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To wonder why MN always suggests greyhounds?

49 replies

Ilikegreyhoundsbut · 19/01/2022 16:24

Fair enough if someone is just asking general dog advice but twice this week I’ve seen someone stipulate they need a dog without a strong prey drive and that is small / medium sized and been told to look at greyhounds.

I know everyone insists not all greyhounds have strong prey drives but that’s what they are bred for!

AIBU to think perhaps it’s a bit daft? I sometimes wonder if posters are having a joke but they aren’t.

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MrMrsJones · 20/01/2022 11:39

@AsYouWishButtercup

YANBU. Especially when people are having their first ever dog, greyhound is not an ideal breed at all
Why ever not?

I have whippets, just a smaller version of a greyhound, takes up less sofa space.

They can walk for miles or not so much
Don't smell, none of that wet dog smell
Short fur, so not left everywhere
Great for people with allergys
Sleep 90% of the time
Love to cuddle
No health issues
Will chase if out and spot something, but doesn't all dogs?

I had three and a cat, the cat was the boss

Why wouldn't you love them

CounsellorTroi · 20/01/2022 11:45

I’ve read that retired greyhounds make great pets.

Cornettoninja · 20/01/2022 11:49

I’ve no intention of getting a dog but this thread has made me want a greyhound! Grin

(I’m not getting one btw, I’m definitely best suited to an actual cat!)

DistrustfulDinosaur · 20/01/2022 11:52

My GH does have a strong prey drive but is all bark and no trousers. He's the same with other dogs. Obviously this means he needs to be the only pet in the household. He's been attacked by neighbour's cats on three separate occassions by squaring up to them and nearly lost an eye twice. The third time, the cat backed him into a corner, sprayed him and tore his backside open. He just stood there crying until we ran out to rescue him!

I guess breed is only really relevent if someone's looking to get a puppy. With a rescue, surely you just see what's available and ask the place to suggest suitable dogs? I would never have thought to choose a greyhound, but he had been overlooked for years in the rescue as he was older and not really suited to a house with other pets and young children. He's turned out to be an ideal dog for us as he's low energy and great with people, so always a hit with customers when we need to take him to work

maxelly · 20/01/2022 11:57

Your dogs sound wonderful MrsJones, and I like greyhounds and all pointy dogs too, but I think it's fair to say there are some issues with them. Some (not all but a definite number, I'd go so far as to say the majority) of hound-type dog do have a higher prey drive (its generic), particularly compared to say a toy breed that has been bred over many generations to prefer to be close to its owner and stay still. And the ones bred and trained to race/work probably more so than average as obviously the successful racing dogs which are chosen to breed from really, really want to catch that rabbit Grin naturally and then than inclination is reinforced deliberately via training. They're not to know that what they've been encouraged to do all their lives is suddenly undesirable just because they are in a new environment. A lot of the ex-racers I know can't safely be walked off lead unless in an enclosed area as their recall is just too bad and small furries would not be safe around them. That's not to say that's necessarily an enormous issue, they are not massively high energy dogs so an on-walk lead and chance to zoom around an enclosed garden is fine for many but if the family have a vision of lovely long off-lead walks in the country park or playing frisbee on the grass, they should know it might not happen with a greyhound (most I know are also bemused by any kind of fetch game but maybe they're just dim Grin ).

Also, lovely that yours are good around cats but most hounds I know are very much not unless they've been brought up around them, which again is very much not the norm for rescue ex-racers. Some, but not all ex-racers have lived in kennels the majority of their lives, which is not to say they've been mistreated per se, they're working animals and often well cared for within that context but expecting them to simply transition problem-free into a busy family home with noises, children, other pets and to be taken for walks with other, potentially reactive dogs around, well, you can see that problems could occur particularly with a novice owner that maybe doesn't have loads of time for retraining and just wants a dog to slot in (again, no judgement here, that's the simple reality for a lot of people that post here or in the dog house board looking for a family pet)...

That being said a lot of the ex-racer charities do brilliant work fostering their dogs out so that transition period is managed by someone experienced and dedicated and they will be able to match dogs with suitable homes so e.g. they can cat test and tell you which ones absolutely couldn't live with one, which ones are good with children, which ones can go off-lead etc. But then again this does mean if you are a family with a cat and toddlers and only want a dog with good recall, no separation anxiety and 100% around other dogs, you might need to wait longer than if you can cope with more behavioural issues. That's true of all rescues of course so not saying people shouldn't do it, I think the 'beef' people have on this thread is that sometimes people suggest an ex-racer as the easy way around this as though they're all ready-made perfect family dogs available for the asking, if that was true I think people would be biting the rescues hands off for them which we know not to be the case...

Avarua · 20/01/2022 12:00

I don't know, I only really like terriers with square shaped faces and expressive eyebrows. Each to their own.

Cherryblossoms85 · 20/01/2022 12:02

Whippets would be a much better suggestion.

MrMrsJones · 20/01/2022 12:06

Thank you x

The other benefits are

They don't bark
Ours loves chasing and returning a ball
Most won't touch cats if it's the household pet, anything outside is fair game. But you can train them, they don't respond to aggressive training, so gentle tactics need to be used.

steppemum · 20/01/2022 12:37

WellThatsMeScrewed

couldn't agree more, ther's a dog for every person, I was just commenting in th elight of mn always recommending greyhounds

maxelly
I really agree about activity levels. The number of odgs I know that are not walked properly during the week due to work and school.

We got our dog when kids were older, and I call his food bill my gymn membership. I do 1.5 hour walk every morning, all weathers. Dog happily running alongside.
That's why a greyhound wouldn't suit us. He'd get half a mile down the road, start shivering despite his warm coat and head home to the fire!

CoffeeWithCheese · 20/01/2022 12:41

[quote MsAnnFrope]@QueenofLouisiana my friend has adopted a rescue mix with a lot of hound in her and has complained “it’s like I have a bloody cat”. As a cat lover I think her hound is perfect and noble![/quote]
Mine is very much a frustrated cat - but it's like cuddling a bag of elbows instead of a moggie - usually when on a Teams call and a furry nose pops into the corner of the screen from where she's sat with her head on my lap.
They're a bit marmite as a breed - you either love, and want something that size and with brains wired how theirs are, or you don't. I think they're beautiful.

Flaunch · 20/01/2022 12:45

I can’t see the pleasure in having a dog that can’t be let off the lead so for that reason I’d never have a, GH but they are lovely dogs with brilliant personalities.

Greenbluestar · 20/01/2022 16:15

I’m sure there are lots of lovely GH dogs but I would feel unable to ever let one off the lead incase they saw a rabbit or something. I’m a staffie owner, and enjoy letting run about and play with other dogs knowing she’ll recall to me if I need her to.

EerieSilence · 20/01/2022 16:50

It's the MN mantra:

  1. spay your dog immediately after it left their mother's uterus. Anything else is late.
  2. don't ever buy a dog from a breeder. It can be because you are after a dog with certain characteristics and you choose a kennel with the particular breed and character for that reason - that's all wrong. No dog should ever breed, get one from the rescue, even though you don't know their history and how they may react.
  3. A bull breed will mean you're a social welfare scamming lowlife and your dog will eat all your babies for lunch.
  4. Small dogs can run around free and approach any dog because they are friendly little things. If they get bitten or threatened by a reactive dog on the leash, it was the other dog's owner problem.
Withnailandyou · 20/01/2022 17:16

Massively agree that people over estimate activity levels.
When I worked in rescue I saw lots of dogs returned because the family while active, weren't able to facilitate the dog in that and got something like a spaniel that needed long periods of activity wether it was raining, winter or your kids were exhausted from rugby etc

We often had to tell people to go by weekday activity levels, rather than weekend. Yes some dogs are fine with short midweek ones and then longer weekend but you don't want one that needs your weekend length every day.

People over estimate the traits they want.
They want affectionate and loving dogs then want to leave them for long periods and wonder why they have separation anxiety. They want a playful dog but not when it's late and winter. They want a clever dog but really they mean trainable not one that can work out how to open your doors, or one that finds being left at home akin to torture so creates mischief

Often dogs like greyhounds and cavaliers aren't exciting but tend to have similar temperaments to what suits a usual family life

Hotdogsforsale · 20/01/2022 17:39

I have two greyhounds. Adore them. One is lazy, non-barking, easy going, and the other is much more energetic, vocal, and reactive/fearful at times. Both high prey drives.

When researching dogs I found a lot of very positive stories about greys and felt they'd be ideal for us. They are, but they have their challenges and neither of mine would suit a home with children.

I think there is a quite vocal community of grey owners/rehoming charities who love the breed and want to see the many retired or surrendered dogs in happy homes, which they deserve. There are just so many of them needing homes, it's never ending.

I'd certainly suggest people consider them as a pet, but if I was looking for a dog that could live with cats or small children, or it was important to me that they could be off lead, they wouldn't be my top choice. I think it's a good idea to adopt from charities which assess the dogs in Foster homes if possible. However our experience was that the real personalities of both our dogs took quite a long time to come out properly, several months, so what we've ended up with is very different than at the start!

XenoBitch · 20/01/2022 18:05

My greyhound has lived with cats, and is fine off lead. I had her from a puppy though, and that is unusual.

craftyminer · 20/01/2022 18:08

I don't get the love for greyhounds, lurchers, whippets. Without fail they go after my dog and put their mouths around his neck. They pin him to the ground and without fail i hear, "he's just playing". Not fun for my scared, slobbered on dog.

JohnnyEyebrows · 20/01/2022 18:09

God knows OP. They're not nice dogs to look at there for sure.

Discustard · 20/01/2022 18:22

I think they are lovely, they are generally very chilled, low maintenance, and not prone to biting humans. Watching them roll around on their backs and flail their legs about is a delight.

MrMrsJones · 20/01/2022 19:19

@craftyminer

I don't get the love for greyhounds, lurchers, whippets. Without fail they go after my dog and put their mouths around his neck. They pin him to the ground and without fail i hear, "he's just playing". Not fun for my scared, slobbered on dog.
They do like to play bitey face, which looks quite rough but actually isn't.

Or try and make other dogs run so they can chase them or they like to be chased.

I have two whippets, so they play together

MrMrsJones · 20/01/2022 19:20

@JohnnyEyebrows

God knows OP. They're not nice dogs to look at there for sure.
How can you say that, how cute is that face
To wonder why MN always suggests greyhounds?
fairylightsandwaxmelts · 20/01/2022 19:29

@craftyminer

I don't get the love for greyhounds, lurchers, whippets. Without fail they go after my dog and put their mouths around his neck. They pin him to the ground and without fail i hear, "he's just playing". Not fun for my scared, slobbered on dog.
To be fair to the owners, it IS just play and as a dog walker, I walk huskies, beagles, collies, spaniels, cockapoos and terriers who all enjoy that style of very rough, aggressive-looking play.

BUT owners do need to be aware that not all dogs have the same play style and they should be able to recall their dogs away from others if necessary.

userxx · 20/01/2022 19:50

@JohnnyEyebrows

God knows OP. They're not nice dogs to look at there for sure.

Why does it have to be about looks? Do you only associate with supermodels?

Greyhound's are regal looking in my eyes.

CoffeeWithCheese · 21/01/2022 11:34

When they remember to put the tongue back in the mouth, which way around is upright and how to orchestrate all the gangly legs going in the right way at the same time - I find them breathtakingly beautiful... the rest of the time - they're bloody eejits which is why I love them.

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