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Airbnb neighbours who don't seem to matter

104 replies

Mudday · 23/12/2021 01:26

I live in the centre of a triple divided cottage with two toddlers who are randomly noisy, and surprisingly 🧐sometimes (not regularly) noisy very late at night. I've lived in this part of the cottage for years with no problems from neighbours, before a single (rich bachelor) bought the other side of the house and knew that there was a young family (us) next door. He's set up an Airbnb business in his new home nextdoor and is giving us hell for being a young family, as the random, impossible to control family living noise is 'affecting his business'. I respect any noise issues and understand that we all need to respect our neighbours; however, our other neighbour has never had a problem, but this new one treats us like errant staff. AIBU for being furious that I have to tiptoe around my own home so my neighbour gets a good effing Airbnb review????

OP posts:
Lalliella · 23/12/2021 08:47

You buy a house next to a family, you expect family noise. He can do one. Tell him to leave you alone or you’re reporting him to AirBnb. He’s a twat anyway to deprive a potential family of having that house as a home, he’s contributing to house price inflation and homelessness.

Tiramesu · 23/12/2021 08:56

Get a trampoline

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 23/12/2021 08:59

@Mudday

I live in the centre of a triple divided cottage with two toddlers who are randomly noisy, and surprisingly 🧐sometimes (not regularly) noisy very late at night. I've lived in this part of the cottage for years with no problems from neighbours, before a single (rich bachelor) bought the other side of the house and knew that there was a young family (us) next door. He's set up an Airbnb business in his new home nextdoor and is giving us hell for being a young family, as the random, impossible to control family living noise is 'affecting his business'. I respect any noise issues and understand that we all need to respect our neighbours; however, our other neighbour has never had a problem, but this new one treats us like errant staff. AIBU for being furious that I have to tiptoe around my own home so my neighbour gets a good effing Airbnb review????
Do not change YOUR behaviour.... How dare he complain to you!!

You should be the recipient of an apology...

Airbnbs set up on otherwise residential areas at very close quarters are a scourge...

I can see 20 feet away our neighbouring Airbnb.... We're in a packed town centre... 1700s/1800s cottages... Our neighbours hace a large knocked through cottage... That the last 18 months they've been Airbnbs.

We're dowb a picturesque alleyway... The only outside space is a patch big enough for a table.... Provably 20 feet from my bed....

It seems to be a place where several couples /families meet (dont think its swinging partiesGrin).

So people will often arrive at midnight onwards from the four corners... And have loud greetings and prosecco on the front patio...

Fuck it echoes all around about the 4 houses who directly face it....

It's a fucking menace.

The owner shrugged theur shoulders... And said... "But its my business."

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 23/12/2021 09:01

Sorry I hijacked your thread...

But if he's being too nasty I'd really encourage my toddlers to run around....

What's he going to do???

Larryyourwaiter · 23/12/2021 09:06

I’d shrug and report him for running a airb&b for more than 60 nights.

MabelsApron · 23/12/2021 09:07

Ordinarily I'd be sympathetic with the neighbour (been living next to a large, very noisy family for years...) AND I'd be peeved as anything if I stayed in an Air BNB and had to deal with two noisy toddlers - but that's on him for situating hospitality there, and I'd be reviewing him accordingly.

It's different if you're all neighbours and you need to muddle along together. You're not under an obligation to ensure he doesn't get complaints, and this situation really just highlights that Air BNB is not a good thing.

Unescorted · 23/12/2021 09:18

Our elderly neighbour sold to someone running an Air BnB.... Without planning. So we are keeping a total of days it is rented out. As soon as it is problematic I will let the LPA know. For now they are okay.

As a previous poster pointed out Air BnB guts communities creating a housing market driven by rental income not local wages. It forces people out of areas they grew up in, away from elderly parents and reduces the economic viability of villages.

Chasingaftermidnight · 23/12/2021 09:19

Shouldn’t have set up a ‘business’ in a residential house used by families then should he? I use the term ‘business’ loosely.

SafeMove · 23/12/2021 09:29

@Chasingaftermidnight I hare the way people use the word 'business' for things like this too. 'Building my business' knocks me sick!

OP - YANBU tell him to get to fuck.

SafeMove · 23/12/2021 09:29

*hate

RobinPenguins · 23/12/2021 09:39

@BlackberrySky

Tell him to shove it. As AirBnB continues to encroach on communities, it is not up to long term residents and community contributors to change normal family behaviour. He is the one preventing another family from living there, and instead forcing you to endure a stream of visitors who may or may not be nice people, and who contribute nothing to your local community. Not everything is about business and making money, and it is not your responsibility to help him make money out of your community. As long as you are not being anti social, crack on with normal family life.
All of this. I don’t use Air B n B for the reasons set out. I’m normally the first to be sensitive to noise, but he can piss off.
IncompleteSenten · 23/12/2021 09:41

His reviews are not your problem.
Get on with your life.

Tell him that you have no intention of creeping around your house.

Either that or say yeah, sure. £500 a week. In advance.

billy1966 · 23/12/2021 09:48

Start reporting him for harassment to 101 and anywhere else.

Music and noisy children when the house is occupied and count the days he uses it.

Do not accept his bullshit.

Flowers
Movinghouseatlast · 23/12/2021 09:56

Just for the 'he's breaking the law' brigade- as long as the property is classified as C3 Dwelling House he can use it as a furnished holiday let. The only time you need planning permission is if the property is very large and is being used by lots of unrelated people or if it was being rented as separate rooms ( like a traditional b and b) Only in London (currently) is Air BnB limited to 60 days.

I have been the hidalgo cottage owner on the other side and this guy is being unreasonable. He should ( as Ifid) pay for soundproofing. A lot of these conversions were done very badly and a stud wall with rock wool is very effective.

Movinghouseatlast · 23/12/2021 09:57

Holiday cottage that should read!

CheddarGorgeous · 23/12/2021 09:58

@Tiramesu

Get a trampoline

And a drum kit.

alloalloallo · 23/12/2021 10:01

Tell him to sod off.

Seems monumentally stupid to buy a property in the middle of families and then complain about normal family noise.

We had a neighbour like this - he complained about noise constantly. We weren’t exceptionally noisy - just normal, every day noise - lawn mowers, kids laughing in the garden, the hoover, etc.

He wasn’t exactly quiet himself - DIY noise, he used to tinker with motorbikes in his back garden, loud music occasionally. Dipshit didn’t seem to realise if he could hear our hoover, we could hear his drill.

One day we went to Thorpe Park for the day and he came round shouting and swearing that our dog had been barking all day. The same dog that we had taken to my Mum’s the evening before because we were going to be out for hours and hours.

Told him to fuck off and that I would report him for harassment if he every came round again.

Havanananana · 23/12/2021 10:01

Is he actually allowed to rent his part of the property as an AirBnB?

  • Is there any covenant on the property that prevents this (and do you, and the other "third" of the property have any say in this?)
  • Are there any local council or planning restrictions - particularly ones that require neighbours to have been consulted?
  • Is a business or letting license/registration required from the local authority and does this include rules about a permitted number of days - as well as requirements for smoke alarms, fire escapes, wiring certificates, car parking spaces etc?
  • What about building insurance - is the building suitably insured through your/his insurance for commercial, short term rentals?
CentrifugalBumblePuppy · 23/12/2021 10:02

I’m currently next to a wall where the kids next door are playing some sort of drumming concerto with goodness knows what against the wall. It’s irritating (well, her yelling at the kids at full whack is the irritating part) but hey, she has 5 young kids, there will be noise.

He is, quite simply, an arse.

vastgrandupgrade · 23/12/2021 10:03

They need to start licensing and severely limiting Air B&B in residential areas.

FrownedUpon · 23/12/2021 10:06

It would spoil a holiday though being next to noisy toddlers! I imagine he’ll keep complaining, but as long as you’re being as quiet as you can, not much you can do.

time2tork · 23/12/2021 10:08

As an owner of multiple Air b&bs I would never buy a terraced house with families next door to air b&b.

I like my guests to have space and make as much noise without interrupting neighbours.

Don't stop living your life.

His air b&b reviews are his problem, if he wants to make a bit of pocket money from Air b&b, problem free, then he should buy a detached house with no neighbours 🙄

Senmumm2021 · 23/12/2021 10:11

I wouldn't encourage the DC to be quiet, it is their home. He's a twit.

CheesyWeez · 23/12/2021 10:11

Reply that his business is affecting your enjoyment of your family home.

How dare he grumble about you!

mumda · 23/12/2021 10:12

A friend of mine lives next door to an AirBnB. He's lived there for over 30 years. Apparently the guests next door didn't like him doing hedge cutting or hammering in his garden. I was so tempted to send him a package of nails to make sure he had plenty to use.
The description of the AirBnB reads something "ultra quiet and extremely peaceful rural retreat".
Which is a nonsense really as it's a midterrace on a busy road with normal residential properties around. There's a field behind which I assume helps the rural qualification.

Holiday lets have really decimated the area. There's virtually no children in the area now, so the local school has shut.

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