What if everyone in the world isolated for the same three weeks....

[Rissole]

.....or whatever time period was deemed appropriate. Wouldn't that rid us of Covid once and for all as it would die out?

All we would have to do is get enough food in for the time period and stay in. A collective whole world self isolation. Job done!

If King Canute had got down to the beach as soon as the tide started coming in, he probably wouldn't have got wet at all.

"even with if you could control covid with the measures you are suggesting they would need to be permanent at which point the cure is really worse than the disease."

I remember the first year of Covid, where we were shutting schools, having half-hearted lockdowns without proper support for people, I didn't see relatives for that entire first year (and our family suffered losses during that, like so many others).

Meanwhile in New Zealand, because of their much stronger, targeted lockdowns, they managed to live as normal (apart from with a lot of security at the border) for over a year.

If we get numbers down then we can be freer. NHS staff can get more rest, and they can catch up with 'normal' operations that haven't been doable because of the ICUs being so full, and with staff being ill, etc.

I just want to live more normally. This myth that we have to 'live with it' is not sustainable. We're burning out here. We need a breather from the virus - and the only way to achieve that is to actively fight it and get down the risk.

But New Zealand just spent over 3 months in lockdown and it’s not now pursuing zero covid anyway.

@Comedycook no but I think less people would be dead. Esp if wed locked down at the end of last October to give us a chance to get vaccinations underway.

@Nacknick

How we about we just vaccinate the whole world instead? How quickly could that be done with a concerted effort do you think?

^ THAT.

Instead the rich countries are moving quickly to boost their own populations as fast as possible. Poor world can just catch covid freely & breed new variants since most their populations are unvacc'd. That's a very clever strategy, right?

Bless you OP

@Rissole

I'm not saying it wouldn't take some massive organising

I nominate Boris to coordinate it all. He has done such a great job in the UK🤣🤣

Meanwhile in New Zealand, because of their much stronger, targeted lockdowns, they managed to live as normal (apart from with a lot of security at the border) for over a year.

They only managed that because ...

Seeded cases there were much lower when lockdowns became normalised in the western world, making their initial job much easier than any European nation.

Draconian border restrictions, the likes of which the U.K. simply couldn't enforce.

And even at that Auckland spent a very significant amount of time in strict lockdown conditions, which did not ultimately manage to eliminate cases.

They are now not pursuing a zero covid strategy (despite having the optimal possible conditions to do so) because they know it's pointless.

Can you imagine the mayhem in the supermarkets if you told people they had to stock up for three weeks?

new Zealand care homes have super strict rules about visiting, new residents, PPE use, etc. It's not the old normal at all.

In theory probably. If the whole world isolated completely for 3 weeks and properly cleaned all surfaces etc then the virus would die out.

Practically - no chance. Not just for all the things that need to stay open for survival and things like hospitals and care homes etc. A lot of people wouldn’t stick to the rules and meet other people anyway. So realistically it would never work.

They could do it for nits. Get everyone in the world to do nit treatment regularly for 3 weeks and kill the bastards dead. Coronavirus, not so much.

Apart from nurses, doctors, carers, electricity/gas etc workers, fire service, ambulance staff etc etc. Lovely idea in principle, we couldn't even get the residents of this country to stick to it though so no hope of a global coordination happening

@Tessabelle1

Apart from nurses, doctors, carers, electricity/gas etc workers, fire service, ambulance staff etc etc. Lovely idea in principle, we couldn't even get the residents of this country to stick to it though so no hope of a global coordination happening

Yeah, the absolute selfish idiots who live in conditions like this, far too selfish to just stay the fuck at home for 3 weeks 🙄

@Rissole

OK so what if, just so we could be rid of it sooner, those that work in hospitals and the National Grid etc. stayed at work. No pain no gain sort of thing.

There are always going to be exceptions but this is an exceptional situation.

I would be happy to stay at my place of work for three weeks wearing full on PPE in case an emergency came in that HAD to be dealt with.

With LFT's and vaccinations and now drugs that stop it fully developing, I think something akin to a world wide lockdown at the same time would work to a degree.

It isn't an exceptional situation, though. It's a virus, like all other viruses, doing what viruses do.

I take it you enjoyed being locked down, and were fortunate enough not to be bankrupted by it.

This is such an unbelievably childish idea. It’s actually offensive, showing zero idea of what so many people’s lives are like. Such a middle class pandemic, wfh, in a nice house with nice garden. Fucks sake, no clue about some people’s lives in this country let alone developing countries. And this virus has animal reservoirs so good luck locking every animal on the planet down.

Bloody hell the lack of understanding of how wider society (just in the westernised world alone) functions is astonishing, let alone the impact of those in poorer countries.

Medical care does not just happen in hospitals it happenings in the community too, birthing and dying will not stop for a lockdown.

Plus the multiple hundreds of different aspects of our society that we need to function water treatment personnel, electricity, gas, telecoms the list if not endless is very long

The suggestion displays some fairly simplistic thinking!

IF it were possible, yes it would work. It is not, for all of the reasons that have been listed above. Essential workers, especially. They cannot isolate. Although, in the case of health care workers, some could stay at their jobs for the full three weeks if sleeping arrangements could be made...but my GOD, the overtime!

Interesting how most responses are finding reasons why it wouldn't work versus solutions to make this work...

Prob is we have not tried to kill the virus. If we'd done that we might be in a different position now. What we need is operators of enclosed spaces - shops etc - deploying technology to clean the air.
Still I hear there remain idiots with mild Covid still going out etc putting us all at risk cos they're selfish!

@Dibbydoos

Interesting how most responses are finding reasons why it wouldn't work versus solutions to make this work...

Prob is we have not tried to kill the virus. If we'd done that we might be in a different position now. What we need is operators of enclosed spaces - shops etc - deploying technology to clean the air.
Still I hear there remain idiots with mild Covid still going out etc putting us all at risk cos they're selfish!

No one is ‘finding’ reasons. Those reasons exist, you don’t have to look for them. Tell me again how these people could isolate in their ‘houses’ for 3 weeks (which wouldn’t be enough by the way, as it can take 8 weeks just to get through one family)

Still I hear there remain idiots with mild Covid still going out etc putting us all at risk cos they're selfish!

Who?

@VikingOnTheFridge

I suppose that's one option xenobitch, if the selfish sods will insist on dying.

😂😂😂😂 This thread has to be wind up! Surely the OP cannot be this thick!

@Duckrace

You tell me, *@VikingOnTheFridge* , you clearly have all the answers, if you can manage it without being passive aggressive.

*@VikingOnTheFridge doesn't claim to have all the answer. She just points out the obvious, that this ludicrous suggestion is definitely not* the answer.

@Dibbydoos

Interesting how most responses are finding reasons why it wouldn't work versus solutions to make this work...

Prob is we have not tried to kill the virus. If we'd done that we might be in a different position now. What we need is operators of enclosed spaces - shops etc - deploying technology to clean the air.
Still I hear there remain idiots with mild Covid still going out etc putting us all at risk cos they're selfish!

Because there aren't any solutions to make this work, what with it being completely unworkable. If yours involves a time machine that's probably why most people aren't advocating for it...

Or these people, @Dibbydoos?
(It’s the Calais refugee camp).