BBC Licence fee to be abolished in 2027

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Fucking Tories. Why do people vote for them? Why isn't there a viable opposition?

I would protest against this decision, but, oh, they've abolished that too.

@triggonomeetry the point is that we wont have local news. We wont have many British made shows. Maybe you don't care if all you watch are shows made abroad?

“The decision, confirmed by government sources, was briefed to the media as part of a range of measures designed to shore up public support for Boris Johnson after he has faced calls to resign as prime minister.”

….. reports the Mail on Sunday.

Hurrah for the Blackshirts!

AllThePogs don't worry, I don't think it will happen. It's probably a wake up call so that they get their house in order.

The BBC would be likely to drop Bitesize/educational content, local news, public affairs, parliament channel, funding orchestras, specialty radio stations, local sport, religious programming, speciality shows for niche interests, programming made around the UK as well as UK focused live action children's TV.

It would be just another commercial offer appealing to the masses. Is that what people want when they shrug and say "just become subscription"?

Yes, it is what people want. From your list, the only thing I’ve ever made use of is Bitesize and Cbeebies/CBBC, but even that has only been relevant to my life for a relatively short time. While I can appreciate all the good things about the BBC being what it is now, it just doesn’t provide my family with good value for money.

I’d miss the nature programmes if the BBC were to stop making them, but those would probably be the last thing to go considering they’re profitable for the BBC through being able to sell them to Netflix etc. We can continue to pay for those programmes that way if we choose to.

@LethargicActress Well that's a very sad position in my view. I view the BBC like any other public service - I'm happy to pay for things that benefit the UK as a whole and people who wouldn't be served by a commercial market, even if I personally don't use it.

Maybe there should be discounts on LF or based on earnings. But it's very sad that we are moving away from thinking about media as a public good to a personal thing. We'll all be worse off in the end as a nation and as a society.

……. aaaaand as expected, the tweet turns out not to be true.

There is just another review.

[quote BowerOfBramble]@Svara I dread to think what kind of hellscape you work in where radio 2 is on all day. Perhaps you’d like to listen to a commercial channel where you get all the same crap plus repetitive advertising though?[/quote]
Absolute radio has ads, but has a no repeat guarantee. I hope the posters work place pay their PRS and PPL licenses.

[quote AllThePogs]@triggonomeetry the point is that we wont have local news. We wont have many British made shows. Maybe you don't care if all you watch are shows made abroad?[/quote]
I don't know where you live, but we have several local, commercial radio stations, and excellent local news on ITV.

@phishy

The main point of your post was that only the BBC challenges the govt, which just isn't true

I know what my own point was thanks.

You didn't even know who owns Sky News so maybe you should check your general knowledge before trying to get people to pad out their facts

Happy to and did. I asked you a question, I didn’t realise that’d be so triggering for you. Apologies.

Radio 2 - UKIP Boomer Radio:

Music you can pretend you won World War II to

Jeremy Vine's Old Gits racist phone in

Johnnie Walker-Frame's Sounds of the Seventies That Are Now 50 Years Old

I like the BBC & we need a independent service. I think the iplayer gets forgotten because people have leapt onto subscription services. I dont rate Disney/Netflix/Amazon.

@AllThePogs what Lincslady said. ITV does decent local news (not that I ever really watch it because I'd rather read it)

What British shows do we think we're going to miss? As I've said I don't watch BBC / iPlayer and the last three things I've watched on TV have been "British" (Killer Nanny, Harlan Coben series, The Lost Daughter movie).

Again though, this makes absolutely no difference to me considering I see myself as no more British than I am American - I'm Scottish, so who cares if a show is set in Manchester or the Bay Area when there is probably equal chance of the token Scot in either (if we're saying that's what's important 🤔)

No ITV's areas are too large. Their local news is of zero relevance to the City I live in.

ITV occasionally does a good British drama, but not often. I do want to see dramas and comedies about British life. It is not about accents, it is about our TV representing British life.

And local commercial radio does not really do news. Maybe a bulletin of - local woman murdered etc. And that will be it. Basically the kind of thing the national news will cover anyway.

Don't think it should be scrapped up - but it should be certainly shrunk...

It should do things that commercial broadcasters would not -

Maybe a tv channel - similar to BBC 4, with educational kids tv during the day, a cherrypick of things from other channel...

Do ditto with Radio 4...

World service

That should save a fair bit...

@AllThePogs

Look at ITV, that is what we will end up with. Virtually all repeats, and a lot of dross. For anyone looking for a good news channel, Al Jazeera is good. They do invest in proper journalism.

So what's different between the ITV output you describe, and much of what's on the BBC?

ITV has produced plenty of good dramas in the last 20 years. Downton Abbey, Heartbeat etc.

For that matter, Netflix's A Series of Unfortunate Events was a great adaptation, and Disney's The Mandalorian blows the current Doctor Who out of the water.

Yes, the BBC can produce some great content. But so can everyone else.

@DdraigGoch are you serious about comparing ITVs drama and comedy output to BBC. It really is not comparable.
Heartbeat is not a good drama and finished in 2010 - 12 years ago.
Downton Abbey finished in 2015.

That suggests you can't remember any recent ITV drama or comedies that are any good.
The only one I know of is Its a Sin.

And what I want is dramas about British life. That is what we will lose. There are great Korean dramas. But will I really not be able to watch anything good based in Britain. Does Britain not matter at all? As if we are some little backwater.

Daily Express: Dorries: Licence fee will be axed.

UNTRUE

@AllThePogs love Kdramas! I'm not sure what you mean exactly by British Life that's not covered on Channel 4 though?

Can you honestly say you'd be happy to pay £26.50 then £13 a month for Disney+ if you genuinely had no interest in its offerings and never used it because some people think Disney movies are important for their kids and they wouldn't be able to keep producing films at the same rate?

I don't see how it's any different?

[quote AllThePogs]@DdraigGoch are you serious about comparing ITVs drama and comedy output to BBC. It really is not comparable.
Heartbeat is not a good drama and finished in 2010 - 12 years ago.
Downton Abbey finished in 2015.

That suggests you can't remember any recent ITV drama or comedies that are any good.
The only one I know of is Its a Sin.[/quote]
Heartbeat was good, it ran for 18 series. The reason I haven't included anything more recent is that that's how long I haven't bothered with live TV.

Does anyone realise that if the BBC didn't exist that virtually all of the UK national radio stations would be lost? Great news for Putin!

Asking for a friend.

I keep seeing peaky blinders referred to. It's on netflix already.

Many people genuinely do not watch or have anything to do with BBC offerings. I don't watch any live news, I use twitter/support my local newspaper/national news sources online.

The children's TV market is swamped outside of cbeebies.

I haven't watched traditional TV in a decade. How we watch series has changed on a general level.

I support an opt in model to BBC. It shouldn't be criminalised to accidently watch a live stream on YouTube ffs.

I'm baffled how so many mumsnet users really don't understand that people may not actually like BBC content

I don't listen to BBC radio either. Most of the time I stream music or podcasts from my phone in the car