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Post should refuse to deliver?

32 replies

dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:17

My poor postman has just had to open a five bar gate then close it after him, walk 100 yards up to my house then walk 100 yards back open the gate and close it again. JUST to deliver a leaflet from some toilet roll company that says "wipe your bum, change the world". Not one other piece of mail. What a total waste of time and effort for the poor postman!

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dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:19

No name and address so must be delivering to all the houses! How about STOP PRINTING RUBBISH, SAVE THE TREES!

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dudsville · 10/01/2022 11:19

I agree. I recycle, but the fact that this nonsense continues being made and distributed wrankles.

Winniemarysarah · 10/01/2022 11:21

Can’t you install a cheap mailbox on your gate and let him know he can still any mail that’s obviously junk in there? Alternatively I’m sure there’s something you can do that notifies Royal Mail that you don’t want to receive any sort of junk mail and you get taken off wherever delivery list it is

dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:22

We have a post box on the gate but they do not use it. If you know how to tell royal mail not to deliver junk please let me know.

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WhiteXmas21 · 10/01/2022 11:22

We signed up to mail preference to try to stop this stuff; they don’t stop it all, but they only deliver the junk if there is ‘real’ mail to deliver with it.
Helps a bit and should prevent the scenario OP describes.

Newyearnewyearnew · 10/01/2022 11:24

Put a 'no junk mail' sign on your gatepost? Get a letter box for near the gate? Tell royal mail you no longer want to receive junk mail? (details on how can be found here www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/post/stop-getting-junk-mail/). If enough people sign up not to get junk it would no longer be worthwhile printing and distributing it. There's lots you can do to prevent this.

dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:25

@Newyearnewyearnew

Put a 'no junk mail' sign on your gatepost? Get a letter box for near the gate? Tell royal mail you no longer want to receive junk mail? (details on how can be found here www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/post/stop-getting-junk-mail/). If enough people sign up not to get junk it would no longer be worthwhile printing and distributing it. There's lots you can do to prevent this.
Have done all of this but it keeps coming!
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SmallPrawnEnergy · 10/01/2022 11:27

I believe the junk mail industry helps prop up the Royal Mail. I would scrap it too, it makes me irrationally angry.

dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:28

My friend writes on her junk mail "return to sender" and puts in back in the letter box.

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SmallPrawnEnergy · 10/01/2022 11:32

@Newyearnewyearnew

Put a 'no junk mail' sign on your gatepost? Get a letter box for near the gate? Tell royal mail you no longer want to receive junk mail? (details on how can be found here www.citizensadvice.org.uk/consumer/post/stop-getting-junk-mail/). If enough people sign up not to get junk it would no longer be worthwhile printing and distributing it. There's lots you can do to prevent this.
No junk Mail stickers are as pointless as the junk mail themselves. RM are legally obliged to post all addressed mail, which a lot of the junk is (even if it just states “to occupier”. The opt out of “junk mail” sign up form only stops unaddressed mail and even then you’ve still got all the crap being posted from other distributors. Until junk mail senders pay Royal Mail, rm won’t want to do anything to stop that.
TrophyWinner · 10/01/2022 11:32

The Royal Mail's been paid to deliver that though. You'll be complaining when they go to weekly deliveries because nothing else is viable

dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:34

@TrophyWinner

The Royal Mail's been paid to deliver that though. You'll be complaining when they go to weekly deliveries because nothing else is viable
Maybe they are but its very bad for the planet!
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dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:35

@TrophyWinner

The Royal Mail's been paid to deliver that though. You'll be complaining when they go to weekly deliveries because nothing else is viable
I would not complain at weekly post.
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Bigassbeebuzzbuzz · 10/01/2022 11:39

These drive me bonkers too. They come through the front door and go straight out the back door into the recycling.
What a waste of trees.

TrophyWinner · 10/01/2022 11:45

Maybe they are but its very bad for the planet!

So is living in the middle of nowhere in a house bigger than you need Wink

WhatHaveIFound · 10/01/2022 11:46

You can opt out of unaddressed mail here but it does stop everything so you wouldn't get any important coucil/government leaflets.

bigbluebus · 10/01/2022 11:47

If you're going to complain then complain to the company that originated it - not to Royal Mail. The Royal Mail are paid to deliver these items. Are you suggesting that they turn down business in what is an already competitive industry.

Many years ago my DH worked for Royal Mail. Anyone caught calling such leaflets 'junk mail' would have been reprimanded. It pays the wages!
It's not the Royal Mail at fault here. And the postman should consider the piece of 'unsolicited' mail every bit as important and your birthday card from Auntie Joan!

ponkydonkey · 10/01/2022 11:48

Posties choose weather to post junk mail, they get paid extra to do so

girlmom21 · 10/01/2022 11:50

Delivering junk mail is a service Royal Mail offer now. They don't advertise it as Junk Mail delivery though!

MorningStarling · 10/01/2022 11:52

Maybe they are but its very bad for the planet!

As long as you recycle it it's not that bad for the planet. Most paper comes from managed forests where more trees are planted than chopped down. Generally a paper company doesn't wander into some ancient forestland and hack trees down. They buy it from forests where the trees are specifically grown for that purpose.

The best way to stamp out junk mail is for everyone to boycott any company that sends unsolicited communications. But that would involve you making sacrifices and people are generally unwilling to do that. It's all about what everyone else should be doing, not what I'm doing.

PS If you're that concerned about the environment it's very inefficient to be living somewhere that's 100 yards from the road! Move somewhere closer to other people. Where I live the postman can service hundreds of people within that hundred yards.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 10/01/2022 11:52

Once I have some junk with a reply paid envelope I put all the other junk in it and send it off. I know it's bad for the planet but it will keep RM going and the companies have to pay someone to open the return envelopes.

TrophyWinner · 10/01/2022 11:55

Seeing as you're so concerned about the postman's welfare, I imagine he'd prefer to deliver junk mail than no mail, on the basis he probably needs the job.

dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 11:59

@TrophyWinner

Maybe they are but its very bad for the planet!

So is living in the middle of nowhere in a house bigger than you need Wink

Who says I have a big house? How do you know who lives here?
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dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 12:02

@MorningStarling

Maybe they are but its very bad for the planet!

As long as you recycle it it's not that bad for the planet. Most paper comes from managed forests where more trees are planted than chopped down. Generally a paper company doesn't wander into some ancient forestland and hack trees down. They buy it from forests where the trees are specifically grown for that purpose.

The best way to stamp out junk mail is for everyone to boycott any company that sends unsolicited communications. But that would involve you making sacrifices and people are generally unwilling to do that. It's all about what everyone else should be doing, not what I'm doing.

PS If you're that concerned about the environment it's very inefficient to be living somewhere that's 100 yards from the road! Move somewhere closer to other people. Where I live the postman can service hundreds of people within that hundred yards.

What a very silly comment to make about moving. Who do you know who I live with? Is it a farm producing food for the country?
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dotherighthing · 10/01/2022 12:03

@TrophyWinner

Seeing as you're so concerned about the postman's welfare, I imagine he'd prefer to deliver junk mail than no mail, on the basis he probably needs the job.
I think you just like to argue for the sake of it.
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