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to still be struggling over a difficult birth, 19 years later? Am I pathetic?

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sadpapercourtesan · 20/12/2021 13:25

I have been diagnosed with CPTSD due to earlier childhood trauma, so I think it's safe to say I don't react normally to negative life events and lack resilience. I don't know why, but I have been having flashbacks and panic attacks lately, related to DS's birth nearly 20 years ago. I haven't told anyone IRL about them because it's ludicrous so long after the event.

My birth story:

I had gestational diabetes from 24 weeks and had to inject insulin twice a day, and got pre-eclampsia at about 26 weeks. I was in a wheelchair from 16 weeks with unusually severe SPD - the consultant who examined me before induction said I could expect to feel like a woman giving birth with a broken pelvis. I was admitted to hospital at 29 weeks and kept in until they induced me at 35, then another week because DS1 was in intensive care. At 30 weeks they showed me a baby weighing about 2lb fighting for his life, and told me to prepare myself (in the end he was 8lb7, because diabetes makes babies bigger. When I burst into tears after seeing the little baby, the midwife sniggered and said "not so keen to get it over with now, are you?" They made me feel as though I was going to be the worst mother in the world. I went into spontaneous labour at about 32 weeks and they had written in my notes that it shouldn't be stopped because my pre-eclampsia was so advanced, and I had had the steroid injections to mature the baby's lungs. Then a doctor came in and blackmailed me in front of my parents and husband to take a labour-retarding drug by saying that if I didn't I would be in a coma in two hours. My dad was in tears. Then one of the midwives told us it was because her colleague had given me a blood-thinner which they were suposed to have stopped giving me, because there was more than a 50% chance of my needing a C-section and I could have bled to death. The consultant came in in the morning and said that my husband and I were liars and that I had never been in labour, that the drug the doctor had given me was to reduce blood pressure.

I couldn't turn over in bed without help, I was in agony, I was vomiting and had an almost permanent headache. The midwives took the p*ss out of my weight/appearance with the PET oedema and alternated between shouting at me for trying to get out of bed (eg to use the toilet) and sending the ancillary staff in to tell me that if I didn't get up I wouldn't get fed. They were openly contemptuous of my wanting my husband around and were very rude to my family.

During the actual birth - it was 24 hours long after having had no decent sleep for weeks. I was hooked up to monitors and a drip so was not allowed to move off my back for the entire 24 hours despite this position being commonly recognised as agony for SPD sufferers. I was shouted at for making a fuss and called a "diva", laughed at for wetting the bed, and when the time finally came to push the baby out the midwife said "If you don't make more effort you're going to kill your baby" and then scolded me for screaming in pain. I had two failed attempts at epidural which has left me with permanent back pain. At one point, when I'd been stuck at 7cm dilated for hours, a male consultant came in, stormed up to me without even making eye contact, shoved his hand inside me and I experienced the worst, most blinding pain I've ever had, said "Now she can push" to the midwife and then stormed out again.

DS1 came out blue and floppy with the cord round his neck so was resuscitated and taken to ICU. I remember sitting on a metal bedpan in agony sobbing my heart out for about half an hour waiting for the placenta, then when it didn't come a midwife yanked on the cord and it snapped. The I started to bleed, everywhere. They rushed me to theatre and I thrashed about refusing point blank to let them touch me without giving me a general anaesthetic - I know it's not wise, but I had just had enough. A male doctor leaned down and said into my ear "No, childbirth isn't easy is it?" and then they put the mask over my face.

When I woke up I was covered in blood, someone was sponging my thighs, and someone put a Polaroid in my hand. I thought the baby had died. Then dh came in and enlightened me. I demanded to be taken to see him ,and a nice young midwife said she would take me but I musn't tell anyone because she would lose her job for moving me. I saw DS1 briefly and went back to recovery. Then they moved me back up to the ward. In the morning two midwives came in and accused me of rejecting my baby and not caring about seeing him. I didn't say I had already seen him because I didn't want to betray the trust of the other midwife. I asked if I could see him now, and they said I would have to get up and walk. I explained that I hadn't walked for six months and was recovering from a general anaesthetic, and suggested dh take me in the wheelchair. One of the midwives said "You can't be selfish now, you've got a baby". I tried to walk and collapsed in a pool of blood and vomit in the corridor. Two days later the paediatrician in charge of my son remarked that I looked like a vampire and was about to collapse. I was then offered a blood transfusion, which I took - they wrote in the notes that I had requested a transfusion!!! They also banned my husband from going into the neo-natal unit to see our son, because he had been delivering my expressed milk to the fridge for me and they thought it would be more fun to make me walk there myself, in pain.

I had more than 200 stitches and now have a rectocele and various other issues. Nobody ever explained to me exactly what my injuries were or how they were repaired, it was done under the general anaesthetic when the placenta was removed.

Does anyone else have trouble letting go of bad experiences like this? I feel so miserable.

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RabitWhole · 20/12/2021 13:30

Oh OP that sounds horrendous, I'm sorry you went through that. I am not in the UK so I can't give advice regarding what you can do after so long, but have you had therapy or similar? If you are having flash backs and panic attacks about it after all this time then please do seek help.

You would certainly have medical records on file relating to your pregnancy and birth, perhaps knowing how your injuries were caused might bring some closure? Is it worth speaking to your local PALS to find out if you can speak to someone? I appreciate it was nearly 20 years ago but if you've been left with lasting damage/injuries then maybe there might be the avenue of medical mal practice?

Surlyburd · 20/12/2021 13:37

Oh my god, i couldnt read and run. That sounds horrific. Im so sorry you went through all of that. The inconsideration and fownright abuse you recieved at the hands of people who should have made you feel safe is not forgivable. How was your relationship with your child afterwards? I dont blame you in the slightest for not being able to forgive and forget. I've no advice really, other than maybe talki g to your gp? Flowers

sadpapercourtesan · 20/12/2021 13:40

Thank you for replying, I think I do need to look into counselling in the New Year. I wouldn't make a complaint after all this time, I'd feel too guilty, especially as however awful it was for me they DID save my son's life, and he is the light of my life.

It tends to flare up when I'm anxious or struggling with other traumatic memories, it's like intrusive thoughts and exhausting.

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Chickychoccyegg · 20/12/2021 13:41

Oh my goodness op, that sounds absolutely traumatic, what a shame, and no wonder it still bothers you.
It sounds like you were treated appallingly by all the medical professionals who should have been helping and supporting you.

Stuckandinamess · 20/12/2021 13:43

No, you are most certainly not pathetic. If a friend told you these events had happened to her and asked if you thought she was pathetic, what would you say? I can guarantee you would say she isn't. Be kind to yourself.

It has taken me 19 years to pluck up the courage to deal with a traumatic birth, I really didn't want to open that Pandoras box but the effects of PTSD were impacting on me and my family too much and I eventually sought help.
In short, going through the treatment wasn't as bad as I thought it would be-in my mind it was going to be as horrific as the event itself but of course it wasnt, my brilliant therapist has got me to a place I never thought I would be. I have encountered some of my triggers and to do that and not end up in a hysterical mess, followed by feeling out of it for days makes me feel incredible.

This year, for the first time , I truly celebrated my sons birthday without the shadow of the trauma hanging over it. Every other birthday has been a combination of difficult emotions while painting on a smile but this year was genuine and I can't put in words how that felt.
Be kind to yourself, you aren't pathetic, you suffered trauma. There is help, please please think about reaching out for it. It is truly life changing.

HopelesslyHopeful87 · 20/12/2021 13:48

It is not ludicrous for you to be traumatised like that. That sounds horrific and I felt emotional on your behalf just reading that.

Please seek some private counselling to help you come to terms with this and also your childhood trauma.

ftw163532 · 20/12/2021 13:48

You're not pathetic and it's not ludicrous - you're traumatised. It's normal for trauma to be reactivated many years later.

Please don't beat yourself up - you deserve compassion not cruelty.

Your nervous system reacts to you beating yourself up the same way it reacts to another person being nasty to you. So the first thing you can do to help you manage things is to treat yourself with compassion.

If you explore therapy, please make sure it is a trauma therapy with someone who is qualified and experienced in treating trauma. Counselling is specifically not approved as a treatment for trauma as it can and does make it worse.

BoneWithTheWind · 20/12/2021 13:48

The treatment you experienced was utterly shocking. I am so sorry you had to endure this, it's no wonder this is still haunting you.
I am sure someone will come along with some advice, I have none unfortunately, just wanted to assure you that you absolutely are not pathetic. You went through a nightmare and obviously there is a LOT of unresolved trauma. I agree with PP that therapy might be a good place to start.
Hugs xx

ftw163532 · 20/12/2021 13:49

And when I say about not beating yourself up, I'm including all the blame and condemnation you're heaping on yourself.

It's not your fault you're traumatised.

ChikiTIKI · 20/12/2021 14:21

Your reaction to such a traumatic series of events is totally normal.

I'm so sorry you were treated that way.

I have sought support from the birth trauma association. They have a private Facebook group where people share their feelings and support each other. I would recommend joining if you feel up to it.

I had ptsd from my first child's birth and had emdr therapy through the NHS which was life changing.

I hope you have some support in real life. Have you looked in to counselling?

Toplowlight · 20/12/2021 14:30

That sounds deeply and profoundly traumatic - I don’t think it’s surprising at all that you haven’t moved on easily.

Have you had any kind of therapy or counselling to help you address the trauma?

Anotherdayanotherdollar · 20/12/2021 14:37

Omg that sounds horrendous

Ikeabag · 20/12/2021 15:40

Absolutely not unreasonable. I ended up with PTSD after mine, a birth that by general standards wasn't "that bad" - the severity isn't relevant, the way you process it (or don't) is the thing that matters. I had EMDR which was helpful. My experience was tied up to the death of a parent which made me fearful of hospitals, I didn't want a hospital birth but circumstances meant I had one in the end. I do recommend speaking to a GP and asking for next steps, I don't know what the pathway would be for you to receive help. If you haven't had EMDR (really sorry but I couldn't read your full post as I know what it'll do to my head) it involves going over the things that happened and it's exhausting but I found it genuinely helpful. I also want to say you've been a parent for 20 years carrying this burden of shite, that's no mean feat. It could be that your charges are looking after yourself now to the extent that you have the headspace to start prioritising your own stuff and that may be why it's reared its head now.

Ikeabag · 20/12/2021 15:40

*themselves not yourself

tealandteal · 20/12/2021 15:54

Imagine a friend described all those things happened to her in the course of a different type of operation or in some other event. Just because it was the birth of your son doesn’t make your feelings any less valid or the experience any less traumatising. I have no experience with what might help you but I think it’s definitely seeing if some sort of therapy can help you with this.

sadpapercourtesan · 20/12/2021 17:02

I was on the pathway to EMDR a few years ago, when I was diagnosed with CPTSD, but then my dad became seriously ill and I sort of dropped everything to look after him. I think I do need to sort some therapy out in the New Year. It's very encouraging that others have been through similar and found that there is help out there. I do think there's some truth in the idea that it's rearing its head now because there are fewer emotional demands on me, DS1 struggled massively with mental health over the past few years but is now at uni, thriving and I'm much less worried about him.

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Stuckandinamess · 21/12/2021 13:43

I think you may be right there in terms of now being the time as DS is older and more independent. I was always so desperate to hide my PTSD as I was worried he might somehow feel guilty. Although he isn't at Uni and still at home he is much more independent - driving, working, big circle of friends and a girlfriend. I have more time on my hands and space in my head so for me, it was a good time to deal with it and focus on getting myself better rather than living the way I did. Looking back, I was living in a shadow and now feel I am truly being me and in the sun. Hope that doesn't sound weird.

Chasingaftermidnight · 21/12/2021 13:52

Oh my goodness you aren’t pathetic, that sounds nothing short of horrific. What terrible treatment you endured - that is obstetric violence.

I think we expect women to ‘deal with’ things in childbirth that we accept would cause massive trauma in any other context. Imagine a friend telling you they’d had this experience after an operation or a car accident. You’d never dream of calling them ludicrous or pathetic.

MimiDaisy11 · 21/12/2021 13:53

So sorry you went through that. You were in such a vulnerable position and for people to treat you like that it’s just horrible.

Bluntness100 · 21/12/2021 13:56

That’s absolutely shocking, I’ve never heard of anything so bad, them all getting together and hurling abuse at you like that, laughing at you taunting you, threatening you blackmailing you calling you a liar, it’s appalling.

No wonder you can’t get over it.

Suzanne999 · 21/12/2021 14:12

Oh my God, I’ve just been shrieking shit, shit when you said the midwife yanked on the cord. Stupid, stupid woman. I thought I had a crap birth experience first time round……….. How you got through all of that I’ll never know.
It looks like several rules in the medical care book were broken. I’d be suing the arse of them just to get my anger out.
I think a good counsellor, some therapy to release what you went through will help. Maybe hypnotherapy later if you’re not adverse to it.

( while I’m sure the majority of midwifery staff are caring I’ve long had a theory that a percentage of them are real masochists, and I met a few of them)

Suzanne999 · 21/12/2021 14:16

@ftw163532

You're not pathetic and it's not ludicrous - you're traumatised. It's normal for trauma to be reactivated many years later.

Please don't beat yourself up - you deserve compassion not cruelty.

Your nervous system reacts to you beating yourself up the same way it reacts to another person being nasty to you. So the first thing you can do to help you manage things is to treat yourself with compassion.

If you explore therapy, please make sure it is a trauma therapy with someone who is qualified and experienced in treating trauma. Counselling is specifically not approved as a treatment for trauma as it can and does make it worse.

Sorry—- I didn’t realise the counselling bit not being appropriate so ignore the bit I said about that.

I am truly shocked at the appalling treatment you received and hope with all my heart that you’ll find help and healing. Be kind to yourself.

AndSoFinally · 21/12/2021 14:35

That sounds horrific.

How old are you OP?

sadpapercourtesan · 21/12/2021 17:09

@AndSoFinally I'm 44

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sadpapercourtesan · 21/12/2021 17:12

I still get phantom pains when I think too much about it...I'm having them now, it's horrible. Definitely time to tackle it properly in the New Year. Thanks for all the encouragement, it's very much appreciated.

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