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I’ve disappointed my mother again

347 replies

TheDisappointment · 18/12/2021 23:58

Back in September I mentioned to my mum that my DD (7) has pointed out she wanted to go to the pantomime and showed me the specific show she wanted to go to so I was booking tickets – DD has never been to the theatre before as it was cancelled last year and I didn’t have the money before 2020 as I wasn’t working.

Mum said she wanted to go too but couldn’t afford her own ticket so I offered to get it her as her Christmas present but if I did she’d only get a small present off me to open on Christmas day as the ticket cost is above my usual budget to spend on her (ticket was £31 I usually only spend max £25 on her at Christmas). She said this was fine.

For context I’m a single parent and have been since 2017, I work but get no CM so everything falls to me, I’m in a better position financially as I’ve worked hard to get a promotion. My mum doesn’t work, she claims she’s retired (she’s 55) but doesn’t have a private pension and won’t claim anything else because “she won’t be forced to work now she’s old” (this is not me judging here, it’s adding context). Because of that she never gets me a Christmas present, I’ve always been fine with it.

We went to the Panto last weekend and had a lovely time. I paid for everything, drove there, paid for parking, bought drinks and a programme each at the theatre. All in the trip cost me about £120, but I didn’t mind as it was a treat and only once a year – but it’s not something I’d choose as a present for her every year it was just something she said she wanted to do.

Today I’ve seen my mum. She’s said she’s really looking forward to opening all her presents from me, I reminded her that as I’d paid for us to go to the panto she would have one small present from under £10 in value and I had got DD to make each of her grandparents a Christmas Bauble so she’d get that too.

She looked me straight in the eye and said she didn’t remember that conversation and had assumed the panto was an extra and was DDs Christmas present (it was one of them) not hers. She said she’s disappointed that at a time when she’s struggling the most and I’m not I won’t treat her. I told her roughly how much the theatre trip cost me and she just said while still looking at me “Well you can afford it”.

She’s since text me that she’s disappointed in me, and considered not seeing me on Christmas Day but has decided for DDs sake she’ll see me. She says she knows I spend upwards of £200 on my DD (I have this year I admit, I’ve bought her something she’s been asking for for years but I’ve never been able to afford as it’s £70+ and the panto and a few smaller gifts too and then her main Santa gift but usually I limit DDs spends to £70-100 including Santa, not that it matters)

I only have DD until lunchtime on CD anyway so WIBU to take up her offer not to see us? It’s really upset me that I worked extra shifts to give my DD a nice experience and my mums tarnished it.

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JourneyToThePlacentaOfTheEarth · 19/12/2021 02:26

I would not be seeing this woman on Xmas day or any day, awful behaviour

GatoradeMeBitch · 19/12/2021 02:40

It might be for the best to tell her this Christmas is off, because I can't imagine that she will be sparkling company. Make it a gift for yourself!

Bigboysmademedoit · 19/12/2021 03:50

Does she join you for Christmas dinner and, if so, who provides it? She sounds very entitled and should be ashamed seeing how you treat your daughter compared to how she treats her own daughter. Call her bluff and enjoy Christmas with your child Xmas Smile

CiaoEB · 19/12/2021 04:16

She’s gaslighting you into doubting what you say so she can stay in control of you and continue to get the outcome she wants. Manipulation 101. I’d bet my bottom dollar it’s not the first time.

Start paying attention to other things she does that always seemed off or manipulative or selfish or deliberately cruel but you feel embarrassed even thinking about them because you always believed mother’s automatically have their children’s best interests at heart and “try their best/didn’t mean it/it’s just her way”.

Unfortunately selfish jealous manipulative people can have still have children and become parents. She’s already jealous of your relationship with your daughter expecting you to spend more on her than your own child. Be very careful with that. As your daughter gets older she may try to manipulate you both to try and drive a wedge between you.

You can never win with people like that. You need to learn boundary setting and how to grey rock and concentrate on your healthy relationships with loved ones and your relationship with your daughter, making sure she never experiences what you did.

Pixxie7 · 19/12/2021 04:32

I would text her and say actually you won’t be seeing her on Christmas Day as you have made other arrangements as she clearly doesn’t appreciate anything you do for her. Enjoy the morning with your DD and relax in the afternoon.
She doesn’t deserve you.

sashh · 19/12/2021 04:38

Sounds like you won't miss much if she doesn't see you Xmas day.

Ladywinesalot · 19/12/2021 04:40

I’m sorry op your mum is being so nasty and selfish.
55 is not old whether she wants to work or not.

The manipulation she’s using on you is horrid.
Are you an only child?

Sounds like she has turned you into the parent and care giver whilst she’s the child…

Ladywinesalot · 19/12/2021 04:41

Oh and perhaps you develop a nasty cold/covid xmas eve?

Wouldn’t want to give it to her now would you? Xmas Hmm

FollowYourOwnNorthStar · 19/12/2021 04:55

Agree - you need stronger boundaries with the people in your life.

Text to a Mum -

“Hi Mum, I’m really concerned that you don’t remember the conversation we had about the Panto tickets. If you did, it would have prevented all your expectations about a present, as I told you the Panto ticket would be in, with something small for the day itself. I say this with love, if you really don’t remember the conversation, I think you need to speak to your GP about this pretty soon. It could be the start of something serious, and I would hate for you to forget any other important conversations with me, or other people, and for you to fall out with them over mistaken memories.

In relation to Christmas, I’ve thought about what you’ve said, and you know, you’re right. I only have DD up to midday, and that time is so precious to me. Let’s skip seeing each other this Christmas and catch up in the New Year.

Finally, now you’ve raised the issue of presents, I guess it’s a good time to talk about them. I thought we could cut adult presents between you and me out from now on. I don’t want you to feel pressure to buy me something if you don’t have the money and I know you wouldn’t feel right getting gifts from me if you can’t give them in return. Best to take the pressure off and say none, ok?

Take care, see you in the New Year, and please, think about booking that GP appointment for your memory now.

Love TheDisappointment

FollowYourOwnNorthStar · 19/12/2021 04:56

PS I know she doesn’t buy you presents, but this little fiction in the text helps it flow along better.

Newnameobviously · 19/12/2021 04:57

I'm 60 and recently retired. My DC know I don't want presents. I have enough stuff. I know they have bought DH an 'experience' and assume I'll get something similar, probably theatre tickets because that's my passion. If I didn't get anything at all I wouldn't be bothered. For me Christmas is about seeing family, playing games and lovely food and drink.

Your mum is being unreasonable and grabby. I assume she has her reasons but they aren't your problem. Don't bother yourself about her. Tell her you have made other plans for Christmas and you will see her next year, then have a good time with your DD.

Laserbird16 · 19/12/2021 05:03

Your mum has decided she will see you on Christmas day even though she is so disappointed? What a dick

I'd let her tanty blow up in her face and tell her actually it's better if she doesn't come. Then enjoy your morning with DD with no grumpy granny trying to make it about her, then enjoy your afternoon. Again what a dick

Don't put up with it

Longdistance · 19/12/2021 05:03

Your dm sounds like a lazy entitled cf.
Spend Christmas Day at home with your dd and sod your m. Sounds like she’s jealous of your independence as a single mum and she’s manipulating you.

FreeBritnee · 19/12/2021 05:05

Wow! I struggle to remember reading worse on here in regard to entitlement!

Thesechipsdontlie · 19/12/2021 05:12

Came here to say gaslighting, and other narcissistic warning signs are there in your mum's behaviour, op.

Focus on your DD and yourself, if your mum is narcissistic (I obv can't say for certain) there are lots of helpful threads here about how to handle to that kind of behaviour/person, as normal conversations can often back fire.

You sound like a lovely mum and daughter fwiw

CiaoEB · 19/12/2021 05:13

@FollowYourOwnNorthStar

Agree - you need stronger boundaries with the people in your life.

Text to a Mum -

“Hi Mum, I’m really concerned that you don’t remember the conversation we had about the Panto tickets. If you did, it would have prevented all your expectations about a present, as I told you the Panto ticket would be in, with something small for the day itself. I say this with love, if you really don’t remember the conversation, I think you need to speak to your GP about this pretty soon. It could be the start of something serious, and I would hate for you to forget any other important conversations with me, or other people, and for you to fall out with them over mistaken memories.

In relation to Christmas, I’ve thought about what you’ve said, and you know, you’re right. I only have DD up to midday, and that time is so precious to me. Let’s skip seeing each other this Christmas and catch up in the New Year.

Finally, now you’ve raised the issue of presents, I guess it’s a good time to talk about them. I thought we could cut adult presents between you and me out from now on. I don’t want you to feel pressure to buy me something if you don’t have the money and I know you wouldn’t feel right getting gifts from me if you can’t give them in return. Best to take the pressure off and say none, ok?

Take care, see you in the New Year, and please, think about booking that GP appointment for your memory now.

Love TheDisappointment

This is perfect. It lets her know she can’t get away with lying anymore and that any manipulative behaviour has repercussions.
pompomsgalore · 19/12/2021 05:17

What's she like the rest of the year?

Is she always gas lighting you and manipulate?

lemmein · 19/12/2021 05:28

Wow, just wow Shock

I can't imagine EVER saying any of that to my DDs. I think OP, as obviously you've grown up around this behaviour it's possible you don't even appreciate how weird it is (indicated by your thread title) but it is; very grabby and manipulative, and frankly unbelievable.

Remind your mum in most families, apart from exceptional circumstances money trickles down, not up. If it was your 7 year old saying that I'd think she needed a good talking to, never mind your mum. Bizarre behaviour.

lemmein · 19/12/2021 05:29

Love @FollowYourOwnNorthStar's reply, definitely send that

Aphrodite31 · 19/12/2021 05:45

She said looking forward to presents to check was getting some after panto

Mollymalone123 · 19/12/2021 05:55

I tell my children every year not to get me anything or DH or just get a box of chocs between us-I don’t want my children wasting money on us!
I can’t imagine that my DM would have ever had your ‘D’M’s attitude.
It shouldn’t matter if you spent £1 or £1000 on your DD.I too would call her bluff and explain how ‘disappointed’ you are in her attitude

SimpsonsXmasBoogie · 19/12/2021 05:57

I'm sorry OP, but I need to be blunt - your mother is a total wanker.

Text her back and say "good idea, DD and I will do Christmas without you. We could do with a break from you. Have a nice Christmas"

Resume contact when you feel that you want to. That might take a while.

Stop being ok with her not getting you a Christmas present. She doesn't respect you and you're encouraging that by being fine with her treating you badly. My Dad doesn't have 2 pennies to rub together but he still gets me a card and some biscuits or similar, to show willing.

Thatginismine · 19/12/2021 05:58

100% on AIBU is almost unheard of. YANBU! Have a look on the we took you to stately homes thread on here.

FixItUpChappie · 19/12/2021 05:59

Her behaviour is disgusting she should be pulled up on it calmly and firmly then be left to make her own decision with no smoothing over from you. I gather she has form for being manipulative? It's none of her business how else you spend your money.

OP, unless they physically have a gun to your head, people can only treat you as badly as you allow them to.

^^This definitely

CurtainTroubles · 19/12/2021 06:03

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