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Trauma or pathetic?

17 replies

EffYou · 23/01/2022 19:34

Name changed. Long term poster

Just over 13 years ago, my partner at the time was arrested for sex offences. It was Christmas Eve and I was making gingerbread with my young DC and there was a knock at the door. I knew it wasn't ExP because he was at work and because he'd recently moved in with his parents due to repeated infidelity on his part and me needing to get my head straight over it all. So I had no idea who it was going to be, but their knock was very hard and very urgent. I remember feeling uneasy before I even opened the door.

There was a man standing there with a woman, both in suits. I assumed debt collectors. My ex had a habit of running up credit card debt and "forgetting." I was immediately on edge and annoyed because I'd literally just managed to get away from his gaslighting and abuse after years of trying to get some space to actually clear my head and suddenly here were his problems on my doorstep, right on top of Christmas, when I'd insisted I wanted a trouble free and quiet Xmas with just my babies.

The man said my name. He asked if I knew where ExP was. I gave his parents address and said he was living there. They asked if he was in my house at that moment. I said no, he'll be at work and went to close the door. That's when they said who they were, flashed the badges and asked if they could come in. It was really not an ask. They came in and asked if we could talk away from the children. I said I needed to supervise them, we were baking. They asked if I'd mind putting something on the telly for the kids to watch and then coming back to the baking after we had a chat.

Then they started asking me if i had ever felt concerns with regards to my ExP and the children. I was really honest and said he was a rubbish dad, that's why I had to leave my job because he wasn't caring for them during my work hours. I'd come home and he'd given them nothing but biscuits all day long and not got them dressed or done their teeth or even changed their pull ups. That sort of thing. He asked if I felt he'd had inappropriate relationships with anyone at all. I said about the cheating. They asked about anyone under sixteen. I was really freaked out by this point and asked why, what had happened and they said they couldn't tell me anything at all, I just needed to answer the questions. They asked me about our sex life, if he was violent etc. It was one of the most horrible hours. They left and said they were going to his place of work. Then they phoned me- I didn't even give them my number- and said "we've got him, he's confessed everything, we've got to interview and bail him and then we'll be in touch again."

Still telling me nothing! But at 1am on Christmas morning he phoned me from the police station to say he'd been bailed and had been arrested and would be getting charged on a historical case for having "consensual sex with a 12 year old."

Obviously that's not what he was ultimately charged with, it was rape, sexual assault etc. He went to prison and so he damn well should have. He had no further contact with the Dc and they were young enough to forget all about him. I met my husband two years later and he's raised all DC like his own. But I never saw that coming with my ex. Not that. I had no single hint of it. He was older than me and the offending took place before we were together, but he was around the parents of that child. I had dinner with them all. I laughed and joked with them and I never knew. He broke so many people by what he did. He even had his solicitor subpoena me so I had to testify in court that I'd never suspected anything at all. God knows why- he admitted it!! I would have thought that did nothing except prove how sneaky he was. But the gallery was packed with the family of the victim. I felt so ashamed that all these people thought I was a blind idiot and tainted by him. I had to move after that and I changed the DCs surnames.

But for 13 years now, my heart has pounded at the sound of a hard knock on the door. We had a traffic incident outside our house recently and officers came to the door and I almost had a panic attack over it. The DC have no clue what their biological father did and I've carried that secret for over a decade so it wouldn't shape who they thought they were or damage their experiences at school if it were to become known. If anyone so much as asks about their father, I feel my chest get tight and I can hear my heart pounding in my ears. I feel sick when I pass the crown court. Every time something happens that I can't instantly explain, I imagine the worst possible scenario and how I would pull everyone's lives together and limit damage to them.

It didn't happen to me. I wasn't the criminal. I wasn't the victim. I wasn't on trial. AIBR and this is a trauma response and I should seek some
help or AIBU and this is just pathetic and I need to pull myself together?

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Neverfightamanwithaperm · 23/01/2022 19:49

Oh my goodness, what a horrible experience to go through. You should definitely seek some help/advice and are not being unreasonable at all. Good luck. Flowers

Shoxfordian · 23/01/2022 19:54

Not pathetic at all
Speak to a counsellor and get some help

EffYou · 23/01/2022 19:54

Thank you. I don't sit and think about it on Christmas Day, but when I take the tree down, I always remember the year I took it down crying so hard that I lost my voice for a couple of days. I remember it every time I smell gingerbread. I made some this year. I used to make biscuits to hang on the tree on Christmas Eve. I hadn't done that since. I did it this year to sort of try and reclaim it and it just brought back the feeling of everything being cold and frightening. That's not what you want from the experience!

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Cryalot2 · 23/01/2022 19:55

Op this is dreadful. I am so sorry. You are strong and brave.

Possibly you should seek counselling. I wish you well Flowers

NeverChange · 23/01/2022 19:56

Dear Lord, that is horrific and it is not wonder that you are traumatised by it.

Firstly it's a shock to be told that about anyone.

Even worst, that he is a former partner and father of your children
Also, you had to testify on his behalf (do not beat yourself up over telling the true, you were under oath, you can only be honest)

It's a hell of a lot to carry, not only those events but trying to protect your children from it all. I think you would benefit from trama counselling, even just to process it all out loud as I'm sure you have probably internalised it for your children's sake.

JSL52 · 23/01/2022 19:58

That's a horrible thing to have happened.
Do your kids ask about him?

NatriumChloride · 23/01/2022 20:00

What a horrible experience for you, OP, you poor thing. I’m not surprised you’re still upset all these years later. If you have money for it, I’d definitely seek therapy. What happened was truly traumatic and it must be tough getting over that.

RogerDodger · 23/01/2022 20:00

OP this sounds like PTSD. I have something similar although not as awful as you experienced but I still panic if ever the police or anyone I’m not expecting comes to the door for anything like looking for witnesses or needing the car moved etc. I’m like a rabbit in the headlights and can’t move my mouth to speak. I’m sure the police think I’m insane but until they explain why they’re there I can’t even think let alone relax and respond properly.

nocoolnamesleft · 23/01/2022 20:01

You're not the victim. But you are a victim. You were collateral damage. And it sounds like all your effort and energy went into protecting your children, so you probably didn't have much left for processing this yourself. Counselling sounds like a very good idea.

colouringindoors · 23/01/2022 20:01

Not at all pathetic. That is a classic trauma response from an awful experience. I used to get the same when now exh's key turned in the lock... worth seeking out a specialist trauma therapist if you can afford it.

I'd also really recommend the book "The body keeps the score" all about how trauma is stored in the body. Take care.

Tal45 · 23/01/2022 20:01

I can't imagine how traumatic that was, of course you deserve support and help - you are so far away from pathetic!

MatildaTheCat · 23/01/2022 20:09

Get counselling or therapy and try EMDR. It’s an absolute game changer.
I suffered trauma and like you I can remember virtually word for word all the dialogue that took place and it went round and round in my head like a never ending loop.

You survived, you were strong, you protected your children and you did nothing, NOTHING wrong. You need to find peace now.

EffYou · 23/01/2022 20:13

@JSL52

That's a horrible thing to have happened. Do your kids ask about him?
No. They were only just two and three when he moved out. While the trial and things were happening, I made sure there was zero contact. Even when social services told me I could agree to supervised contact. I refused. I wanted them to forget him and I told them he had moved away. They didn't question it much. I met the man they call Dad when they were four and five.
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EffYou · 23/01/2022 20:14

[quote colouringindoors]uk.bookshop.org/books/the-body-keeps-the-score-mind-brain-and-body-in-the-transformation-of-trauma/9780141978611[/quote]
Thank you, I will look at this

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HollowTalk · 23/01/2022 20:15

What a terrible, terrible experience. Please don't worry about what the other family will think of you. After all they were taken in by him as well. I think counselling would be a really good idea. I'm so glad you've met a good guy who will take on the parental role.

Offdutyfrom5 · 24/01/2022 00:05

Gosh, that sounds distressing. Sorry you had to go through that. Even if it’s not PTSD it’s still trauma that’s impacting you, particularly when there are matching triggers e.g the door knocking in a similar way to the time of the initial event. Definitely seek support. Trauma focused CBT could be useful or EMDR if not wanting to talk out loud about it. Most primary care psychology services should offer both (at least they do where I work).

So many of my patients have trauma and PTSD from how things were managed by the police, hard knock on the door is a common trigger, and also the way they get questioned/the tone they’re spoken to in when they’re a victim not the perpetrator. At debriefs with the police, they’ve been told they have to speak to them that way because they need to make sure they can stand up to tough interviewing if it were to go to court but it’s sad that it has to be that way.

You’ve done nothing wrong, and definitely not being unreasonable to feel the way you do.

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