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To ask if I should go NC with my mum?

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strawberrycheesecake1989 · 07/01/2022 20:56

Hello all,

Going to try and make this as brief as possible otherwise I could write a book.

My mum has been an alcoholic my entire life. We were always very close and when you’re little she would be nice to you when she was drunk but the moment you got about 10/11 and would start commenting on her drinking you were suddenly a villain. She had quite a tough upbringing. My father died when I was a baby very suddenly so that really triggered her. That’s not to say she was fine before he died. She’s very cruel and abusive when she drinks. As a child she try and physical fight me and my siblings, drag us out of our rooms, try and boot our bedroom door down if we barricaded them. You could never relax and sleep properly because you were just waiting for her to burst into your room and smash something or spit on you. When she was/is sober, she’s great, very hands on etc. When she eventually sobers up (sometimes she’ll go in week longer benders) you would have to pretend like nothing has happened. If you mentioned anything or tried to say ‘you did x it really upset me’ she would get angry and say ‘I’m just trying to do my best are you really going to do this to me’.

So my life was spent with her being completely horrendous and out of control drunk and then when she is sober you had to pretend nothing happened.

For context, we were very comfortable financially, I think that is how things seemed/semi were ok.

I also want to say, I was quite a tricky teen. I guess I was quite demanding and would go out a lot. In my defence, I felt very lost and angry as a teen. Didn’t know any family, my mum had lots of different boyfriends. I just felt very messed up.

Fast forward, Im married with a baby. My husband had a drinking problem when we met. He has just graduated from uni and was going through a breakdown as a result of a family crisis. He did things like say horrible stuff to me, smash up my flat. But when he was sober he was very sweet and very apologetic for his behaviour and I knew he was just a messed up and damaged person. ( yes I know if I wasn’t raised by an alcoholic I never would’ve accepted this behaviour).

He has now changed. Yes we have our problems but he rarely drinks now except for special occasions and when he does drink the worst he’ll do is be playing Leonard Cohen. His behaviour isn’t bad in itself but for some reason I just find him drunk triggering.

When I was 8 months pregnant my mum tried to attack me and through a speaker at me (it didn’t hit me but nearly did).

We were living with my mum for a couple of months as her place was being renovated and delayed. She ruined my son’s first birthday. Was very rude to my husband’s family and told them to leave. Cut the giant 1 ballon off his present and released it into the sky because she said it was annoying her.

A month later on my birthday, I was ill, a couple of close friends insisted on showing up so I could have a cake on my birthday. My mum was angry that they brought cake. She said it wouldn’t get finished and would be wasted and then told them to leave.

She showed up to our home recently when I was out, it was just toddler and husband at home and she was saying how much she hates me and what a bitch I am. And that she despises him. She was screaming her head off. He had to lock him and son in a room and wanted to call police.

Another thing I think is important to mention is that she had loads and loads of boyfriends. A lot of them treated her badly.

They, in particular one, would very aggressive towards me. She sided with them. And then gaslight me and accused me of saying all kinds of things to provoke him which were not true. He even confirmed this was not true. She would always side with a boyfriend over one of her kids. Yet she accuses her kids of standing in the way of her love life.

She’s not a bad person. She’s a very troubled person.

But again, due to an overlap in living situation we were semi living with her for months. I did everything I could to be as helpful as possible. Suddenly whenever she had a drink she was very aggressive towards me and accusing me of wronging her when there is literally not a single thing I’ve done. I just don’t get it. When she would start again on her bender we would go to my in-laws.

She’s now moved to her new place so we’re not co—habiting anymore but the occasion I mentioned a little earlier of her showing up whilst I was out happened last week. She had moved out at this point but still had a key.

On New Year’s Eve she starts sending me all these rude messages out of nowhere. Of course she’s drunk, of course I should ignore it. But somehow her sending me that as we entered a new year felt so symbolic.

A couple days later she’s sobered up and I haven’t seen her but she’s been texting me the odd thing ‘oh is that any x where you are I think I left something there’. Talking to me as if nothing happened. That’s what I hate the most. It’s the passive gaslighting. It’s the me having to pretend she hasn’t hurt me.

I don’t have much family but I don’t feel like it’s good for my brain having this kind of relationship.

Should I just cut her out of my life for life?

Thank you if you’ve made it this far

Also, please vote. I feel like if I see the numbers it will be more clear what I need to do.

Thank you so much

OP posts:
strawberrycheesecake1989 · 07/01/2022 20:59

Gosh I’m so sorry for all the typos Im just bloody exhausted. Hope that all made sense.
Just to clarify, all the bad things she has done that I listed have NOT been done sober. Only drunk. X

OP posts:
Rightshoardingsaurus · 07/01/2022 21:02

Absolutely go NC. You really do not want your child to experience this. Now you are a parent yourself, you know what an awful mother she was and still is. Ensure that the locks are changed too! No family is better than such a toxic, gaslighting and abusive person like her!

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Morechocmorechoc · 07/01/2022 21:16

I dont know how you let her live with you. Your kid will end up messed up too if you don't walk away. Personally I would write a letter explaining everything you've dealt with and you will give her one chance to stop drinking and be a good mother and if not youre walking away.

Change your locks!

Mummypigisalwaysright · 07/01/2022 21:34

Go NC immediately! You are stuck in the fear, obligation, guilt cycle, but you owe her nothing. She has been a terrible mother to you. She IS a bad person. Allowing men to abuse and gaslight you is not the action of a good person or mother. Destroying stuff and spitting, swearing and attacking you are not the behaviours of a "troubled" person, they are the behaviours of s psychotic, dysfunctional, horrific person. Protect your son. Break the cycle.

BatshitBanshee · 07/01/2022 21:42

Christ OP, that is rough. I'm sober three years now. Go NC. She has obviously got issues with trauma she has never dealt with that come out when she's had a drink - and I think you existing is enough to set her off. People like that will never come right and there will be nothing you can ever do to make her not be like that. Cut your ties now, for your own sanity.

strawberrycheesecake1989 · 07/01/2022 21:57

Sorry! Just to clarify! I have always, ABSOLUTELY always ensured my son has never been exposed to her mental to behaviour when drunk. She would sometimes be sober for a week and during which time we would be under the same roof. Whenever she started drinking me and my child would immediate get in car and go to in-laws. In-laws was not a permanent option due to space. We looked into renting somewhere to tie us over until my mother’s new place was ready but was constantly being told ‘don’t waste your money I’ll be out of here in one week’. It was absolutely horrendous living with her again and reminded me of my teenage years.

Just to clarify, me and my child were only living under the same roof as her temporarily, and intermittently at that, due to the sale of my place, and her vacating this place (not coinciding - which was meant to be the case originally)

OP posts:
strawberrycheesecake1989 · 07/01/2022 21:58

Oh and just to confirm, Locks have been changed

OP posts:
strawberrycheesecake1989 · 07/01/2022 21:59

@Morechocmorechoc

I dont know how you let her live with you. Your kid will end up messed up too if you don't walk away. Personally I would write a letter explaining everything you've dealt with and you will give her one chance to stop drinking and be a good mother and if not youre walking away.

Change your locks!

Is there even any point in writing a letter?
OP posts:
Morechocmorechoc · 07/01/2022 22:04

It was more for your benefit so you know you've done all you can to reduce your guilt. You absolutely shouldn't feel any but I'm guessing from your posts and the amount you still do for her you are struggling with this decision.

It wont help or change anything. Maybe your going nc will be the driver for her to change as well, you never know.

Wotsitsits · 07/01/2022 22:14

Have you had any form of counselling or therapy OP? Was the therapist skilled in abusive families?

I'm asking because it's very clear to me that you've never really challenged your loyalty to her. You're still enabling her. Allowing her to live with you and believing you have protected your DC by driving them away from DC's own home when her behaviour ramped up. You're still prioritizing her feelings and needs above yours. You're still afraid of her and tipetoeing around her. Your OH absolutely should have called the police when he had to lock himself and DC in a room to protect DC from her abuse! And you should have kicked her out of your home the first instance of abusive behaviour. Her housing crisis is not your problem. She is an adult!

You come first, your DC comes first. She has had her chance and more than her fair share too!

You keep saying she's not a bad person as if that's a reason to continue contact. It's not about her sad story. It's about her continuing bad behaviour. She is behaving unacceptably. You have every right NOT to tolerate that in any way. The only acceptable amount of abuse is NONE.

Read up on out of the FOG - Daughters of narcissistic mothers. Join the stately homes threads.

You absolutely deserve better and owe her nothing. NC. You do not need to explain to anyone why you are NC. Please seek counselling also to work on your boundaries and self esteem. Good luck.

strawberrycheesecake1989 · 07/01/2022 22:33

@Wotsitsits

Have you had any form of counselling or therapy OP? Was the therapist skilled in abusive families?

I'm asking because it's very clear to me that you've never really challenged your loyalty to her. You're still enabling her. Allowing her to live with you and believing you have protected your DC by driving them away from DC's own home when her behaviour ramped up. You're still prioritizing her feelings and needs above yours. You're still afraid of her and tipetoeing around her. Your OH absolutely should have called the police when he had to lock himself and DC in a room to protect DC from her abuse! And you should have kicked her out of your home the first instance of abusive behaviour. Her housing crisis is not your problem. She is an adult!

You come first, your DC comes first. She has had her chance and more than her fair share too!

You keep saying she's not a bad person as if that's a reason to continue contact. It's not about her sad story. It's about her continuing bad behaviour. She is behaving unacceptably. You have every right NOT to tolerate that in any way. The only acceptable amount of abuse is NONE.

Read up on out of the FOG - Daughters of narcissistic mothers. Join the stately homes threads.

You absolutely deserve better and owe her nothing. NC. You do not need to explain to anyone why you are NC. Please seek counselling also to work on your boundaries and self esteem. Good luck.

Yes along time ago in my teens. Then again, a few years ago. I’m not sure if they specialised in abuse.

I’m not sure my OP was very clear but I did not allow her to live with me. She was living in a family owned property whilst her home was being renovated. The sale of mine and DH’s he was meant to coincide with her vacating the family owned home which we were there going to move into and live in alone. However, her place which was being renovated was delayed by about 6 months due to problems with supplies and builders which is what resulted in us being under the same roof and literally living in the pits of hell

Thank you for all the other points you’ve made. You’re not the first to point towards her being a narcissist. Others have mentioned this took.

Thank you thank you

I guess I just feel sad that my son won’t have much of an extended family. I just wanted his life to be picture perfect big family gatherings and all that. I guess that was just never in the cards for me as I can’t control everything

OP posts:
LibrariesGiveUsPower · 07/01/2022 22:46

Cut her off, she’s abusive and dangerous to your son and yourself. No explanation, just cut her off and move on with your life.

ChampagneLassie · 07/01/2022 22:50

Cut her out of your life. And if youve not already consider getting counselling to help you process all of this. Also recommend Phillipa Perry's book the book you'll wish your parents had read. Don't underestimate the impact on you, your husband and son of this behaviour. Also massive watch on your DH not falling into drinking again if that's his default.

Natty13 · 07/01/2022 23:55

Honey, you are a mother now. You cannot allow your son to be raised around an alcoholic. This kind of stuff is generational, even if you don't drink the damage done to children repeats itself.

Nobody should have kids unless they are willing to protect them against any kind of harm. Raising children to have close relationships with volatile alcoholics is harmful. It is so, so painful to have to cut off a parent but surely the alternative of your son growing up locked in a room while she rampages is worse? I'm sorry you didn't get the mum you deserved and I'm sorry she won't get help. In my experience even of she managed to stop drinking a lot of the toxic and abusive behaviour remains. There's a group called Adult Children of Alcoholics who have a lot of helpful resources and can be a massive support.

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