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Rural life and Issues with my neighbour

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Lostgourd · 05/01/2022 17:21

Good afternoon all,

I would really appreciate your opinions on a situation I have got myself into please?

Last year I moved to a very rural area, I live on a single track country lane. Nearest neighbours 1/2 mile each way. I moved so far away as a very violent ex still talks about us getting back together. I've had to change my career ,name and cut off my friends for concerns about my safety.

I met the neighbour a single chap , he has separated from his ex partner. She apparently moved out and he went back to an empty house. They have 3 children. It is a very lonely isolated place and despite my best attempts there is no community here. Well, lets say i'm judged at being English. This man was the only person whom spoke to me. This chap started bringing his children down to my house, I loved having them here. But, then he entered my property through a private gate , let the children run through my house, whilst I was actually in the garden. I turned around and he was watching me arse waving in the air whilst gardening, I had no idea how long he had been watching me.

Then I started to notice my front garden, it is fenced in , had been walked through overnight about 3 times, So I put a padlock on the gate. I also had a bra disappear off my washing line.

This chap started appearing every time I left my property. As I say its rural and I can been seen from his farm. He started popping down unannounced , usually bring the children . Sadly, the children look like something from Oliver Twist. I did buy the children some new clothes. He told me his ex wanted her new boyfriend to adopt the children . Then began months of him popping in all hours of the day and night and sitting at the table for hours, wanting emotion support. I would feed him as I always cook too much and was happy to do this. He kept using the children as bait. The children never want to leave when they come here.

Anyway, I told him about these footprints in the garden, he told me it would be badgers. I told him I was having blinds fitted , he asked what on that window there? The window he can see from his Farm. I have 14 windows in the house. He then had a detailed conversation about the strength of binoculars. A bit of a cat out the bag moment!

Another time he came down he was crying because he wanted to provide his children with more than cheap Argos tablets and he wanted them to have a TV in their bedrooms. I told him kids are 4x2 and 7. They don't need TVs and the tablets are good enough. I was growing ever weary of his constant drop ins. I have MS and am really struggling with life. He then asked me to provide a character reference due to custody battle. I was happy to report what I had witnessed. But, then he came down and produced another 12 references. He had loads of support .I told him to F off and leave me alone, he was draining the life out of me. I apologised later. I was away in a City and planning the children Christmas presents, I sent him several photos of Lego sets..42,45 and 89 pound. He said get the 89 pound one, bearing in mind that would mean 89 pounds each for 3 children.

He has promised to do lots of very simple jobs for me, dig a tree in, fix a fence post, very simple little jobs, none have been actioned. Once whilst out, he asked me to buy him work trousers, I foolishly did. He seemed surprised when I told him the cost of them.

I am a very kindly soul but I feel terribly awkward now as its a single track road. On Christmas Eve he bought down a huge bouquet of flowers.(left on doorstep) He told children would be down themselves to bring me a present, in other words collect their 90 pound each of presents. I hate to spite the children, I've fed them, played with them and cared for them for hours. He suggested he wants more contact with the children, but would require my help to babysit, collect and take them to school etc.

I actually want to take these presents back and get a refund. Or is that just pure spite?

My own children where kidnapped many years ago, by the man I had to go to the extremes to escape yet again. So , I only wanted to help these children out . I have no sexual or romantic interest in this neighbour. He is 6 years younger and acts like a very young man. The chap seemed utterly lost and broken. I just wanted to help him out and be a big sister. I just feel uncomfortable now, as I will pass him and he drives past my house and back garden several times a day. I have also lent /gave him 2800 and bought him and his son a bike. In fairness I took a former employer to a tribunal , so it was tainted money .

The money and acts of kindness do not bother me. I am away from the house now and I dread heading back and bumping into him. Before I left I asked him to just ignore me now, we have nothing to say. A week later he sees me heading to the bin, pulls the car over and chats like we are best of friends.

I am rather dented by life, worked several jobs and am lucky I do not struggle money wise. But, I realise this man is out for everything he can get FOC. Why bother cooking when he has his children, when I cook for free.

I hope some of you wise people can give me your objective points of view, please do not be too harsh...walk a day in my shoes and all that. I'm totally lost and have no decent friends now. I'm going to put the house on the market and leave.

Many thanks for reading and good health and happiness to you all.

OP posts:
DobbyTheHouseElk · 05/01/2022 18:45

I don’t know the book or film. Sorry. I got the one about Scrooge, but I don’t get this one!

Hairyfriend · 05/01/2022 18:46

I agree, you have given out mixed messages- free babysitting, cooking meals, giving money, even taking photos of lego and sending them to him!!!

Don't give over the lego until he pays you, otherwise, just get a refund. He can order them online himself! Dont let him or the children in when they come around. Dont mind his children or cook for them! Is the £3000 a loan, or you freely gave it to him with no plans to pay back?

You need therapy to feel confident to say no in the future. The whole missing bra and blinds etc is just creepy! Get cameras, learn your boundaries and don't give out such mixed messages.

user1493494961 · 05/01/2022 18:58

Indeed, very strange.

Bibbetybobbity · 05/01/2022 19:03

Hmm, what a bizarre tale….

Cyw2018 · 05/01/2022 19:22

You need some therapy otherwise you will just sell up and move yourself into another similar situation where you allow yourself to be used and abused by you not establishing normal boundaries within relationships, be it neighbourly, friendships or romantic.

ParkingDiagram · 05/01/2022 19:27

The farmer’s in his den
The farmer’s in his den
EIEIO
The farmer wants a wife
The farmer wants a wife

2bazookas · 05/01/2022 19:30

The money and acts of kindness do not bother me.

They very clearly do. since you have made some unpleasant and bitter remarks about your "generosity" ( the childrens presents, the expensive work trousers, the meals you feed him. the money you lent) They turn into "this man is out for everything he can get FOC. Why bother cooking when he has his children, when I cook for free."
"I actually want to take these presents back and get a refund".

      You have  far overstepped the normal boundaries of rural "neighbourliness" ( loans, expensive gifts, meals,  endless hosting him and the kids, sympathetic listening, buying his trousers !!!!!) ,. a level of encouragement resulting in the   high dependence  you now resent.  You gave  a vulnerable needy  little  family completely the wrong message about you,   and are  now blaming him because he accepted it.

    Your choices, decisions and actions have consequences. You chose a very isolated rural area then complain at the

lack of community. You chose a house on that single track access and now complain about the inevitable fact you and neighbour pass each others house all the time. You shower them with gifts then panic because he leaves one for you on the step.

    You complain that even though you distanced yourself, he continues to give you the time of day as you pass by.  Well, of course he does.   In rural Scotland it is basic manners <strong> always</strong> to acknowledge  passing  neighbours /local residents.

If you sell up and leave, you won't escape from your own nature. You'll   still be the same person  having the same issues in a different place.   Struggling  socially. Getting into  the wrong relationship. 

No point keep running. Better to stick where you are and spend some time sorting out your relationship with yourself.

Grenlei · 05/01/2022 19:33

@TenPenceMix

Are you Liz Jones?
Ah yes, that's who this reminds me of! Thank you. Read the entire OP trying to identify what was familiar about it.
Sparklesocks · 05/01/2022 19:40

You need you stop giving him money, cooking for him and buying gifts for his kids. Remove yourself and push back as soon as you can or he’ll continue to take the piss out of you.

Yuingj · 05/01/2022 19:42

Wow what a story. So you just casually threw in there that your children have been kidnapped? Gosh what a life in a single track lane. Can you post a pic. I bet it looks amazing

foxlover47 · 05/01/2022 20:03

I don't think I would feel very safe living quite so rural by myself ... I would def buy a dog , I would feel safer with my two because they bark at every single noise outside 🙈.
I have moved to get away from a ex I understand that but honestly I think it's easier to hide in a busier place.
I am sure your intentions were completely pure and coming from a good place , some people are just born takers and don't know when to stop taking the pee.
I wouldn't take the kids Lego back , they haven't done anything wrong and sound like their life is quite tough at the moment too.
I would say to the man that badgers truly don't have human footprints and you're feeling in a really rubbish place yourself so need to just focus on repairing yourself but will always say hi/bye etc.
Don't offer to be there , you're not there for that , just keep it polite so you don't feel awkward until you sell up.
He's crossed too many boundaries and been super over familiar , sometimes it's hard to know how to tell someone to back off nicely I get that but you tell him you need to focus on you x good luck and if he gets creepy call the police every time

OnaBegonia · 05/01/2022 20:14

Nobody can be this naive, surely 🙄

Cosmos123 · 05/01/2022 20:56

I think it would be a good idea to move and like other posters have said get therapy about boundaries.

In the meantime a couple of dogs too.

Sounds bit freaky to me.

TheChip · 05/01/2022 21:05

How does all that happen in the space of a year?

Loocheeyar · 05/01/2022 21:06

Wtf ?

Pinetreecone · 05/01/2022 21:18

@Loocheeyar

Wtf ?
That’s what I was thinking.

OP this isn’t normal behaviour.

OwMyToe · 05/01/2022 21:19

Hm... And he has twins, you say!

The options would be to move or stop sending mixed signals and put measures into place to protect your privacy. Making a clean break by moving seems easier, since you haven't been there long and apparently have no problems with money.

stupiduser · 05/01/2022 21:22

Wow this sounds like a plot line in a book...

Onesnowynight · 05/01/2022 21:30

Wow……just wow……..

(I’m sure this reminds me of something…)

Crowdfundingforcake · 05/01/2022 21:30

As they say in my neck of the woods, 'aye, right.'

Bluntness100 · 05/01/2022 21:38

I don’t really understand your behaviour to be honest. It’s nothing short of encouraging, you even said you loved having them there, you’ve cooked for them, given them money, bought them gifts, fed them. What’s he done wrong are you thinking he’s spying on you and stealing your underwear or that he fancies you? It’s hard to fathom.

I mean this gently, but are you sure you’re quite well?

Sarahlou63 · 05/01/2022 21:43

I'm going to put the house on the market and leave.

Good strategy. Don't leave a forwarding address.

TeachesOfPeaches · 05/01/2022 21:55

Have you ever considered Maui OP?

Herani · 05/01/2022 22:08

You do sound very kind OP, but if this is how you really feel about him and his DCs, then you need to stop being quite so kind and start putting boundaries in place.
In your situation, I wouldn't be rude to him. He might be a bit creepy, or he might just be interested and not going about it in a nuanced way. I don't think you can jump to the conclusion he's snooping on you without solid proof.
You've got yourself into a tricky situation and to him it probably will look as though you are blowing 'hot and cold'. I hope you have made it clear to him that you don't want a closer/romantic relationship. Ask him to call before he comes over with the kids and maybe set a day when its okay for him to come over.
You living situation doesn't sound ideal - very isolated and therefore very intense. But if you like living there, build a higher fence and put up blinds. As others have said, get a big dog.
But you've been kind to a fault and some men are going to read this as 'interested'.

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 05/01/2022 22:14

@Hairyfriend

I agree, you have given out mixed messages- free babysitting, cooking meals, giving money, even taking photos of lego and sending them to him!!!

Don't give over the lego until he pays you, otherwise, just get a refund. He can order them online himself! Dont let him or the children in when they come around. Dont mind his children or cook for them! Is the £3000 a loan, or you freely gave it to him with no plans to pay back?

You need therapy to feel confident to say no in the future. The whole missing bra and blinds etc is just creepy! Get cameras, learn your boundaries and don't give out such mixed messages.

This

Plus, given your previous domestic abuse situation, I'd be moving into a town /city - it's easier to be anonymous there.

Apart.from being a user, he has red flags agogo... Don't trust him or your safety with him.

Decide whether you want to try and get the loan back..
Or just take the 300£ of Lego bakc and put the loan down to experience... Leave and be happy without a backward glance to this bloke...

I would have no compunction in telling a few lies about your future plans to this man.... Don't let him know ANY future address.

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