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Husband's friend being difficult with everyone

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MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 10:33

My husband has a (male) friend who is usually lovely most of the time, I get on well with him as do the kids and our wider friendship group. This friend is also very obese, probably 32-34 stone and this causes them multiple difficulties (causing knee damage, they get out of breath even walking on flat ground, they have to buy two seats on an aeroplane, won't get in some people's cars as they say they are too small, has to be picky about which chairs they sit on in bars and restaurants, etc.).

Next October one of my husbands friends is getting married abroad, some of the friends are going for a week or more to make it a full holiday, my husband, this friend and a few others are going to fly out the day before the wedding and fly back the day after. We were all talking about the trip and the large friend was saying that they would like to go for longer, but didn't think they would cope with the heat (38-40c) because of their size, they were also going to struggle on the plane because of their size, as well as doing things out there and they would like to try and lose weight before they go (for balance five years ago they went from 25 stone down to 12 stone in less than twelve months by following a medically controlled diet. They stayed at 12-13 stone until November last year then went all the way up to 32+ stone between the end of last year and now, so they can lose weight when they want to). My husband said "Well if you want to then go for it", the large friend then got really angry, accusing my husband of calling him fat, when another friend pointed out that all he had done was agree with the large friend he had a go at them as well, went silent for two minutes, then started saying "When are we going to order lunch", "Why are we waiting so long to order lunch" and other similar comments, when we all ordered he ordered two main meals and a side.

After we were home I asked my husband and he said this is a regular pattern of behaviour, the friend will complain about his weight, express a desire to lose weight. If my husband or another friend agrees then the large friend will verbally attack them, if they disagree he will verbally attack them, if they make no comment or change the subject he will verbally attack them. The large friend is normally a lovely man and this behaviour is driving a wedge between him and my husband and other friends. They have all tried in various ways to say that they are there and supportive, they never bring up his weight and will only comment if the large friend brings it up, and only in a supportive way.

I guess I am just looking for ways that they could potentially find a way to not make this an issue and help the large friend see that no one is saying anything unless he brings it up and are then only being supportive, so it should not drive a wedge between them all.

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Cheerbear24 · 06/12/2021 10:38

I’d be tempted just to say something very non commital such as ‘if you say so’ or ‘as you like’. Or even ‘I’m not going to comment as I see to upset you whatever I say’.

DeeCeeCherry · 06/12/2021 10:47

Perhaps he is lacking confidence/is worried due to his weight and size so is lashing out at everybody.

But why are you all pandering to this guy anyway? Someone needs to man up tell him its not all about him and can he just not spoil occasions please.

Youve mentioned his weight and thats usually analysed to death on MN so maybe he'll be given a pass but its still not anyone's role to put up with rubbish behaviour from him.

Just tell him to stop

MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 10:56

We all know he is not happy about his weight, but also that there has to be wider reasons as one does not become 30+ stone whilst being in a good place mentally.

We are trying to be nice to him, he is most of the time a lovely friend to everyone in the wider group. I know that several of his long term friends, including my husband have said to him that his behaviour of verbally attacking people is not acceptable, but he then sulks, they did it once on a night out when he had shouted at someone because they agreed when he said he needed to lose weight and he ordered a taxi and went home. He has been told to stop, but that does not help and does not improve the situation. In respect to most things I would normally say he needs to sort his shit out, but apart from this one area he is such a lovely man and I don't think it should be something that should destroy a 20+ year friendship.

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DeeCeeCherry · 06/12/2021 11:04

Unless you or other friends are qualified counsellors/MH specialists AND he agrees to be counselled by you then I cant see what you can do in terms of exploring wider reasons as to why he's become overweight.

Its up to him.

Just be there for him as friends then if you say hes a nice guy, and deal with occasional outbursts at the time as and when they arise.

ShinyHappyPoster · 06/12/2021 11:07

I think YABU only because this is your DH's friend and it's for your DH to deal with it. Putting yourself in the middle of it, won't benefit anyone. It's up to your DH to decide whether or not the friend's behaviour is acceptable or if the good times are worth it. Lots of people have uneven temperaments. Lots of people struggle with addiction or overeating.
Rather than agreeing or disagreeing with the friend when he mentions his weight, your DH could try raising it when they are all calm and his weight isn't the topic of conversation eg say 'I noticed that you became upset/angry last night, how would you like me to support you in conversations like that because we're friends and I want to help.'

SW1amp · 06/12/2021 11:15

No one gets to 30+ stone without some serious issues and MH problems, so I don't think you should see his behaviour as rationale or anything that will improve or change with a reasoned conversation.

All you can do is disengage until he wants to sort himself out again, but I doubt you'll be able to get through to him in his current state of mind

BoredZelda · 06/12/2021 11:32

Why does this have anything to do with you?

JackieCollinshasnoauthority · 06/12/2021 11:44

@BoredZelda

Why does this have anything to do with you?
Well indeed.
RoastPotatoQueen · 06/12/2021 11:47

Just say "if you say so Mate" and change the subject.
Personally though, I'd have to say he's the one bringing it up and whatever is said he gets insulted by so he needs to either do something about it or stop going on as it's causing a wedge in the friendship with his bizarre behaviour.

Fatgalslim · 06/12/2021 11:53

@BoredZelda

Why does this have anything to do with you?
Because it's her husband's friend and presumably OP and her husband talk?
MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 12:02

@DeeCeeCherry

Unless you or other friends are qualified counsellors/MH specialists AND he agrees to be counselled by you then I cant see what you can do in terms of exploring wider reasons as to why he's become overweight.

Its up to him.

Just be there for him as friends then if you say hes a nice guy, and deal with occasional outbursts at the time as and when they arise.

None of us are counsellors, nor are we trying to be, we are just looking for a way to better manage a difficult situation.
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MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 12:06

@ShinyHappyPoster

I think YABU only because this is your DH's friend and it's for your DH to deal with it. Putting yourself in the middle of it, won't benefit anyone. It's up to your DH to decide whether or not the friend's behaviour is acceptable or if the good times are worth it. Lots of people have uneven temperaments. Lots of people struggle with addiction or overeating. Rather than agreeing or disagreeing with the friend when he mentions his weight, your DH could try raising it when they are all calm and his weight isn't the topic of conversation eg say 'I noticed that you became upset/angry last night, how would you like me to support you in conversations like that because we're friends and I want to help.'
My husband asked if I had any ideas of what to do, I said I didn't but might pop it on here for ideas, which he was fine with.

I am not trying to put myself in the middle, but my husband is somewhat bothered by one of his oldest friends being difficult with him and the wider group. Some of them have tried saying that they don't want to talk about it, because he gets funny with them, they have tried to have a calm rational conversation but the friend always gets angry, none of them will even say anything unless the friend brings it up, but then regardless of their response (positive, supportive, changing the subject etc.) at that point they end up being verbally attacked for mentioning/bringing up weight, even though they were not the one who brought it up.

I guess it may well be one of those lose/lose situations, whatever they say or don't say they can't win.

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Vapeyvapevape · 06/12/2021 12:13

I think I’d have a frank discussion with the friend , tell them you’re happy to support him in whatever he chooses to do but if he keeps biting peoples heads off then he will be called out on it and if he chooses to go home or sulk then he’s in danger of losing friends.

drpet49 · 06/12/2021 12:13

@BoredZelda bore off already.

KatherineJaneway · 06/12/2021 12:18

I was friends with someone like this. It is a hard situation as they raise the subject but whatever your answer is, it is wrong. My friend used to sulk and not talk to us for a few weeks. When one of us checked in with her, she'd deny she was not talking to us and then acted like normal.

I'd find some generic non-committal phrases like 'we'll support you as always' to use, any verbal indication you give that appears to support him losing weight will (clearly) not go down well.

Thehop · 06/12/2021 12:19

Every time he brings it up they say “bill were not commenting because no matter what we say you have a go at us. Right, let’s order”

SW1amp · 06/12/2021 12:57

@Thehop

Every time he brings it up they say “bill were not commenting because no matter what we say you have a go at us. Right, let’s order”
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