher. I do agree some people think MN is like their own private forum. It is absolutely not.

To anyone who does, or has, read the Mail or other tabloids (or TV/radio) that regularly crib from Mn, how are Mn and its users characterised? Is it 'neurotic middle-class housewives with too much time on their hands get heated about X' or 'venomous vipers go batshit' or what is it?

I never post anything, even under a name change, that I wouldn't want to see in the press. I never post anything about anyone, even under a name change, that I wouldn't be happy for them to read over my shoulder. The odd time I've skirted close to it, I've immediately contacted MNHQ and requested removal.

I've been here years and I don't namechange because I know that nothing is private. Namechanging makes people think that they are getting confidentiality. But people can piece together odd bits of information and come up with a picture very quickly.

I can see why it would be frustrating or upsetting if you’ve posted about something very sensitive, but when it’s so widely known that it happens, isn’t it just the risk you take? There’s no way to stop it - and crucially, MN doesn’t want to stop it. ‘Clickbait’ is so called for a reason. I would never have visited MN without ‘Cancel the Cheque’, and I would imagine an awful lot of non-parents find the site this way and stick around.

As for the ‘It’s not real journalism’ accusations, I always wonder why people are so desperate to criticise tabloids for being, well, tabloids. Fair enough if you’ve bought The Times hoping to read about political upheaval in Ukraine and get ‘AIBU for thinking my SIL is a bitch for scheduling a party the day after my DS turns one?’ instead, you’ve got the right to be pissed off. But complaining a tabloid is too lightweight is like buying What Car? magazine and wondering where the ‘Who wore it best?’ feature and the make-up tips are.

Whenever I see a Mumsnet thread on a tabloid website, there are dozens of comments saying ‘This is news now?!’ or similar. I always wonder how they manage to get to the end of the article to post a comment about how facile its mere existence is…

@RunningInTheWind I don’t. They are on the main home page that passes for news these days - most of it isn’t at all. I don’t read them and would never lower myself to click on anything on the mirror, sun or daily fail websites, but I recognise the headlines from reading threads here.