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BBC Licence fee to be abolished in 2027

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knark · 16/01/2022 12:29

Fucking Tories. Why do people vote for them? Why isn't there a viable opposition?

I would protest against this decision, but, oh, they've abolished that too.

OP posts:
Seemssounfair · 16/01/2022 13:28

@AlexaShutUp

I'm really gutted about this. The BBC is trusted and respected around the world and is part of the UK's "soft power". Personally, I'd happily pay the licence fee to sustain radio 4 alone. Instead, we'll end up with a bunch of commercial crap on all of the channels.

Fucking tories.

It was in the past when there were few other channels broadcasting news. Now it is not even trusted within the UK.

Colleagues in India watch it to keep up with news in the UK as we are a UK based company, but to translate that into "trust" is big leap. It is like saying I "trust" Fox News or CNN because I watched some American news.

DoNotGetADog · 16/01/2022 13:28

@daimbarsatemydogsbone

How do you work out that most people voted for the “perfectly viable opposition” to the Tories? If they had, then they would be in power, not the opposition.

Not just by seats either - the Tories got 45% of the total votes and Labour got 32%???

BurntToastAgain · 16/01/2022 13:28

Empire is not the opposite of democracy…

Less hyperbole would actually be useful.

BFPDec21 · 16/01/2022 13:31

How many parents would pay for CBeebies alone?

I certainly would. It's educational content that Netflix and YouTube don't come close to. The license fee covers that back to back educational programming that is free of adverts. No noisy LOL doll or Hot Wheels adverts chucked in to make parents feel guilty when they can't afford things.

Maybe more people need to look at the license fee as a BBC subscription?

tttigress · 16/01/2022 13:31

Surely they have had years to switch to a model that simply stops you watching if you haven't paid.

No need for prosecuting vulnerable people that way.

I am looking forward to it.

Snowiscold · 16/01/2022 13:31

@Ionlydomassiveones

Are the Director General? Your post certainly sums up the attitude of the ‘neutral’ BBC and why people now resent the licence fee. I will mourn the loss of the BBC but their blanket biased coverage of Brexit, overblown salaries to dummies like Tess Daly and Gary Linekar and London-centric wokeness which is so out of step of the rest of the country has done them no favours.
Which way do you think the BBC were biased on Brexit? I thought the problem with the BBC’s coverage was that it bent over backwards to be even-handed and treat both viewpoints as equally worthy.
JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 16/01/2022 13:32

Unfortunately based on seeing the continued popularity of ITVs stable of presenters and the dumbed down to Sun reader output, I don’t have much faith in any educational programmes being on BBC post 2028.

If the naive believe this is about saving pensioners money I have a bridge to sell them. Sky costs £70+ a month and is still full of ads. The BBC is about £10 a month and no ads. If anyone has been to America, you will see where tv is heading. Showbiz dross with the odd diamond, even documentaries have ridiculous rock music and crap conspiracies.

The right wing won’t stop until they see an equality divide akin to San Francisco which will be ignored and every once in a while when a wealthy person is inconvenienced or murdered it will make the news and the poor will be blamed. All of the channels will be focused on entertainment, no need to even pretend to try and inform, only the views of their sponsors count. Can’t believe a lot of the poor actually voted for this. Maybe they can be placated with meth and booze and blaming others. Who knows?

Well done Murdoch and the useful idiots.

x2boys · 16/01/2022 13:35

@BFPDec21

How many parents would pay for CBeebies alone?

I certainly would. It's educational content that Netflix and YouTube don't come close to. The license fee covers that back to back educational programming that is free of adverts. No noisy LOL doll or Hot Wheels adverts chucked in to make parents feel guilty when they can't afford things.

Maybe more people need to look at the license fee as a BBC subscription?

This is all your opinion ,we had sky ,so my kids watched Nickolodean ,Nick Jr ,Disney channels ,Cbeebies was incredibly twee in comparison IMO ,just because you think the BBC is great why can't you accept others don't ?
DdraigGoch · 16/01/2022 13:35

@the80sweregreat

How people can pay so much for sky just baffles me though , but then I've never had any of those channels. I suppose they will just go into business with Netflix or someone similar and it'll all just be online etc.
Britbox already exists as a joint venture between the BBC and ITV. Much more reasonable.

If people want to pay through the nose for expensive sports packages, let them, it's their money. Don't make licence payers cough up for one-size-fits-all.

Kshhuxnxk · 16/01/2022 13:37

@knark

The BBC produces consistently high quality tv and radio broadcasting, despite having their funding cut and cut again. They have journalistic freedom, free from commercial demands or editorial ownership of a single man.

I'm sick of capitalism and commercialism and consumerism. This government relies on soundbites and division and has no shame in legislating against those who would hold it to account.

Well you'll be able subscribe to it if you want to I imagine so if you believe you're in the majority it won't cost you much more that it does. You may be surprised though, I'm not sure you are in majority.
RedCandyApple · 16/01/2022 13:37

Like I said my kids don’t watch CBeebies and actually never have, my kids prefer to choose programs they want to watch rather than just what’s coming on next, which is why they prefer Netflix, YouTube and Disney plus

DdraigGoch · 16/01/2022 13:39

Why on Earth are people confusing reforming how public service broadcasting is funded with getting rid of it altogether?

Hyperbole. It's the same with the NHS. Any sniff of desperately-needed reform and it's "you want the American system and you want to barbecue nurses on piles of burning patients"

It's how people get discussion shut down.

TameDucksAtChatsworth · 16/01/2022 13:40

They are partisan-a man with half an eye knows that.

They make some ok programmes-sick of left agenda particularly on Radio 4-not really left, more woke.

Their news is very partisan and often imbued with some journalist's opinion.

They don't know what a woman is, apart from Emma on Women's Hour although she must be near her P45.

They make some shit, cleverest pupils in the 6th, type of stuff too.

They pay vastly inflated salaries to so called "talent"

If you don't watch a single BBC offering, you still have to pay if you have a working TV.

They barely reduce the licence fee for the blind.

They should not be funded. See how it works out for them.

Let them sink or let them swim.

lljkk · 16/01/2022 13:40

RIP Beeb. ❤️
I knew that Covid meant we would become poorer in so many ways, but had hoped you might escape. :(

So... who thinks which parts of Beeb will still exist in 2031?
My prediction is all that will remain will be sports coverage (Olympics, some footy) and BBC World (the international news channel -- that if you have ever seen it you know is very limited). Plus a very limited website that recycles news from other sources.

On telly No fiction, no cookery, no minority sports, no children's content, no culture, limited news. I suppose most people will like this outcome?

If any tv/radio or music radio still exists with a BBC badge, it will be full of adverts. R4 & R5 to merge and mostly look like R5 in future (with adverts). WS gone.

Svara · 16/01/2022 13:42

Maybe more people need to look at the license fee as a BBC subscription?
That would be fine if the BBC also looked at it as a subscription. No requirement to notify them that you don't need to subscribe and no threats through the post or by their door to door salespeople.

justanoldhack · 16/01/2022 13:44

Oh my god, the people on here... OP I feel the same as you. And interesting timing too, with Johnson's approval rating in the toilet. Quick! Bring out a shortsighted policy that the masses will love! And then when they realised what they lost, it'll be too late.

Christ, I hate this country sometimes

TameDucksAtChatsworth · 16/01/2022 13:44

@Svara. Great point!

x2boys · 16/01/2022 13:44

@lljkk

RIP Beeb. ❤️ I knew that Covid meant we would become poorer in so many ways, but had hoped you might escape. :(

So... who thinks which parts of Beeb will still exist in 2031?
My prediction is all that will remain will be sports coverage (Olympics, some footy) and BBC World (the international news channel -- that if you have ever seen it you know is very limited). Plus a very limited website that recycles news from other sources.

On telly No fiction, no cookery, no minority sports, no children's content, no culture, limited news. I suppose most people will like this outcome?

If any tv/radio or music radio still exists with a BBC badge, it will be full of adverts. R4 & R5 to merge and mostly look like R5 in future (with adverts). WS gone.

Well for those us who never watch the BBC or listen to the radio ,like myself yes I won't miss it ,but for those that do hopefully they can subscribe .
Svara · 16/01/2022 13:44

If you don't watch a single BBC offering, you still have to pay if you have a working TV.
This isn't true we only use ours as a computer monitor or for Netflix and we do not require a licence.

x2boys · 16/01/2022 13:46

@justanoldhack

Oh my god, the people on here... OP I feel the same as you. And interesting timing too, with Johnson's approval rating in the toilet. Quick! Bring out a shortsighted policy that the masses will love! And then when they realised what they lost, it'll be too late.

Christ, I hate this country sometimes

You hate this country because not all of us like the BBC ???.
TameDucksAtChatsworth · 16/01/2022 13:47

@justanoldhack

What's that then. Is that how the elite BBC refer to their paymasters-us-as "the masses".

I'm sure "the masses" will cope.

tunnocksreturns2019 · 16/01/2022 13:48

@AlexaShutUp

I'm really gutted about this. The BBC is trusted and respected around the world and is part of the UK's "soft power". Personally, I'd happily pay the licence fee to sustain radio 4 alone. Instead, we'll end up with a bunch of commercial crap on all of the channels.

Fucking tories.

This.
Likkleredridinghood · 16/01/2022 13:48

@BurntToastAgain because the folk (Nadine Dories et al) who are enforcing this are as usual being disingenuous with the truth.
This ‘whole BBC is fully of lefty liberal elites crap’ when virtually the whole of the British press is right wing and supportive of Tory governments, trying to create a culture war constantly and this sense that right wing voters are victims and being subjugated by metropolitan hand wringing do gooders. Really do despair about this country.

NotMyselfWithoutCoffee · 16/01/2022 13:49

Good, the BBC is rubbish and woke.

Jarbed · 16/01/2022 13:50

How are they going to fund it instead? I can't imagine there are many other ways so easy to avoid. I've never paid the licence fee in my life.

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