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100% attendance rewards at school.

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TravellingSpoon · 15/12/2021 08:24

Dd's secondary school has decided to boost attendance they are running a competition that started on 1st December so that anyone that gets 100% attendance between then and 1st July will be rewarded with a trip to Aston Towers.

AIBU to think that in the current times its absolutely ridiculous? With Covid, the terrible cold we have going round and a norovirus outbreak it's hard enough. But you will have children going to school sick because they want this trip.

Dd is already out as she had a reaction to her covid vaccine ☹

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Colladanngelo · 15/12/2021 08:25

I’d complain. It’s massively unfair and ableist

TravellingSpoon · 15/12/2021 08:29

Alton Towers. I dont thin k Aston towers (if that exists) would have quite the appeal.

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supercritter · 15/12/2021 08:32

My dd attendance is at 9% due to chronic illness. Not her fault. Hate this shit

Sirzy · 15/12/2021 08:36

Things like this are awful and discriminatory. It’s also completely pointless as it will demotivate many students,

I have noticed that DS school had a very flexible approach to these things when they know a student has underlying problems which is better as it’s at least personalised.

Cloudyzebra · 15/12/2021 08:37

These awards make me so sad for any DC who have ongoing health issues. They are set up to fail every year. It is so unfair.

Onehotmess · 15/12/2021 08:39

You can’t win everything. I’m sure you’re child(en) will win other awards in their school career. If it’s really important to you then just take the kid to Alton Towers in July?

Onehotmess · 15/12/2021 08:40
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MrsTimRiggins · 15/12/2021 08:41

It’s nothing to do with ‘current times’, it’s a shit idea all the rest of the time too.

Whatwouldscullydo · 15/12/2021 08:42

I think they should be named.

Highly discriminatory. Anyone ehos disabled or has omg term conditions like asthma or epilepsy etc has no chance.

Its often down to the parents as kids aren't always in control of ot themselves. Parebts meed to take them.or drive them.pr provide money for buses etc

Plus not being funny but if the only thing u are known.for is showing up then that's pathetic. More effort should he placed in knowing your students well enough that u don't need a certificate to remind u they have been in class

TankFlyBoss · 15/12/2021 08:43

I'm an education welfare officer. So school attendance is my entire professional life. I hate 100% attendance awards, and don't think it's good practice. I do what I can to discourage the schools I work with from doing this sort of thing.

Whatwouldscullydo · 15/12/2021 08:43

Long term

Sweetleftfood · 15/12/2021 08:45

Our secondary school finally scrapped it this year, which I think is good, who needs a certificate to say you have attended school?? even worth with a reward trip.

TheBoringDiaries · 15/12/2021 08:56

If an employer did this they would be rinsed dry at the law courts. Why are schools allowed to do it? When I worked in HR, one particularly nasty manager waltzed in to our office and asked if she could give a special bonus payment to members of her team that hadn't taken any time off sick that year to "teach the others a lesson". She had drawn up plans on how it might work and everything! Yeah, jog on love.

lifeturnsonadime · 15/12/2021 08:56

Attendance Awards are horrendous even when there isn't a pandemic.

Discriminates against children with health conditions, disabilities and SEN.

Just a pat on the back for those children fortunate enough to be in good health and unattainable to those less fortunate than them.

peboh · 15/12/2021 09:03

I've never agreed with attendance awards, and I especially don't in the current situation.
My dd has additional needs (asd), and also some health things going on so when she's in school she'll be missing a fair amount of time for doctors appointments, and if she wasn't allowed to enjoy the rewards due to things out of her control I'll be fuming.
For me if this is the case in the school she goes to, I will just take her to wherever the reward is anyway, and give her a treat day of her own.
At the end of the day, children (primary anyway) don't miss school by their own choice, it's usually due to things out of their control like illnesses, appointments or relating to their additional needs or it's because the parents are choosing to keep them off for one reason or another. Punishing the children isn't going to change that.

Winniemarysarah · 15/12/2021 09:06

They ARE horrific for children who are genuinely ill, but when our school introduced prizes for attendance they’ve managed to maintain a much higher level of attendance. They do it for a reason. Aren’t there other prizes your dc could try and win? Not every child has a chance at every prize. My dd2 has no chance of winning the class points or reading prize this term as it’s all online and her iPad is broken, as is her brothers ipad and her sisters laptop, she’s not been able to do her homework and reading. Her dads got her an iPad for Xmas so she can have a go next term. Life just isn’t fair sometimes

HangingOutWithTheSandman · 15/12/2021 09:10

They were always ridiculous. People get ill, especially children. To encourage them to come to school when ill, which is what this award essentially does, is irresponsible. It’s also extremely unfair to children with ongoing health problems as they aren’t even in the ‘race’. It’s even more inappropriate than ever now with covid.

The same few kids used to ‘win’, those were the poor kids who had parents that sent them in no matter what. One of my kids used to say they deserved the award for having to put up with horrible parents. 😬

I’ve seen kids be sick on the way to school and still be sent in. I actually went into the school office and told them once and they just shrugged. By the next week, lots of kids were ill with a sick bug including mine. Why do they bother sending emails out saying don’t come in for 24 hours after last sickness if they don’t even try to enforce it?

It would be lovely if they rewarded effort and kindness more.

Being fair to my childrens secondary school, one of my kids had a very bad year of illness, then what was diagnosed as post viral fatigue. There used to be a few criteria to be able to attend the end of term treat day, something like 95% + attendance, a maximum of 2 detentions all year, no isolations, a good effort report from teachers. They actually let the attendance one go for my son which was lovely as it really wasn’t his fault, he’d never had a detention or isolation over the 4 years at the school (year 10), and was a good student. The head didn’t want to let it go, but one of his teachers spoke up for him. I shall always be grateful to her for that, she was also a really lovely and good teacher, the sort of teacher that you remember when you’re 40, good at their job but also see the children as individuals.

MsFrog · 15/12/2021 09:40

Ridiculous, and completely ignoring that is normal and expected to be ill at some point during an entire year and need time off, be it for physical of mental health reasons. An unattainable expectation to set up, and normalising the "push through at any cost" mentality a lot of adults end up with, to their own detriment. How many people feel guilty when they have to be off work when they are genuinely ill...? Ridiculous of the school.

chinateapot · 15/12/2021 09:45

Yup, always thought it was stupid.

Brought it home to me when I saw the photos of the party for 100% attendance on the school’s (private) FB page. While I was sat in hospital with my daughter having the biopsy that diagnosed her cancer. She will never get 100% attendance - but is up to 85% this term from a low of 6.2% a couple of years ago (and I was super proud of her for managing that!)

Life is indeed not fair - but for those kids who have significant illness / disability / other issues which prevent them attending school, it is already unfair enough. Why make it worse?

Fizbosshoes · 15/12/2021 09:48

I think attendance awards are shit at the best of times, and just ridiculous during covid times.

One year my DS got 100% attendance because he was "lucky" enough to be sick every school holidays but never in term time!Confused The next year he had 3 weeks off for recurring d and v bugs.

Neither of my DC have any serious medical issues but DD had orthodontic treatment over 3 years, every apt (hospital based) was during school time, and she also had some allergic reactions which we needed to check out before going to school. That's healthy kids with no medical issues.

Joblosspain · 15/12/2021 09:50

Discriminatory, encouraging attendance when ill.

Arrowheart · 15/12/2021 09:51

It is hugely unfair. Complain to the school. People can't help being ill and encouraging ill children to drag themselves to school for the chance to go on a trip is beyond ridiculous. All it will do is spread more illness. These things really aren't thought through at all.

Gooseberrypies · 15/12/2021 09:51

@Winniemarysarah

They ARE horrific for children who are genuinely ill, but when our school introduced prizes for attendance they’ve managed to maintain a much higher level of attendance. They do it for a reason. Aren’t there other prizes your dc could try and win? Not every child has a chance at every prize. My dd2 has no chance of winning the class points or reading prize this term as it’s all online and her iPad is broken, as is her brothers ipad and her sisters laptop, she’s not been able to do her homework and reading. Her dads got her an iPad for Xmas so she can have a go next term. Life just isn’t fair sometimes
Oh and that’s fine then is it? Who cares about screwing the genuine ones as long as a few fakers are punished? Not having a device - if you had such a low income that you couldn’t buy another then school would loan you one anyway, or you could buy it in credit if it was that important to you - is not the same as being ill or SEN. If people with disabilities can’t do something and are effectively punished and even humiliated in front of others because we need to make sure the people that could do it don’t push it either then that’s just tough because life isn’t fair?

I can only echo others in that it is completely ableist - DC attendance is below 80% because their regular hospital clinics for both their physical conditions and SEN are only on weekday mornings. They have to attend. It’s gutting for them to know they will never receive it. A trip to Alton Towers especially is horrible for a child to miss out on when it’s something they can’t control.

IAAP · 15/12/2021 09:52

I think these are going to fall foul of discrimination laws in years to come

HibiscusIsland · 15/12/2021 09:53

I think ofsted has been threatening schools recently that they'll be judged on attendance.

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