To push the ski instructor down the hill????

[DorotheaDiamond]

I know I need to angle my knees into the bloody hill…I’m trying to angle my knees into the bloody hill…it’s not happening.

Repeatedly telling me to do it is not helping my skiing at all! I completely understand what you are trying to say - my body just won’t do it.

If you are away in Europe. you are bu as I want to go sking.

Just don't go on the icy black runs then? It's meant to be fun, just give yourself a break and enjoy the stuff you can do.

@BoredZelda she said she can usually just not on icy black runs. Obviously skiing is harder on icy black runs, lots of us freeze and forget our technique on runs like this. What a rude comment, you sound like a teenage girl trying to put her down with bitchy comments.

Thank you @3WildOnes!!! I’m not sure anyone would call carved turns with stops after each on an icy black the most basic of beginner moves…maybe Zelda learned somewhere that they are but for the rest of us they are things that the highest level groups are working on!

lots of us freeze and forget our technique on runs like this.

If you are prone to freezing and "forgetting" a skill, then you have no business skiing on a black run.

What a rude comment, you sound like a teenage girl trying to put her down with bitchy comments.

Because this is a mature, well
thought out response?

I’m not sure anyone would call carved turns with stops after each on an icy black the most basic of beginner moves…

It's the ultimate novice mistake of people over estimating their skill. And given you were unclear what the instructor was trying to teach you, and you were unable to follow the command, it's obvious you took on more than you were capable of.

If I took a class out on an icy black, I'd be very surprised (and annoyed) if I was having to teach them things they should know already if they joined that level of class.

But sure, blame the instructor for your over confidence and lack of skill.

I've skied for 30 odd years and never even attempted a black run, seems too much like hard work and I like all my bones in their correct configuration. I'm pining for Val d'Isere as I'm normally there for Christmas 😔

The way I was taught to get into the right position was to reach down the hill as far as possible with the downhill ski pole. Your body then automatically angles the knees into the hill as a counterbalance. Works really well. Probably doesn't look very cool.

@boredzelda feel sorry for your pupils. Instructor had seen me ski for 3 days so was clearly perfectly happy with my ability…the fact I then skied it too to bottom three times without stopping or falling today suggests I wasn’t actually overestimating my ability.

The fact the instructor couldn’t help me deal with my problem yesterday is the issue…a decent instructor would have been able to help me solve the problem rather than simply repeating the same instructions that clearly weren’t working. And the only way to learn how to deal with icy blacks is to be taught correctly…

@BoredZelda

lots of us freeze and forget our technique on runs like this.

If you are prone to freezing and "forgetting" a skill, then you have no business skiing on a black run.

What a rude comment, you sound like a teenage girl trying to put her down with bitchy comments.

Because this is a mature, well
thought out response?

I’m not sure anyone would call carved turns with stops after each on an icy black the most basic of beginner moves…

It's the ultimate novice mistake of people over estimating their skill. And given you were unclear what the instructor was trying to teach you, and you were unable to follow the command, it's obvious you took on more than you were capable of.

If I took a class out on an icy black, I'd be very surprised (and annoyed) if I was having to teach them things they should know already if they joined that level of class.

But sure, blame the instructor for your over confidence and lack of skill.

I bet your classes are a joy @BoredZelda just enough arrogance to support a nice chip on your shoulder

@BoredZelda every time I have gone skiing I have been assessed at the beginning of the week and they have then decided which class I belong in, so the instructor would be at fault for allowing her into the class if it was indeed above her.

Ski instructors are getting a bit of a bad press on here.

I first learned to ski at 45 and continued until I was 72.

For many of those years I joined ski school, fun, sociable and improved my technique.

I always assumed the instructors knew what their group was capable of and were very familiar with every inch of the mountain. Consequently I had complete confidence and did whatever I was asked to do. DH remembers me happily going down a black run without poles. When out skiing with DH, however, I was always suspicious about where he was taking me, lost confidence and had plenty of torrid moments involving swearing and shouting at him.

We are supposed to be going on the family ski trip in February; fingers crossed for that. Though my ancient legs don't let me ski, the Club Med hotel we are going to is a fabulous place to spend a week, and the rest of them should have a great time.

No one likes ice, but an instructor once told me 'you are good on ice" so I believed him and coped happily thereafter.

Instructors shouting CLOSE YOUR SKIIIIIII will haunt me until my dying day

The only time I’ve been down black runs was by accident, when I forgot to leave the lift in time or you have to go on black to get to red.

Ignore the instructor if he’s making you worse. I had a terrible one who gave all the group lessons in German and kept forgetting to translate. I remember going downhill faster and faster while he shouted at me to zig zag (like you can turn when you’re panicking and other out of control people are weaving all over!) Other times he’d shout ‘beeeg snowplough’ at me when my heels were already so far apart I was about to go face forward onto the ice!

@DorotheaDiamond

Try this - but possibly too late - lower the downhill arm... I struggle to angle to the hill, just running through an exercise on YouTube (in my slippers) and the lower the downhill arm made me bend my knees towards the hill & feel the pinch in the waist.