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AIBU for thinking these behaviours aren't acceptable?

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wildingtree · 22/01/2022 14:22

I'm easy going, so don't expect people to all share similar standards or needs, but feel I am approaching end of line with DP of 25 years.
It all just caught up and hit me in the face recently. So, here are the issues.

  1. He never bathes or showers unless I really push it. Usually once per month, always excuses, but does insist he 'cleans' himself regularly (thankfully he is excessively careful of teeth).

  2. Barely any sex life, had low performance confidence and over years it froze me out as i would often get punished for it. I have given as much support as i could but in recent years i am worn out with that so we don't do much. It just sort of slid out of existence, to be honest. If i bring it up i will def get the blame somehow.

  3. Never ever wants to go anywhere or do anything with me. Never suggests an idea or interest.Ever. I take us on a long holiday (only in UK) each year but he would never mention such things if i didn't.

  4. He earns less than me, not an issue, but I pretty much pay for everything. He has his own shopping lists like a bachelor and rarely wants to share things. He chooses deliberately shit shops to purchase food from and we rarely eat together due to this. I love to cook us up fabulous meals (i love sharing my cooking) and he is appreciative but doesn't really seem to care. He is also same with booze - can only have his own and never shares a bottle.

  5. No maintenance whatsoever: I bought most of the appliances and household goods, tv, vacuum, etc. Over years whenever something is faulty he insists there is a way to 'game it' or it has a long life yet. Usually it will just conk out soon after. Carpet behind front door used to leg me up dangerously when coming in, i was told i was 'walking over it incorrectly'. Everything is allowed to deteriorate and nothing is put by to maintain stuff, so when things break i replace them as i don't want to trouble him for money when he has little of it. I wouldn't mind this if he had a sense of caring for things but since he never buys them he doesn't value them i guess.

  6. No shared plans or goals with me. My name isn't even on tenancy because he doesn't like change. We are middle aged, this will likely not change.

  7. Can't smell stuff. Not a medical issue and he doesn't have depression. So often, stuff will get left in bin in kitchen for too long and stink the house out, or he doesn't notice his hair or clothes smell. I gently alert him but i can tell he resents me for bringing it up. What do you even do with that? He is a handsome guy but wont replace clothes. Over years i have had to buy them :( I bought him some great stuff but again he lets it wear right out.

  8. Isn't interested in making any kind of will or instruction for if anything bad happened. Isn't interested if i do either.

  9. He doesn't communicate much, often forgets to tell me stuff like a friend is in hospital, he has an appointment, etc. I seem to do most of the fixing, talking and emotional stuff. If i try to communicate about any of the above he would get either angry or feel picked on. It's so tricky.

  10. Because of stuff not getting cared for, the house is really awful and ugly. Not in a bohemian way, but just depressing. I can't do much about it as i am not the owner, and things that are old, broken don't get reported. He finally started decorating (to prove a point) two yrs ago and stopped half way through. Everything is ramshackle, badly put together, damaged or dirty. I honestly can't keep trying to change this as it is like dealing with a brick wall. I just want to run away at this point to be honest, having invested so much with no return. I didn't grow up like this and don't know anyone else who lives like this. He makes me feel like a snob if I bring it up.

Even though we didn't marry or have any kids, i don't think i should feel this 'single' either. There's a lot of love and trust, but I just don't feel like much of these are normal, even though normal is very subjective.....
Perhaps we are incompatible. That's ok. There are many great things but obvs i have not written them here. But i feel the balance is so off as i get older that this list is like a dealbreaker. Surely i am not U for feeling there should be more to life than this?

I keep waking each day, the past few months, and there's this rush of feeling and a voice in my head yelling at me to get out, to start again, to not put up with it anymore.

OP posts:
KosherDill · 22/01/2022 14:55

@wildingtree

what is proper commitment though? For me it is loyalty, honesty and living as well as possible. Combining that care and thought.

I never used to mind but as i get older, after losing both of my lovely parents in recent years, it has brought out the stark 'lack' in this relationship. It is as if he is writing a script of poverty and brokenness that he forces to come true. He didn't grow up struggling so no idea how he has developed this. We could very easily have had a good and abundant lifestyle. We do have somewhat different backgrounds though.

You can be his friend yet still move on and have a non-squalid life of your own.

Don't let guilt waste your life away.

Tigertigertigertiger · 22/01/2022 14:57

I feel for you.
25 years of shared history is hard to leave.

But you are not happy and it sounds like you want to leave and feel you need permission ?

You really don’t.

Good luck in your future and thank goodness you are not married.

wildingtree · 22/01/2022 14:58

Oh, the sex stuff is complicated, and old.
He had performance issues years ago and often suggested i would be better off with someone else. Like self torture. It was difficult to live with that and eventually i was relieved when it petered off..i feel almost numb sexually now, after so many years of that weird intensity and low confidence from him.

He insists he is not depressed, but is on a low dose of anti D's. He has been on them for 20 years with no review :(

OP posts:
Mosaic123 · 22/01/2022 14:59

Can you afford to live somewhere on your own? Imagine a small but fragrant home.

wildingtree · 22/01/2022 15:01

@Mosaic123

Can you afford to live somewhere on your own? Imagine a small but fragrant home.
Haha, fragrant! Yes i am due to move for work reasons. This does not bother him.

What i am not interested in is repeating this pattern. After i leave the house would get worse, and worse. He wont plan or put his ducks in a row, just has head in sand. His landlady died recently and the house may get sold this coming year - he wont look at this at all, it is scary to me.

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Calvinlookingforhobbes · 22/01/2022 15:02

Leave. Now. Go and enjoy your one and only life!

Sheabutterisdelish · 22/01/2022 15:04

I'd be taking the high road out this afternoon tbh

Scarlettpixie · 22/01/2022 15:04

I think you know what you need to do OP. You deserve better.

Liverbird77 · 22/01/2022 15:09

Sounds pretty bad, apart from number 7! I too have no sense of smell and never have had! Granted, I am extra careful about clothes etc because of this, but there's nothing I can do about it!!

MysteriousMonkey · 22/01/2022 15:10

I didn't even have to finish your list before I knew I'd be out. You can do so much better!

2022success · 22/01/2022 15:14

I don't really understand OP.

There is nothing keeping you there. Your name isn't even on the tenancy. You can just walk out the door and keep walking.

You say you are moving for a new job - just do it, but don't drag this waste of space with you. Time to actually start living a normal life on your own. Flowers

wildingtree · 22/01/2022 15:19

@2022success

I don't really understand OP.

There is nothing keeping you there. Your name isn't even on the tenancy. You can just walk out the door and keep walking.

You say you are moving for a new job - just do it, but don't drag this waste of space with you. Time to actually start living a normal life on your own. Flowers

This is true, but it takes some doing after all these years. Close friends moved or drifted a while ago so i am quite isolated. Hardly any family left, it would be a very new start. It is what i want and need though.

As the months go by it haunts me like a ghost, this urge to change it. To get away. I do feel bad about it, as we have some good times and i care so much. But i cant see it fixing, ever.

After an argument last week he complained that i ought to go if i am not satisfied, that he can't satisfy me. I felt shocked because he was right. But surely what i want isnt so selfish or far fetched. I dont need a lover, but i do need a life. If i am going to be with someone it needs to be better than this, surely?

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 22/01/2022 15:27

He’s not actually your partner though
I don’t see how he’s on your team or doing anything to improve your life or make you happy.

As you have an opportunity to leave; take it as soon as you can

Echobelly · 22/01/2022 15:31

It sounds to me like there's a 'sunk investment cost' - you've been with him for a long time so you should stay with him, even if a load of things he does really bring you down.

I'm sure he's relatively happy, he's in his comfort zone of not asking much from life, but that doesn't mean you have to be as well if it makes your life miserable. You're allowed to change how you feel if this isn't working anymore.

Natty13 · 22/01/2022 15:37

@wildingtree

it feels mean saying these things, he has many good qualities, i promise!

but they are seriously depressing me as i get older.

he is not 'revolting' , but the domestication element is fucking too much.

Showering/bathing once a month and only then because you are cajoled to, is in face revolting.

Jesus christ he has done a number on you if you think any of this is acceptable.

QueeniesCroft · 22/01/2022 15:50

It's good that you aren't married and you don't have children together, because that means that there is no real reason for you to stay in a miserable relationship.
It doesn't matter at all that he is this or that, only that this relationship is not making you happy. He doesn't sound happy either, so neither of you is getting much (in an emotional sense) out of carrying on as you are.
A new job in a new place sounds like the perfect opportunity to get rid of anything that is dragging you down or making you unhappy.

merryhouse · 22/01/2022 16:08

There's this person.

You don't have sex.

You don't share catering. Or wine!

You don't do anything together apart from the occasional holiday.

He doesn't tell you what's going on in his life.

You don't share a tenancy, you have no plans, you're not in his will.

What exactly makes you describe him as a partner?

wildingtree · 22/01/2022 18:25

What exactly makes you describe him as a partner?

habit.

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BasiliskStare · 22/01/2022 20:39

I think you could be his friend @wildingtree - and if habit is the thing - it will be hard but from what you have said you deserve more. Maybe the upside of him not having put you on the tenancy is you can move quickly.

It will be hard - but 2 years on - see what you think ( I know that is a tiny fraction of 25 years )

fortheloveofcheesecake · 22/01/2022 20:46

Oh goodness OP, you deserve a life and a much cleaner and happier one that this current situation you describe. This isn't a partnership. Make your own life and be happy.

Italiangreyhound · 22/01/2022 20:49

Don"t feel guilty. You are unhappy. Go and be happy. You deserve to be happy.

MintyGreenDream · 22/01/2022 21:08

I left my exH when I seriously got the ick we hadn't had sex properly in years.When we split suddenly I had a sex drive! And I wasn't depressed!

Tigertigertigertiger · 22/01/2022 21:13

“ Don’t let habit and cowardice keep you there “

Said a wise person

5128gap · 22/01/2022 21:19

@wildingtree

it feels mean saying these things, he has many good qualities, i promise!

but they are seriously depressing me as i get older.

he is not 'revolting' , but the domestication element is fucking too much.

You've given a long list of things that make him sound about as bad as it gets, short of violent crime. So it's obvious people are going to say leave on that basis. Yet you say he has good points. For balance and context, what are they?
Speakuptomakeyourselfheard · 22/01/2022 21:25

I can only back up every other poster OP. Please stop arguing with yourself, going back and forth in your mind. He's not giving you ANYTHING! You in turn are giving him EVERYTHING! Find somewhere to live, close to your new job, pack your bags, and just leave, I wouldn't even bother to tell him you're going, as if he can't be bothered to tell you his plans, why would you bother? He clearly has no respect for you, or he would make more effort. I can virtually guarantee that he won't even notice you've gone, which is sad, but really should tell you that it's time to go ...... NOW! Good luck!