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what would you do RE housing?

51 replies

Azpil · 29/12/2021 20:49

I’d just like to preface this by saying I absolutely do not want to offend anyone as I’m talking about money and lifestyle. I am going to not include figures as I don’t want to come across the wrong way.

So, I am 27, DH 33.
We live in SE, commuter town to London where I work. DH owns a business and works in education - his job is very stable. My profession itself is stable and high demand, my job seems fine at the moment but is of course vulnerable like a lot of private sector corps.

Current situation:
Good size 3 bed semi, 2 mins walk from a street of independent shops / cafes - a place we love to spend time. Desirable area. No parking, can be stressful as you can’t always park on your own road but usually can find a space within 1 min or so walk.

We overpay mortgage and would be mortgage free by 40ish (me). It’s big enough I think for children (we are ttc next year) but would feel a bit small with 2 kids. Smallish garden but good for us as low maintenance.

We go on two extravagant holidays a year (Maldives, Caribbean) and 4 other holidays (skiing / city breaks) and can eat out every week if we like. Money isn’t an issue per se, although we aren’t rich!

Potential house:
Larger 4 bed detached with bigger garden and parking. Double the price we paid for our current house. Due to size, is slightly further from the little high street (10 min walk) but less busy. Same schools catchment.

We could afford most big % changes on the mortgage however, it would mean only 1 holiday a year with potential little city breaks. We’d have to eat out less / be more careful with money. We’d have to budget.

WWYD? I keep thinking we are young so get the house whilst we can. But I don’t know if it’s dumb?

FWIW, I’d never give up my job even with children. However, I can’t predict illness etc but that is a risk you always take. We have all the necessary insurances through our work though.

OP posts:
Azpil · 29/12/2021 22:26

So, the three bed is obviously big enough for some families as we are the only non-kid couple on the street. However, there’d be no guest room. There’s only one family bathroom. One downstairs utility with loo. There isn’t a big garden to spend days in. The two rooms can fit double beds but they’re not massive and I work from home so would then have to use the dining room for space to work!

Childcare will be something we need to consider and would cost us a good amount which could screw us.

For numbers for those asking:

  • £10k net a month income
  • current mortgage + overpayment £2k
  • other house mortgage minimum is £2.3k on a fixed term available but could rise easily to £5k if climate got bad!
  • current house is £600k, houses we are looking at are £900-1m
OP posts:
Azpil · 29/12/2021 22:26

Thanks @Jessie75! We would probably look to move in a year anyway so that works!

OP posts:
ayegazumba · 29/12/2021 22:27

Get the house. It sounds like you're in a great financial position (although I know anything can happen) and at only 27 being able to afford what you can currently is pretty rare so I'd keep climbing the property ladder whilst you comfortably can. The other thing to bare in mind is your salary is likely to increase. At 37 mine's steadily climbed the past 10 years and so eventually you'll be able to afford more of the luxuries again ( if it doesn't all go on kids )

Bumblebee413 · 29/12/2021 22:29

I never thought I would but honestly my DS was so amazing I couldn't imagine missing out on his childhood by working through it!

'Knobby' wasn't quite the right word for that. Reading it felt like I'd been knifed in the gut.

Get the bigger house op.

Hercisback · 29/12/2021 22:31

£10k a month, do what you like!

No one can make this decision for you. With £10k a month income I'd expect more than 3 bedrooms. As your kids grown up they'll probably prefer more space.

SpellBounds · 29/12/2021 22:31

Move definitely YANBU and will still be mortgage free relatively young

YABU for relying on workplace benefits w.g critical illness cover. You need these separate to work to avoid any issues if you change employment.

Jessie75 · 29/12/2021 22:31

Lol it’s entirely possible to enjoy a child’s childhood and enjoy one’s career at the same time the most underrated resource on the planet is the OFSTED registered nanny especially if you have two or more children. Retrospectively I wish I’d bought a house that could accommodate an au pair a lot earlier my life would’ve been very different and a lot more comfortable in my dotage

SofiaMichElf · 29/12/2021 22:32

@JustWonderingIfYou

I never thought I would but honestly my DS was so amazing I couldn't imagine missing out on his childhood by working through it! Sounds knobby I know...

Christ on a bike.

Embracelife · 29/12/2021 22:39

On those numbers just get the big house

Pinkandpink · 29/12/2021 22:45

Oh dear god! What a dilemma. Only on mn. How the other half live.

sst1234 · 29/12/2021 22:46

Go for it OP, the numbers make sense.

sst1234 · 29/12/2021 22:46

@Pinkandpink

Oh dear god! What a dilemma. Only on mn. How the other half live.
OP was right, not long before someone was going to make a shitty comment.
Hankunamatata · 29/12/2021 23:05

Also think about that one or both of you may want to go PT or even SAH once kids arrive.

lots33 · 29/12/2021 23:22

Do what works for you , there is no right answer.
We opted to buy a cheaper terrace house with no parking, meaning we could both reduce our hours and use minimal childcare whilst our kids were young.
We are now in our 40s and have paid off the mortgage.
The lack of parking was worth it for us.
Plus a smaller house means less cleaning!

LampLighter414 · 29/12/2021 23:46

I feel I recognise you. Didn't you ask about all of this earlier in the year? It seems like very little has changed in your scenario from previous thread...

sst1234 · 30/12/2021 00:45

@Jessie75

Definitely get the bigger house but I would wait until the summer next year because prices are insane at the moment and it’s unsustainable I think if you buy right now you gonna buy at the top of the market
What’s going to change next summer? Only that interest rates will be higher and you will pay more for your mortgage. Timing the market is never a good idea. Very very very few people ever win by waiting.
Jessie75 · 30/12/2021 08:02

Interest rates go up then people’s affordability goes down. I’d rather pay 5% of 100,000 than 2.5% of 200,000

PicaK · 30/12/2021 08:18

You may not be able to have kids. You could get the big house and then rattle around in it, unable to afford holidays etc.
I'd stay put. Have the first child where you are. There'll always be another house.

User112 · 30/12/2021 08:34

Childcare is expensive. Do you have parents/inlaws nearby to help with kids?

If not, having small kids and a full time job can be utterly exhausting.

If you can afford mortgage with one salary, go for it.

Bluntness100 · 30/12/2021 08:36

Get the house op, now when you’re young, you won’t regret it,

RussianSpy101 · 30/12/2021 08:43

Is there a compromise whereby you could have a house with parking but still have holidays and a nice lifestyle?

It depends what your priorities are. We are just moving from being mortgage free but we’ve only borrowed 20% of what we were “allowed” to borrow as maintaining our lifestyle is more important to us than having a huge mortgage.

RussianSpy101 · 30/12/2021 08:45

@Pinkandpink choosing between holidays or a house with a driveway isn’t “how the other half live” ?
The OP came on to ask for genuine advice. Why comment if you don’t have anything constructive to say.

Youmeanyouvelostyourkey · 30/12/2021 17:27

I would also go for the larger house with a drive. Having just been WFH for the last 2 years, the luxury of having office space rather than using the dining table was so valuable. I can't see prices going down so move whilst you can

Viviennemary · 30/12/2021 17:33

I would get the big house and forget about kids. They will cost you a fortune. And you can still go on your exotic holidays.

Totalwasteofpaper · 30/12/2021 17:53

@Azpil

So, the three bed is obviously big enough for some families as we are the only non-kid couple on the street. However, there’d be no guest room. There’s only one family bathroom. One downstairs utility with loo. There isn’t a big garden to spend days in. The two rooms can fit double beds but they’re not massive and I work from home so would then have to use the dining room for space to work!

Childcare will be something we need to consider and would cost us a good amount which could screw us.

For numbers for those asking:

  • £10k net a month income
  • current mortgage + overpayment £2k
  • other house mortgage minimum is £2.3k on a fixed term available but could rise easily to £5k if climate got bad!
  • current house is £600k, houses we are looking at are £900-1m
In almost identical circumstances /costs we moved from a 450k 100sq ft 2 bed to a 2250sq ft 5 bed (just us two no kids)

I cannot tell you how much we have NO REGRETS.

It's amazing to have the space and to know you won't need to move. The garden is incredible and while our outgoings will be chunky ( mortgage is about 2.5k pm and base outgoings are over 6k once nursery is thrown in) it's affordable long term

I think we would have found it harder to move up the ladder if we held out longer, as now childcare and child related costs fit round housing costs rather than vice versa....
because honestly how long is a piece of string when it comes to spending ££££ on your PFB (I'd be buying half of boden and signing her up to every class going if I had more disposable income as it is I will be more selective)

Cannot stress enough how much it is totally worth it.

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