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I’ve disappointed my mother again

347 replies

TheDisappointment · 18/12/2021 23:58

Back in September I mentioned to my mum that my DD (7) has pointed out she wanted to go to the pantomime and showed me the specific show she wanted to go to so I was booking tickets – DD has never been to the theatre before as it was cancelled last year and I didn’t have the money before 2020 as I wasn’t working.

Mum said she wanted to go too but couldn’t afford her own ticket so I offered to get it her as her Christmas present but if I did she’d only get a small present off me to open on Christmas day as the ticket cost is above my usual budget to spend on her (ticket was £31 I usually only spend max £25 on her at Christmas). She said this was fine.

For context I’m a single parent and have been since 2017, I work but get no CM so everything falls to me, I’m in a better position financially as I’ve worked hard to get a promotion. My mum doesn’t work, she claims she’s retired (she’s 55) but doesn’t have a private pension and won’t claim anything else because “she won’t be forced to work now she’s old” (this is not me judging here, it’s adding context). Because of that she never gets me a Christmas present, I’ve always been fine with it.

We went to the Panto last weekend and had a lovely time. I paid for everything, drove there, paid for parking, bought drinks and a programme each at the theatre. All in the trip cost me about £120, but I didn’t mind as it was a treat and only once a year – but it’s not something I’d choose as a present for her every year it was just something she said she wanted to do.

Today I’ve seen my mum. She’s said she’s really looking forward to opening all her presents from me, I reminded her that as I’d paid for us to go to the panto she would have one small present from under £10 in value and I had got DD to make each of her grandparents a Christmas Bauble so she’d get that too.

She looked me straight in the eye and said she didn’t remember that conversation and had assumed the panto was an extra and was DDs Christmas present (it was one of them) not hers. She said she’s disappointed that at a time when she’s struggling the most and I’m not I won’t treat her. I told her roughly how much the theatre trip cost me and she just said while still looking at me “Well you can afford it”.

She’s since text me that she’s disappointed in me, and considered not seeing me on Christmas Day but has decided for DDs sake she’ll see me. She says she knows I spend upwards of £200 on my DD (I have this year I admit, I’ve bought her something she’s been asking for for years but I’ve never been able to afford as it’s £70+ and the panto and a few smaller gifts too and then her main Santa gift but usually I limit DDs spends to £70-100 including Santa, not that it matters)

I only have DD until lunchtime on CD anyway so WIBU to take up her offer not to see us? It’s really upset me that I worked extra shifts to give my DD a nice experience and my mums tarnished it.

OP posts:
AngelinaFibres · 19/12/2021 08:54

@Thefuturestory

The sooner you distance yourself from her manipulation and narcissistic behaviour the better.
Absolutely this. Set your boundaries and mean it. Do it this time and the power is yours. Wobble and waver and this will be the Christmas scenario you will have for the rest of your life.
leeloo1 · 19/12/2021 08:55

Op- can I ask do you get presents from anyone at Xmas? If you get no cm I’d assume your ex may not help your dd buy a gift for you or give you one himself.

It just struck me that you’re expected to give your mother a range of gifts, but may well have nothing to open yourself, which is pretty grim really. Does your mother know how many gifts you get - and if it is none how awful is it that she still gives you nothing?

Your mother may not have much money, but she could put a bit aside each month to buy a pack of your favourite biscuits or shampoo or something and gift wrap them (ffs the pound shop do some nice things if she put some effort in to finding them) so it’s not that she can’t afford to get you a gift it’s that she can’t be bothered. Looking at it like this might help you to consider how much you should do for her and what your expectations should be.

AngelinaFibres · 19/12/2021 08:55

@olympicsrock

This is perfect! Take the opportunity of this fall out to really enjoy your daughter this Christmas morning , set some ground rules and even this out. She cannot be your dependent aged 55.

FollowYourOwnNorthStar

Agree - you need stronger boundaries with the people in your life.

Text to a Mum -

“Hi Mum, I’m really concerned that you don’t remember the conversation we had about the Panto tickets. If you did, it would have prevented all your expectations about a present, as I told you the Panto ticket would be in, with something small for the day itself. I say this with love, if you really don’t remember the conversation, I think you need to speak to your GP about this pretty soon. It could be the start of something serious, and I would hate for you to forget any other important conversations with me, or other people, and for you to fall out with them over mistaken memories.

In relation to Christmas, I’ve thought about what you’ve said, and you know, you’re right. I only have DD up to midday, and that time is so precious to me. Let’s skip seeing each other this Christmas and catch up in the New Year.

Finally, now you’ve raised the issue of presents, I guess it’s a good time to talk about them. I thought we could cut adult presents between you and me out from now on. I don’t want you to feel pressure to buy me something if you don’t have the money and I know you wouldn’t feel right getting gifts from me if you can’t give them in return. Best to take the pressure off and say none, ok?

Take care, see you in the New Year, and please, think about booking that GP appointment for your memory now.

This is perfect
thedarkling · 19/12/2021 08:56

Any adult who is so grabby about presents has serious issues. Who gives a shit seriously. We don't even buy each other presents anymore. She's like a spoiled child!

ittakes2 · 19/12/2021 08:58

You sound lovely. Your mum is not and I am sorry about that. It's a true credit to your natural personality that you have turned out so lovely despite having her as a mother. She sounds toxic - absolutely don't see her for christmas and consider going low or no contact long term.

JustUseTheDoorSanta · 19/12/2021 09:00

Not sure why you'd want her there for Xmas to be honest, she doesn't sound pleasant. Just say brightly "Ok, enjoy your Xmas and see you next year."

Hoppinggreen · 19/12/2021 09:01

@notaladyinred

Mobster = monster!
Both I would say OP, she’s awful. Plan the Xmas Day around what you want instead
hopeishere · 19/12/2021 09:04

I'd not make any points about memory loss and GP appointments - she's pulling a fast one and should be called out on it. Pretending you think it's a memory issue just shift the focus off her shitty behaviour.

"Let's just leave it this year mum. I'll see you in the new year. I do have a small present for you and will give it to you then. You don't get me anything so no need for us to see each other on Christmas Day."

PickElaine · 19/12/2021 09:04

I felt so sad for you reading how your mother has treated you. Thanks

It's awful that you are justifying to us and your mother how much you have spent on who and what. I'm hoping that this incident has pushed you to the point where you have realised that your mother's behaviour isn't enhancing your or your daughter's life.

Heronwatcher · 19/12/2021 09:05

Absolutely, nicely, call her bluff. Don’t see her. She’ll be even worse on the day and upset you. Make it clear, that you think this behaviour is batshit which it is. “Mum your comments were really upsetting and I am very surprised that you don’t remember the conversation. Do you think you might need to see a doctor? Anyway since it’s clear that we don’t share the same ethos about Christmas I think it’s better if we don’t see each other until Boxing Day and in future I am not going to be buying gifts at all for you since it causes so much stress and worry for us both. I am sure you’ll understand I have to save for DDs future and my own retirement.” By the way all of this present tallying and discussion about how many gifts she’s getting is absolutely not normal- it sounds like she’s behaving like a petulant 4 yr old and, even when retired on a state pension my own gran would have starved for 3 months rather than not buy us anything.

HerkyBaby · 19/12/2021 09:06

Look up the characteristics of a narcissistic mother. Start building barriers which include not having her over at Christmas.

rainbowstardrops · 19/12/2021 09:08

Wow, that really is cheeky, especially as she doesn't even buy you anything!!!
What on earth does she live on?

Phobiaphobic · 19/12/2021 09:10

Your mother is a childish petulant bully. But you know this, I expect. There are some very good books on how to deal with narcissistic parents.

Pazuzu · 19/12/2021 09:17

Quick question OP. Your mum is 55, "retired", doesn't have a private pension and doesn't claim anything (as far as you know). What's she actually living on?

Other than that, call her bluff. She wants the privilege of being called your mother, she can bloody well act like it.

YanTanTetheraPetheraPimp · 19/12/2021 09:19

Sounds like my mother who’d compare how much the three of us had spent on her presents and inevitably behave like your mother towards me ☹️
Call her bluff OP, and have a lovely Christmas without her!

U8976532 · 19/12/2021 09:19

She sounds awful OP and I suspect she wouldn't listen if you tried to explain. But please know you are being entirely reasonable, I know what those feelings of guilt from manipulation feel like, try to take comfort from all of us telling you YANBU and rise above it. That's the most realistic advice I can think to give because I know people like her can't be reasoned with and it's not as simple as cutting someone out.

ShrinkingViolet9 · 19/12/2021 09:24

I think the thread title should have been:

Once again, my mother is claiming to be disappointed

not

I’ve disappointed my mother again

She's in her 50s - not 5 years old. I'd let her stew over Christmas.

Benjispruce5 · 19/12/2021 09:26

Oh my goodness op she sounds very childish, selfish and unempathetic. You did a kind thing. I think you need to treat her like a petulant child.

phishy · 19/12/2021 09:26

@CovidCorvid

Thread title is wrong. Your mother has disappointed you again. You need to change your way of thinking.

Absolutely this 💯

RampantIvy · 19/12/2021 09:27

You haven't disappointed her again. She has disappointed you again.

She is lazy, mean and manipulative. Take her up on her offer and say OK, I'll see you after Christmas.

Why isn't she working? Is she workshy? 55 is not old.

GutsInMay · 19/12/2021 09:33

I have no respect for people who treat gifts and presents as if they were bargaining a pay rise or negotiating a commercial deal.

She sounds utterly narcissistic, and as such you will never satisfy her or make her happy unless you put your whole life, all your income snd more at her disposal. And even then she will be disparaging that you don’t earn more in order to service her hint greed of an entitled ego.

Tell her she’s welcome, or not, to do as she pleases at Christmas.

MrsLarry · 19/12/2021 09:34

Yes, absolutely take her up on her offer. Spend a relaxed time with your daughter, and then the rest of the day doing what you want without your toxic mother trying to make you feel crap. She sounds truly horrible.

GutsInMay · 19/12/2021 09:34

And FFS, if my Dd was a single parent or in anyway needing to budget I would insist that she not spend money on me.

FizzyTango · 19/12/2021 09:36

Who even behaves like that? Honestly your mum has issues. You wouldn’t dream of doing the same to her, so do yourself a favour and leave her to it. What a horrible mum she is!

DrSeuss · 19/12/2021 09:37

Your mother. is disappointed as she failed to bully you into doing what she wanted. You did nothing. That was all her.

One of my greatest regrets in life is that I put up with my late mother's manipulative, abusive bullshit. Don't be me. Tell her to fuck off now!