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Really weird kids’ books from the past

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aweebitlost · 11/01/2022 21:30

I was reading the DC The Elephant & the Bad Baby tonight and it struck me how very odd it is.

An elephant takes a baby for a joyride to nick a load of food and then everyone is cross with the baby for not saying please?!

Then there’s the Long Slide with the 3 stuffed animals that climb a giant slide, vomit, meet some witches etc and don’t seem to get any pleasure out of the experience.

AIBU or were some kids’ books from the past plain bizarre?! Any other good ones people can think of?

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Coronawireless · 15/01/2022 16:43

Have just ordered Grinny for my DCs!!

ArbleMarchTFruitbat · 15/01/2022 17:29

@Coronawireless If your DC enjoy Grinny, be sure to get them the sequel 'You Remember Me' which is equally brilliant.

PatriotCanes · 15/01/2022 18:29

Inwas given two books for my DC which would never, ever, get published today. Postman Pat gets Fat - basically PP goes on his rounds and gets stuffed with food by everyone he delivers to. Goes to church on Sunday and can't fit into his suit. The next week as everyone offers him food on his rounds he says "no thanks, I'm dieting" Next Sunday his suit fits. End of book.

The next one was where Postman Pat does some sort of rally driving cross country course in his van (the build up is about whether Royal Mail would let him use his work van.) Of course he thrashes everyone else and wins a medal and declares "it's only what I do every day"

We had ^years" of the kids declaring they were dieting or only doing what they did everyday. I dread to think what people thought Grin

Bortles · 15/01/2022 19:44

I love love love the Polly and the Wolf books. And Goodnight Moon but youve hit the nail on the head about the perspective being weird!

I have a copy of The Doubtful Guest by Edward Gorey that my dd loves. I've stopped short of letting her have The Gashlycrumb Tinies though.

YesILikeItToo · 15/01/2022 21:04

How to Eat Fried Worms is another of the books I have podcasted about - I can’t believe how ‘weird’ my reading seems to have been as a child. It was written by Thomas Rockwell, who was Norman Rockwell’s son.

Earthrocknroll · 15/01/2022 22:10

@CeratopsofthePharoahs

The Shrinking of Treehorn. That was just plain odd.

Anyone remember Flossie Teacakes Fur Coat? Every time she borrowed her sisters fur coat she'd turn into a teenager.

I loved Flossie! Still have one of my old books here somewhere. Tree horn was great too. The Neverending story The Chrysalids

Del Del was both incredibly sad and terrifying

Empty world
The Nargun and the stars
The girl from tomorrow
Children of the dust
All early teen books but wonderful, weird and creepy.

Seashore2018 · 16/01/2022 00:51

@Ormally

Did you also have Midnight is a Place? (They made a series about it, but it was the written word that managed to poke my imagination into not erasing, ever, the description of a child sprinting under a square mill press to grab a slub off the centre of an as-yet-unglued cheap carpet.)
OMG that image has been in my head - and just as you say it's unerasable despite my best efforts - since reading that book around 12. But I'd forgotten completely what it was called or who the author was, and I have periodically wondered over the years. The things you learn on Mumsnet!

(Also YYYY to Nicholas Fisk. Trillions was my favourite. Out of print now. Found a secondhand copy and gave it to DC for Christmas. DC initially ignored it as the copy is old and dog-eared. I then read a chapter aloud and left it by the bed and DC hasn't been able to put it down since Grin)

Seashore2018 · 16/01/2022 00:54

Also agree with the FUCKING TERRIFYING Bad Banksia Men. Christ. Still don't like looking at actual banksias. The stuff you read in childhood goes in deep.

Earthrocknroll · 16/01/2022 01:16

@Seashore2018

Also agree with the FUCKING TERRIFYING Bad Banksia Men. Christ. Still don't like looking at actual banksias. The stuff you read in childhood goes in deep.
Nightmares here too. I really doubt you’d find them in kids books today.

A fish out of Water was another one I remember. Boy buys fish, pet store owner warns boy

‘When you feed a fish, never feed him a lot.
So much and no more! Never more than a spot,or something may happen. You never know what.’

Boy disobeys, feeds fish too much and it outgrows bowl, bath, house and ends up in local swimming pool. Pet shop owner dives in, does some magic trick and reduces fish to original size.
Repeat phrase
‘When you feed a fish, never feed him a lot.
So much and no more! Never more than a spot, or something may happen. You never know what.‘
End of story. I used to love it.

Tinuviel · 16/01/2022 03:17

I came on to mention 'The Phantom Tollbooth' and 'Grinny' but PPs have beaten me to it. Orlando's Magic Carpet is also quite weird. It was a book at my grandma's house which I absolutely loved. Orlando is a marmelade cat and flies off on a magic carpet to other countries. At some point he smokes a hubba bubba pipe/hookah!

nw89 · 16/01/2022 03:44

The Elephant and the Bad Baby was my favourite book as a child! I never realised it was so popular Smile

SantaClawsServiette · 16/01/2022 03:51

@aweebitlost

I work in a library, and I can say that the vast majority of the picture books now are dead boring.

Oh this is so true! How do they all get published? I find so many are either completely saccharine or over reliant on toilet humour. I do think some contemporary picture book writers are utterly brilliant though - Chris Haughton for example.

You know what would be amazing - if all the books mentioned in this thread were together in a library. For kids to read.
Geppili · 16/01/2022 04:12

Oh my god! Grinny terrified me! I reread it aged 50 and it still terrified me!

Geppili · 16/01/2022 04:13

Wind on the Moon by Eric Linklater is pretty weird!

LadyLaSnack · 16/01/2022 07:03

@Ginpostersyndrome

I remember a book of stories that my little sibling had called something like Stories For Six Year Olds. There was a couple who fell in love as small children and she always had a ribbon round her neck. Every year on his birthday he'd ask her to take the ribbon off and every year she'd say "no please don't ask that". Then one year she gave in and undid the ribbon and her head fell off. And how sad he was. The end. That's the weirdest one I ever read.
@Ginpostersyndrome Ah! I remember the horrific story about the ribbon and the head falling off, but I think it was in a book called In a Dark Dark Room, which was generally absolutely terrifying. There were a variety of stories which after reading gave me real childhood insomnia and terrors, but the one about the ribbon, and another one about a boy and a graveyard and a sweater were the the worst.

Wiki lists the stories in that book as follows:

**"The Green Ribbon”
The third story in the book, "The Green Ribbon", follows a girl named Jenny. She always wears a green ribbon around her neck and meets a boy named Alfred. She refuses to reveal to Alfred why she wears the ribbon, and even when the two are wed, she wears the ribbon every day. After reaching old age, Jenny lets Alfred untie the ribbon while she is on her deathbed, causing her head to fall onto the floor.[2] "The Green Ribbon" is derived from a French story of unknown origin, which was popularized by Washington Irving's 1824 short story "The Adventure of the German Student".[3][4]

"The Teeth"
A kid is hurrying home and comes upon a man. The kid asks the man for the time, and when he replies, the kid sees he has long teeth, scaring him away. He runs and comes upon another man, who asks him why he is running before revealing that he has even longer teeth. The kid once again runs away, encountering a third man with yet longer teeth and finally running all the way home.

"In a Graveyard"
A "very short and very fat" woman asks three corpses in a graveyard if she will be thin like them when she is dead. She is surprised when the corpses spring to life to respond in the affirmative.

"The Night it Rained"
A man is driving in the rain at night when he sees a small boy alone in the rain and offers the child a ride home. The child, Jim, is visibly shivering in his car, so the man gives him a sweater to put on, dropping him off safely with the sweater. When the driver returns for his sweater the next day and knocks on the door, a woman in the home says that Jim was her son, but that he had died almost a year ago. The man apologizes and goes to visit Jim's grave, where he finds his sweater.

"In a Dark, Dark Room"
This story is presented as a series of "dark, dark" places and objects which narrow in scope from a woods to a house within the woods to a room within the house and so on. The final object in the series, a dark, dark box, is suddenly revealed to contain a ghost.

"The Pirate"
Ruth goes to visit her relatives and is playing with her cousin Susan when Susan tells her a pirate once lived in the room Ruth is staying in. Ruth boldly claims that she does not believe in ghosts and she is not afraid. She goes to bed that night, and checks everywhere and finds nothing. When she gets in bed, she laughs and says "There's no one in this room but me" and a scary voice from nowhere says "AND ME!".

"The Ghost of John"
A short limerick style poem about a skeleton.**

I’ve found the terrifying pics from the one with the ribbon, and there is a good buzz feed thread about it here.

www.buzzfeed.com/lyapalater/for-everyone-thats-still-fucked-up-over-that-stor

I also had Stories For Six Year Olds but don’t remember it having anything scary, or any pictures (though it was back in the 80s so I could be remembering wrong!).

Thanks for the reminder either way (shudder)Grin

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LadyLaSnack · 16/01/2022 07:41

Another book which absolutely TERRIFIED my was a book written for teenagers about people trying to survive the aftermath of nuclear war.

I probably read it when I was 11ish and I think it changed my entire life view. It was horrendous.

The two particular scenes that stuck in mind are:

Teenager goes to the river after the bomb (possibly to try to get water) on the way there sees the walking wounded trying to get away from ground zero all with hair and skin burned off. Once she gets to the river it is full of bodies and body parts drifting down.

And: once nuclear winter has fully set in, teenagers mother discovers she is pregnant, and there is a conversation as to whether conception happened pregnant or post bomb. Whichever way round it was, baby is born deformed with no eyes and from memory survives long enough to happily bash around in a rubbish heap, but eventually I think is left outside in the cold to die (this being the kind path for some reason).

It was horrific!!

Google tells me it might be Children of the Dust, which is possible as there is something familiar about the cover, but googling doesn’t bring up these two particular horrific scenes so maybe it was something else.

I think I read somewhere that the American government commissioned nuclear fiction for young people in the post Cold War era.

And speaking of nuclear apocalyptic fiction for children - When the Wind blows by Raymond Briggs (artwork in it very similar in style to The Snowmsn).

It was not as graphic, but still terrifying as a child! And very sad.

musicalfrog · 16/01/2022 08:29

OMG thoroughly creeped out now, thank you @LadyLaSnack 😅

GorgeousLadyofWrestling · 16/01/2022 08:48

I read a book series when I was a kid about a boy helping a group of talking otters save the world. There was one vivid scene when they were in a a car being chased through a dangerous mountain pass, and another scene where the otters were locked in lobster pots so they would drown.

I googled it a while back and this came up www.fantasticfiction.com/m/shirley-rousseau-murphy/nightpool.htm

But I don’t remember it being fantasy - it was more talking otters in the regular, normal world.

Clawdy · 16/01/2022 08:57

Most of Maurice Sendak 's books are weird but wonderful. Outside Over There is about a baby kidnapped by goblins, and apparently inspired by the Charles Lindbergh case. Have to say my kids loved it!

bringonyourwreckingball · 16/01/2022 09:10

My sister had a deeply weird book called how does the tsar eat potatoes. Loved Phoebe and the hot water bottles but I can see why it’s no longer in print

WhatWouldKalindaDo · 16/01/2022 09:11

Clever Polly and the Stupid Wolf always used to creep me out.

It was the story of a little girl and a wolf who's always trying to eat her. She outwits him every time, but he gets very close!

I remember one story where he captures her and puts her in a cage in a dark room to fatten her up. Every day he goes in there to see if her arms are fatter but she sticks her elbow out instead! This book was in the library at my primary school Shock

Campervanlife4me · 16/01/2022 10:19

The Hairy Toe! Scary book for little ones but the children in my nursery absolutely loved it!!

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 16/01/2022 10:30

I was given lots of Dr Dolittle books as a child but even at the time I was disturbed by the racism in them. I had the original books from the 40's and 50's, not the sanitised modern versions.

Also I found Dr Seuss books really disturbing. I remember our teacher reading the Cat in the Hat to us when I was 7 and it left me really anxious about being in the house on my own, even in my mum was in the garden. Just in case a cat came to the door!

ddl1 · 16/01/2022 10:52

I LOVED 'The Cat in the Hat', but I know other people who found it scary.

I also loved 'A Fish Out of Water', the 'Clever Polly' books, 'The Phantom Tollbooth' and several others mentioned here.

I never read the post-nuclear book that pp have mentioned. I did love 'The Chrysalids' (not strictly a children's book, but everyone I know, who's read it, read it as a child or teenager). The scariest post-nuclear book that I've read is Hugh Scott's 'Why Weeps the Brogan' - very good but quite terrifying.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 16/01/2022 10:57

I think the Mr Men books are very weird.

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