To think is proof enough that women should get a say in who cares for them?

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amp.theguardian.com/society/2022/jan/04/women-more-likely-die-operation-male-surgeon-study

I've always preferred women doctors and feel in general I get much better care. Women who insist on female led care often take quite a lot of flack and it appears their concerns are not unfounded!

It interesting that they seem to want to address this by getting more women into surgery rather than dealing with the male surgeons who are failing their patients.

I am absolutely amazed by this. It’s appalling

I thought this was fascinating and decided the diagnostic process was probably a lot to to do with it. Men deciding women weren’t much worth listening to whereas women taking greater care with patients of both sexed to establish appropriate treatment.

It's an interesting study, but I note it took place in Ontario. Perhaps it should be repeated in other countries to eliminate any "local" differences.

I also see that in England, "women make up 41% of early stage surgeons but only 30% of higher trainees and 14% of consultants", so perhaps the riskier operations more likely to have a poor outcome will mainly be carried out by consultants (men). Any study would have to be careful to eliminate this potential bias.

Personally, I wouldn't care about the surgeon's sex, gender, sexuality, age, nationality, or race, but I would care about the surgeon's record for that particular type of operation and would hope that the data was available.

Same article says that male patients can expect similar outcomes regardless of the sex of their surgeon.

So overall does that mean …women are better surgeons?

We thought that too about riskier procedures but there wasn’t a higher mortality rate for male patients!

Is all the data from Ontario patients or just one of the co-authors? It’s pretty shocking.

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Same article says that male patients can expect similar outcomes regardless of the sex of their surgeon.

So overall does that mean …women are better surgeons?

Pretty sure it means make surgeons do a worse job on female patients but just like female surgeons do a good job on male patients. Presumably factors are haven’t gathered sufficient data as women’s description of their problem isn’t worth listening to, not as aware of sex differences in issue presentation and possibly physically during the surgery, hopefully not just subconsciously care less about doing a good job so are less careful.

This is astonishing and awful.

I know everyone here absolutely hates the US medical system, but you do get to choose your doctors (and read reviews from other patients in advance) and I've always been able to choose women where I wanted/needed to.

Dental surgeon who pulled my wisdom teeth was a man, but my obstetrician was a woman. I chose them both.