To ask what you like to pay per day for childcare

[Tillsforthrills]

In your opinion, how much should:

Nannies be paid per hour (excluding or including their tax)

Childminders be paid per hour (considering their self employed status which means their hourly rate is much less when costs have been factored, such as their holidays, sickness, food, wipes, nappies, entertainment, toys, tax etc)

Nurseries - with having to pay staff, overheads

Considering the very long hours that accommodate parents travelling to and from work.
It’d help if you state where you are as fees vary so much.

When my friends and I discuss our childcare costs it’s accepted that it works out expensive each month. Do you begrudge the fees?

£78 per day so works out at £7.40 an hour that they are open. This is the weekly FT/5 days rate equivalent, the daily rate is £90. Nursery in London. It’s a lot of money, we’re very lucky that we can afford it but I’d feel a lot happier about paying over £20k per year if the wonderful staff were paid what they were worth.

@Troublesometooth

What I would like to pay, and what good childcare is worth are different things!

I would like my childcare to be free.

For DD I pay;
£3.60 an hour for a local charity run playgroup.
£58.50 per day in a private nursery.

For DS
£5.50 for breakfast club
£8.50 for after school club

I used to pay a childminder £3.50 an hour.

I think childminders/nannies etc should have a decent salary. But given that they are employed because a parent is working, it isn’t realistic for all of that parents wage to then go on the childcare.

You think that nannies and CM’s *should have a decent wage but because working parents are engaging their services, effectively you think they shouldn’t because most of parents pay are for paying childcare, so they would have to earn less to subsidise the parents?

@PanettoneMoly I agree it’s a shame they’re not receiving a decent wage. The owner of the nursery will be earning a decent profit.

@3WildOnes

I paid £14 ph for a nanny, £10ph for a childminder, £25 for after school care and £90 pd for nursery. I don’t begrudge the staff/employees their wages but I do wish that childcare was subsidised as it is in many other countries. I don’t earn a lot so almost my whole wage goes on childcare & travel.

It would make a huge difference to parents and ensure providers can flourish with their business and earn well for their very valuable work in childcare.

Shame the government would rather put billions elsewhere!

[quote Tillsforthrills]@PanettoneMoly I agree it’s a shame they’re not receiving a decent wage. The owner of the nursery will be earning a decent profit.[/quote]
Are you sure? www.nurseryworld.co.uk/news/article/sharp-rise-in-number-of-nurseries-making-a-loss-survey

I pay £6ph, well actually, that would be if I utilised the entire time available and dropped at 7.30 - which I never have and never will. So its about £6.60ph for me in the Midlands.

Considering all the activities they do. Nappies are included. They get 3 meals a day. Cared for by people qualified in childcare who monitor their development and teach them....I think £6ph is an absolute bargain.

Of course, the monthly bill for two children FT doesnt feel like a bargain. It's something I've been conflicted about since I had kids. The value per hour vs the cost per month.

I pay £5 per hour to a child minder in the midlands. Nappies and snacks are included but parents have to provide lunch

we pay £4.25/hr for a childminder in SW England. she has max 3 kids at once, and one of the 3 days my DS goes its only him, so 1-1 care. we pay £10/week for food (3 days a week) and we provide the nappies and wipes as we use cloth.

CM pays for entry to groups etc. although I have offered.

£4.25/hr isn't much at all. we'd pay more if she asked! we chose her because she's great, very local, and seems to do it for "fun" - she is ex nursery manager, retired but got bored so started childminding! it's a very family homey environment and DS loves it. however childcare is our biggest expense after the mortgage, so ideally we wouldn't pay out anymore!

childcare is so expensive for parents, but lots of those who provide it don't seem to get paid much.

When we last had a full time nanny we were paying about £18ph and to be honest I resented that as she wasn’t very good (had no interest in child development, used the hours when the youngest was in preschool to do her own thing and did nursery duties after she picked him up despite being paid for that time, was regularly late picking the older kids up from school etc and not once since she left gave any of the children asked after her). Our best nanny started on about £12ph and finished on about £16ph and although I think she was totally worth her salary, I did struggle with the amount of sick leave she took in the last year. We paid in full but had to take unpaid leave ourselves and ran ourselves ragged trying to work and manage the kids sometimes when it wasn’t possible to take leave. I have to admit that I’m relieved now that everyone is in school.

We pay £4.50 ph for a childminder. I'm happy with this.

We live where childcare is hugely subsided, but everyone pays almost 50% tax in exchange. I’m sure there would be uproar in the uk if everyone suddenly paid way more tax. As obviously the childcare aspect only benefits those with small children.
So yes it’s far cheaper, but it’s not ‘free’. You basically spend 10 years before children paying huge amounts to account for potential benefits.

I intended to quote your message before the snotty one you sent. Just because the childminder may have more children they are still looking after them all . Why should childrens parents pay less because the childminder looks after more children ?

I am not sure how you can compare such different forms of childcare and there are also huge regional variations. It’s a bit like those threads where people ask about monthly mortgage repayments or what is reasonable to spend on groceries per week…

I think the bottom line is that for most people childcare is too expensive - but at the same time childcare providers need to be paid properly - so the only answer is for childcare to be properly subsidised by the government.

We paid £40 per 10 hour day for nursery so £4 an hour
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