Get boosted...but still nothing for under 12s?

[Cutie101]

As a primary school teacher, AIBU to ask why on earth we still aren't vaccinating young children? My own child's year group has closed as almost half the year group have tested positive over over last week including a teacher (not omicron).
I have children hugging me, fingers up nose and all over everything all day every day, but still I am basically working in a petri dish. This is a disaster waiting to happen. This is crazy.

Yeah, let's pump chemicals into young kids for a virus which, for them, is no more dangerous than a cold. Because it will stop them passing it onto adults, who are already vaccinated. Oh no wait a minute, vaccinated people can still pass it on....Get a grip. If you're a reacher, you pick up bugs from the kids. Don't like it? Get another job.

I always find it strange when people say "if you don't like being at risk, leave your job", because if everyone did that, who'd teach their kids?

Maybe it was hoped enough over 12’s would take up the vaccine offer to avoid having to give it to younger children. Quash the spread etc. there have been instances of Covid in my primary age son’s class but he hasn’t caught it. Nits on the other hand are thriving! Thankfully he’s not caught those (yet).

@MabelsApron

I always find it strange when people say "if you don't like being at risk, leave your job", because if everyone did that, who'd teach their kids?

I think it’s more of a case of expecting teachers to get a grip, rather than leave their jobs.

It’s actually pretty concerning that the people teaching the next generation seem to have such a poor grasp of critical thinking and the evaluation of evidence.

Teachers are, by definition, of working age, and therefore in an age bracket where the CFR of covid is 0.15%.

There is simply no justification for this kind of hysteria, it must be clear why people are losing patience with teachers?

Those who will not 'have a child vaccinated for others benefit', a genuine question:

Did you also refuse to have your child vaccinated for rubella?

When I was a child, we all routinely caught rubella, it was called 'german measles'. Its not harmful to children (its usually milder than chickenpox) but can have long lasting effects for adult women and devastating effects for developing fetuses.

Sorry, we didn't all routinely get it (like chickenpox) but it was commonplace.

@TremoloGreen

Those who will not 'have a child vaccinated for others benefit', a genuine question:

Did you also refuse to have your child vaccinated for rubella?

When I was a child, we all routinely caught rubella, it was called 'german measles'. Its not harmful to children (its usually milder than chickenpox) but can have long lasting effects for adult women and devastating effects for developing fetuses.

The risk to the child from Rubella (and Polio, measles diphtheria etc) far outweighs the risk of the vaccine, so yes, the cost benefit analysis for the child themselves stacks up and my DC had all of them.

The fact that there were also benefits to others was a nice bonus.

My DC were born in the pre-meningitis vaccine era, but given what an awful disease it is, I would absolutely have given it to them too, even as a brand new, straight out of phase 1 trials vaccine. Although there is (I believe still now) incomplete long term data in its safety, I can’t envision a vaccine that would ever be as much of a threat to a child as the meningitis itself, so the cost/benefit would still stack up for me.

The point is, whatever logical gymnastics you do, there is simply no clinical benefit to a child from having a covid vaccine, so there is no justification to take the risk.

"And so it begins. All the “it’ll be a choice”! “Just give parents the choice!” people soon display their true coercive colours. My main concern is that it won’t be a true choice because people like you will get their way and access to society will become contingent on vaccination for even the youngest children. I would fully support other people who assess the risk/benefit decision around vaccination differently vaccinating their 5 year olds, but not if there’s a chance it’s going the way you want it to - if it’s not a real choice then none of them should have it (bar medical exceptions)."

Yes, precisely what I have been thinking, you can almost set your clock by how predictable it all is.. 😔

"And so it begins. All the “it’ll be a choice”! “Just give parents the choice!” people soon display their true coercive colours. My main concern is that it won’t be a true choice because people like you will get their way and access to society will become contingent on vaccination for even the youngest children. I would fully support other people who assess the risk/benefit decision around vaccination differently vaccinating their 5 year olds, but not if there’s a chance it’s going the way you want it to - if it’s not a real choice then none of them should have it (bar medical exceptions)."

Yes, precisely what I have been thinking, you can almost set your clock by how predictable it all is.. 😔

I think you will be in for a shock op as when they do bring it in there will be a very low uptake.