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If that's a business meeting does it explain why the country is in it's current state?

25 replies

longwayoff · 20/12/2021 10:30

Come on then, defenders of Bozo, explain it away for us plebs who obviously can't see the 'gathering' for what it is. And if anyone missed Kay Birley interviewing the lying Dominic Raab, do track it down. She squeaks for the nation.

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3luckystars · 20/12/2021 10:32

Are you talking about that party where that woman was laughing her head off talking about it, and then bawling her eyes out because she got caught and lost her job?

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 20/12/2021 10:32

Their "explanation" is "nothing to see here, oiks"

CactusFlowers · 20/12/2021 10:36

@3luckystars

Are you talking about that party where that woman was laughing her head off talking about it, and then bawling her eyes out because she got caught and lost her job?
Nope, they had a ‘business meeting’ in the garden of number 10 with drinks. In May 2020 when the rest of the plebs weren’t even allowed to sit in the garden with their elderly relatives.

Raab says it was definitely a meeting because they were wearing suits.

SickAndTiredAgain · 20/12/2021 10:37

And if anyone missed Kay Birley interviewing the lying Dominic Raab, do track it down. She squeaks for the nation.

Excellent typo.

longwayoff · 20/12/2021 10:38

Listen to it. Not a typo, she can't believe what he's saying.

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SickAndTiredAgain · 20/12/2021 10:41

@longwayoff

Listen to it. Not a typo, she can't believe what he's saying.
Oh sorry!! You’re right, I haven’t seen it. I thought you meant speaks. I’ll watch now for the squeaking.
SeasonFinale · 20/12/2021 10:42

Raab was dreadful and made a right balls up of his defending the situation.

Having said that if they had all been together in a work meeting on 10 Downing Streetis having a drink together after in the garden making anything worse? Probably not. Was it ridiculous to do so at the time it happened? Yes.

Bluntness100 · 20/12/2021 10:45

What an odd thread, you genuinely believe there was no meeting they all just got together for a piss up?

Aye.

MeMumI · 20/12/2021 10:48

WTF was Raab's justification that it was acceptable because no 10 is both a place of work and a home? Johnson doesn't even live at no 10... he moved next door to the flat above no 11.

Just lies, on top of lies on top of more lies....

MousesBack · 20/12/2021 10:50

Having said that if they had all been together in a work meeting on 10 Downing Street having a drink together after in the garden making anything worse? Probably not. Was it ridiculous to do so at the time it happened? Yes.

They probably did it every night. I guess you could say "they've earned a chance to relax" but it's the optics which aren't good - it looks terrible to those who made their own sometimes huge sacrifices because they were told to, by the very same people who are sitting in that terrace drinking wine.

madisonbridges · 20/12/2021 10:50

I understand people are annoyed about a party. I think that was really galling and wrong. But this? They work in Downing Street next to each other all the time. What does it matter if they decide to move the meeting outside? In fact I'd think it would be less riskier to meet outside. It's all on works premises so what's the big deal?

SallyLondon · 20/12/2021 10:52

The lies and the pathetic attempts to explain it away are what's got me. If it's a business meeting, why is there wine and a spouse and baby there - very unprofessional! - and if it's a drinks party, well that's shouldn't have been happening at all.

DeclareThePenniesOnYourEyes · 20/12/2021 10:53

I’ve been to meetings and I’ve been to after work drinks. I know which one of those that was.

DaisyNGO · 20/12/2021 10:58

@madisonbridges

I understand people are annoyed about a party. I think that was really galling and wrong. But this? They work in Downing Street next to each other all the time. What does it matter if they decide to move the meeting outside? In fact I'd think it would be less riskier to meet outside. It's all on works premises so what's the big deal?
So why couldn't I take DC to my partner's work do - the one he wasn't allowed to have under the law, hence Raab calling it a work meeting?
AngelicaElizaAndPeggy · 20/12/2021 10:58

Well, I always have bottles of bolly and there is always a BBQ vibe at the staff meetings I go to.

daimbarsatemydogsbone · 20/12/2021 11:02

@AngelicaElizaAndPeggy

Well, I always have bottles of bolly and there is always a BBQ vibe at the staff meetings I go to.
Grin
longwayoff · 20/12/2021 11:04

Frankly, if that's the way they conduct 'business', no wonder this country's in the toilet. They'd be more believable if they simply said what it obviously is, another taxpayer funded piss up and two Fs to everyone who isn't there.

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GingerbreadandJellytots · 20/12/2021 11:20

The number of cigarette packet polices government come out with i really would not be surprised to find that most of their business meetings are sat around on patio furniture, with glasses of vino, pizza and cheese boards a plenty. Where else is the only thing to write on a cigarette packet? It all makes sense to me now anyway

Player067 · 20/12/2021 11:22

@DeclareThePenniesOnYourEyes

I’ve been to meetings and I’ve been to after work drinks. I know which one of those that was.
Absolutely this.
mumda · 20/12/2021 11:23

@madisonbridges

I understand people are annoyed about a party. I think that was really galling and wrong. But this? They work in Downing Street next to each other all the time. What does it matter if they decide to move the meeting outside? In fact I'd think it would be less riskier to meet outside. It's all on works premises so what's the big deal?
Anyone working together was in a "work bubble". For all the nonsense of people having "home bubbles" and "work bubbles"

It all feels like a dreadful distraction. Perhaps someone doesn't want us to go into further lockdowns and is pointing out that no one stuck to them.
Or maybe Boris hasn't obeyed the global elite and put us into lockdown for the so far very mild omicron variant, and is being punished by his own petard.

WindyState · 20/12/2021 11:28

Either those pricks are lying their arses off again about following the rules, or they do genuienly discuss critical matters of government over cheese and wine.

Surely nobody is surprised about that shower of wankers behaving in such ways by now?

Alarmset · 20/12/2021 11:48

I've argued completely the opposite way on another thread, but in a world where we're supposed to focus on staff wellbeing, isn't it a good thing if people who must have been working all hours under intense pressure get an hour or two in a nice garden to debrief?

We don't want government to comprise entirely of broken people.

It's a good argument Grin except no one else was allowed to do it.

madisonbridges · 20/12/2021 12:18

@WindyState

Either those pricks are lying their arses off again about following the rules, or they do genuienly discuss critical matters of government over cheese and wine.

Surely nobody is surprised about that shower of wankers behaving in such ways by now?

I understand why people might object to alcohol but what is the obsession with cheese. Is it an inherently decadent foodstuff? 🤔
GingerbreadandJellytots · 20/12/2021 12:32

@madisonbridges

I just think that eating cheese in that way, relaxed with a cheese board is a very relaxed way of eating. It's what we do after a day of feasting on Christmas Day, for instance. Having a ham and cheese sandwich between important meetings, or a lunchbox in the staff fridge filled with feta salad, or choffing down a couple of baby bels after the school run, none of that is luxurious.

kickupafuss · 20/12/2021 12:38

@madisonbridges

I understand people are annoyed about a party. I think that was really galling and wrong. But this? They work in Downing Street next to each other all the time. What does it matter if they decide to move the meeting outside? In fact I'd think it would be less riskier to meet outside. It's all on works premises so what's the big deal?
The point is that nobody else was allowed to do this - the government said it wasn't allowed.

Can you imagine if workers every from office/ hospital/ school had just piled out into the car park after work with bottles of wine? I'm sure the police would have been round to break it up and possibly even arrest people.

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