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To not list all of the houses faults when we come to sell it?

105 replies

NC223344 · 09/01/2022 18:37

It’s wonky, damp, some radiators don’t work, taps are linked up wrong way hot/cold, windows are shit, oven not actually screwed into the unit, it’s built on a brook.. you get the picture the list goes on.

Anyway, if I want to sell it do I have to tell people this crap or do they just figure it out themselves sold as seen type thing.
If I have to say then nobody will ever buy it, surely.

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HollowTalk · 09/01/2022 18:38

If you are going to buy a house yourself, would you like to be told about issues like this?

NC223344 · 09/01/2022 18:39

@HollowTalk

If you are going to buy a house yourself, would you like to be told about issues like this?
I wasn’t told..
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vickyc90 · 09/01/2022 18:39

Sold as seen tho be aware that things like that will come up on the survey

lightand · 09/01/2022 18:39

I have often wondered this too.
Someone I know has now discovered quite a list of problems.
As far as I know, beucase surveyors dont have to look into every nook and cranny, some or all of the faults were not found by the surveyors?

AgathaMystery · 09/01/2022 18:41

The taps are easy to swap. Screw the oven in, bleed the rads and buy new valves.

JabNotInArm · 09/01/2022 18:42

Are you in England. OP?

If so, Certain things you have to be disclosed if asked (flooding, conflict with neighbours etc) and you'll be asked to complete paperwork explaining any issues. For many structural issues though you're not obliged to let sellers know and the onus is on them to get a surveyor to report on the state of the property.

Saying that, if you don't want to risk sales falling through it's often worth making clear things likely to come up (ie rights of access, whether the property is listed, etc) early on.

JabNotInArm · 09/01/2022 18:43

Let buyers know, sorry

colourfulpuddles · 09/01/2022 18:44

Why would you not just fix them before selling?

Kpo58 · 09/01/2022 18:44

Definitely tell people. I wasn't told that the house that I was buying had a severe moth infestation until the day after the exchange of contracts. Thankfully we didn't move in straight away, so could deal with it. It would of been awful to have only found out about it after moving in.

NC223344 · 09/01/2022 18:45

As far as I know, beucase surveyors dont have to look into every nook and cranny, some or all of the faults were not found by the surveyors?

They didn’t turn on the taps or check the functionality of the rads when we bought it. Neither did I though

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comeundone · 09/01/2022 18:47

No one ever tells the truth, unfortunately. We were sold a house with an en suite. There was evidence of a long ago past leak on the ceiling of the room beneath, we assumed that anyone same would have fixed it and lightly used the en suite. Mercifully never used the bath. Had they fixed the leak? Had they fuck. The neighbours knew when we asked that they'd had a leak and just stopped using the ensuite altogether. We're awaiting it being ripped out to start again now so that pipes don't drain into the ceiling. In their defence the former owners had passed away and perhaps their children didn't know about this nor the absence of maintenance/ any expenditure on the place since 1992.

NC223344 · 09/01/2022 18:47

@colourfulpuddles

Why would you not just fix them before selling?
The list will never end, the house is incredibly old and it’s not actually as easy as you might think. As an example: You can’t just switch the tap pipes. They’ve been tiled in so it’s a headache that will mean tiling and what not.

We have just lived with it.

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user1493494961 · 09/01/2022 18:48

It's up to the buyers to have a survey.

comeundone · 09/01/2022 18:51

That said, fix the fixable (why would you live with these things?), be honest about things that are not fixable.
@Kpo58 I'd forgotten the carpet moths. Bastards. Mercifully our couch was leather and we took a few weeks to move in.

EngTech · 09/01/2022 18:53

That is what a survey tells the prospective buyer

mrscotton · 09/01/2022 18:53

To be honest, we purchased a house that looked 'perfect' but the more we lived in it, the more we realised that things were done incorrectly. We have replaced our kitchen & bathroom last year due to expecting our first child and was amazed at some of the things we found. However we have rectified all these things now and quite glad we got to do it ourselves as we know it has been done properly.
We have lived here nearly 6 years and got no intention of moving in the foreseeable.

comeundone · 09/01/2022 18:56

And salt half the stuff doesn't come up on survey, like us our surveyor noted historical water damage, and like us assumed that sane people fix things that damage your house. Not just shut the door. Would have been floorboards up and panels off job to uncover. Honesty would have told us how soon we needed to sort it and wouldn't have impacted or decision to buy.

AnotherSillawithanS · 09/01/2022 18:56

I hope a new buyer surveys the shit out of your house.

What a shitty thing to do.

Have you no integrity.

NC223344 · 09/01/2022 18:56

why would you live with these things?

We sort of have fixed the fixable, when we moved in the list was overwhelmingly long. There are still things left that are either too much imo to repair compared to how irritating it is to live with (like the tap thing) or you can’t actually do anything about (brook, wonkiness).

The oven I agree we could just bash a screw in, it only ever comes out if you really aggressively pull ok the door😂how often does that happen?!

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user2908143823142536475859708 · 09/01/2022 18:56

In Scotland, if the central heating or appliances like lights, oven, cooker are not working the seller liable for the repair if they didn't disclose.

Also liable if you don't disclose neighbours disputes, common land (if within your boundary) and a whole host of other stuff.

Most buyers will run the taps to check water pressure and look for marks on carpets and things anyway.

NC223344 · 09/01/2022 18:57

Surveyor didn’t/wouldn’t pick any of this up Silla, relax.

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comeundone · 09/01/2022 18:57

Sadly, not salt. We had a full rics survey not just the mortgage co one.

CSJobseeker · 09/01/2022 18:57

@AgathaMystery

The taps are easy to swap. Screw the oven in, bleed the rads and buy new valves.
Yes, a fair few of the things you list are fixable with good maintenance.
AnotherSillawithanS · 09/01/2022 18:58

Then it's really shitty of you isn't it.

NC223344 · 09/01/2022 18:58

That’s annoying, how frequently does this happen since it’s happened to a few on here (including me). Does everyone just not say then? New to this

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